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Why don't people understand that opinion =/= fact?
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I was browsing YouTube earlier when I came across some lengthy chain comments on videos where people were arguing on which bands suck or don't suck.This isn't anything new for YouTube, but it made me wonder...

Why can't people understand the concept of "taste" or "preference"? Why must it always be "I know better. Everything I like is superior. Anything I don't like is terrible."

It's not a rare thought process to have when you're a kid. But as an adult? I don't know, I guess as a musician I've learned that when it comes to music or similar arts nothing is really bad. It's all opinion-based. I either like it or it's not for me. Justifying it by saying "it sucks" just seems incredibly close-minded to me.

That's just my feeling lol
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Posted 6/28/14
most people I come across on youtube and other places tend to be morons who haven't got their own chain of thought.
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Posted 6/28/14 , edited 6/28/14


Youtube is representative of humanity as a whole, apparently.
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Posted 6/28/14
Trolls roam freely not just on YouTube but the internet overall.
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Posted 6/28/14 , edited 6/28/14
trollintrollintrollin=youtube
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I hate publishers...I dislike how variation in music is becoming a rarity, what I mean by this isn't genre, phrasing, or lyrics but a lack of range... equalization and optimization for crappy car speakers and $5 ear-buds ruins lots of great music. Even if you buy the music you end up with an edited and compressed mess that gets exposed on half decent monitors.

To argue about taste in bands though... that's just silly.
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Posted 6/28/14

Phersu wrote:

Youtube is representative of humanity as a whole, apparently.


Sometimes I wonder.
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Posted 6/28/14
Think of it this way-
the people that are self conscious of this fact
(you)
are all Hachiman.
The people that don't have the ability to comprehend opinion =/= fact
(them)
are all people enjoying their youth.
The people that know this, yet still partake in such arguments
(God only knows)
are all Hayato and Yui.


The hardest thing for people to do is change,
that's why change is the one thing people hate.
Anything beyond what they're used to requires change.
Therefore,
any opinion besides their own is something to hate.
No matter how stupid it is.
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Posted 6/28/14
A lot of them recognise what they're saying is their opinion, they just don't say 'in my opinion' and they shouldn't really have to since, when it comes to taste, everything you say will be opinion by default, anyway. Though a lot of the time it just plays into the concept of 'I can't understand why they hate something I love. They need to like it as well to make me personally feel more content' and vice versa. Granted though, they could treat it more maturely, but then that's the internet in general, I find.
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most people in todays world are pretty ignorant and unintelligent so its no surprise they think Opinions are facts.
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It's not so much that people think that it's fact. They know they are voicing an opinion and can back it up with random bits of information. When it comes time for them to c=trade places and listen to someone else has opinion they listen with the intend to respond, not to understand. That's the world we live in the majority of people lack empathy ^~^
Posted 6/28/14
Shut up You're wrong.
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My brother and I were talking about this earlier. We asked the question:
Why do people argue and get angry when someone insults something they enjoy?

We came to the conclusion that by insulting something you like, they're indirectly insulting you. They're suggesting that you have bad taste, that your thoughts are invalid, that you're ignorant, etc. And then you feel the urge to defend not the show, music, or whatever, but yourself. The argument quickly changes from, "No, that show is actually awesome, and here's why," to, "No, I do know what I'm talking about here, I do have good taste, I'm not stupid for liking this thing, and here's why YOU'RE wrong!"

In our minds, it does become a matter of right and wrong, and that's true for everything from morals, to opinions, to even laws. We come up with clear criteria for why something is good or bad. In the case of entertainment: "They suck at playing their instruments live (yet beloved pop stars all over the world can't play a thing.)" "Their singing is altered by computers (yet people like Vocaloids)." "The humour is just goofy and stupid (yet thousands laugh out loud watching it)."
And so on...
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Posted 6/28/14

Phersu wrote:



Youtube is representative of humanity as a whole, apparently.


I'd love to see this quote on where I said YouTube represents humanity as a whole. I'll be waiting.

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NekobasuRider wrote:

My brother and I were talking about this earlier. We asked the question:
Why do people argue and get angry when someone insults something they enjoy?

We came to the conclusion that by insulting something you like, they're indirectly insulting you. They're suggesting that you have bad taste, that your thoughts are invalid, that you're ignorant, etc. And then you feel the urge to defend not the show, music, or whatever, but yourself. The argument quickly changes from, "No, that show is actually awesome, and here's why," to, "No, I do know what I'm talking about here, I do have good taste, I'm not stupid for liking this thing, and here's why YOU'RE wrong!"

In our minds, it does become a matter of right and wrong, and that's true for everything from morals, to opinions, to even laws. We come up with clear criteria for why something is good or bad. In the case of entertainment: "They suck at playing their instruments live (yet beloved pop stars all over the world can't play a thing.)" "Their singing is altered by computers (yet people like Vocaloids)." "The humour is just goofy and stupid (yet thousands laugh out loud watching it)."
And so on...


That makes a lot of sense.

I have no problem discussing things I don't like with others. But when it becomes a pissing-match with...

"This show sucks! You're an idiot!"

or my favorite

"You have horrible taste in music!"

It's kinda like arguing over why the color red is better than blue. If you wanna debate on why you think red is better, that's cool. But when you start enforcing your ideals and opinions on others as if it's concrete fact, then that's what bothers me.
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