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Posted 7/14/14
Being from the USA, I'm 100% in favor of anyone owned by England telling that shriveled old hag to shove it up her arse.
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Posted 7/14/14
I think the whole thing has been rushed. As it is, nobody knows what kind of terms independence will be on, so nobody can make a truly informed decision. The real question that should be asked in September is if negotiations should take place on Scottish independence at all. Then, after they have taken place, the Scottish people should be able to vote on whether they agree to the terms.



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As a Welshman, I'm rooting for the Scots to vote for independence because that increases the chance Welsh independence will get a shot (lots of people actually say in polls that they would vote for independence if Scotland was independent, but wouldn't as things are now), and we'll be able to have the best flag in the world be a proper national flag that actually matters internationally, and the same for the best national anthem in the world.


It is my firm belief that the Welsh flag should be adopted as a replacement of the current flag, or at least incorporated into it. I know a lot of Welsh people who are really ticked off about the Union Flag
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Posted 7/14/14 , edited 7/14/14
The UK is carrying on as if there is nothing happening.

http://m.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-28276525

You can almost call it denial. Even Wales get's a space launch site. Big ideas coming from the capital with no input from your "subjects". We are going through something similar in the U.S. which is why I'm sympathetic of the Scottish side.
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Posted 7/16/14
Dear Scotland do stay, in Canada the province of Quebec has been threatening to do this for forty years. They've managed to ring all manner of concessions,exemptions, and every kind of special treatment from the rest of Canada. So Scotland stay, just keep the threat it makes wonderful leverage.
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Posted 7/20/14
I'm lucky to have the right to vote in the referendum and I am likely to vote no. I just don't think it will be good for Scotland economically.
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Posted 8/20/14
Roughly a month to go. How's the mood there in the UK?
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Posted 9/17/14 , edited 9/17/14
It's the eve of the big vote... Good luck Scots.
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20 / M / Cardiff,Wales
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Posted 9/17/14
Their vote to go independent hinges on arbitrary fairy tails that they are coming up with in their sleep, the EU will not want them and neither will the UK after they go independent. Scotland seems to be forgetting the rich history they shared with the English, Welsh and Irish but oh well, got to let kids be kids.
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Posted 9/18/14 , edited 9/18/14
Voted no this morning. Only thing anyone was talking about at school today.

Most of the reasons given to vote yes are just people saying how much Westminster sucks and how everyone in England is ripping people off. Loads of people in England get bad deals too. The way the Yes campain talks, it is like if you don't vote Yes you are not really Scottish.

I don't like the British goverment that much, I'm also Northern Irish so I know how much they can mess up a country. But I also know that not everything done in Ireland by Britain was bad, and not everything done by the nationalists was good. These things are never black and white.

I don't think running away from a government you dislike, (unless they are super oppresive), is the best idea. Scottish nationalists talk about all this bad stuff "England" or Westminister do to them, things they, for the most part, did not care about half a year ago. Not everyone in Westminister is bad, I am sure many of them are upstanding people who want the best for Scotland. Yes, they are not perfect, but name me a country who's goverment is. Going independant will not change that, all it does is trade away many benefits the UK offers.

The SNP offers Scandinavian levels of success with American taxes. Yes, they have oil, but even with oil, people Norway have a very expensive lifestyle. It's one thing to claim to be able to do that. It's another to think it's possible without raising taxes.

A non-perfect government and uneven distrubution of wealth are part of every country in the world. It is ridiculous to use these as arguments to leave the 8th richest country in the world.

If Scotland becomes independant, I highly doubt it will turn out well. They will be forced to raise taxes, they will not get into the EU easily (Spain will veto them, France, Italy and Belgium may also not want that as people from their countries are also looking to go independant.)
Their military will take a huge hit. You could argue that Scotland will not get attacked, but that also means they will not be able to join NATO or help other countries in need of aid.

A non-perfect government is inevitable, a bad economic and political decision is not.
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Posted 9/18/14 , edited 9/18/14
I wonder what's going to happen. Will they keep the Queen as their head of state?
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Posted 9/18/14

HuastecoOtaku wrote:

I wonder what's going to happen. Will they keep the Queen as their head of state?


As a symbolic gesture perhaps. Like in Jamaica.
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Posted 9/18/14
The people have decided to stay.
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Posted 9/19/14
Well they have the promises made by Westminster so it's not a total failure. Doubtful Scots will be given any new powers though.
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Posted 9/19/14
There's no way Westminster will get away with not handing out more powers.
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