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Should Authors/Writers incorporate a few or more Ethnic groups (Other than Asians) when making Characters for their Anim
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Posted 7/1/14
Well I've never really found it strange that anime didn't incorporate a lot of different races into there shows for several reasons. To start off we will examine the anatomy of the average anime character. Large eyes, detailed hair and facial expressions and usually originally drawn in manga. Anime characters that are of different nationalities than Japanese, primarily have specific distinctive characteristics about their art style.

Here are a few examples- (Main Characters)
Tsuritama - Akira Agarkar Yamada: He is indian has a lungee style turban and always carries a duck around.
Afro Samurai - Afro: He is black and has a very original art style in comparison to most anime I have witnessed.
Kiniro Mosiac - Alice Cartelet and Karen Kujou both have very stereotypical western beauty aspects to them. Blonde hair, blue eyes with different fashion senses.
Cowboy Bebop - Every many character isn't Japanese and consists of quite a few different nationalities.
Kuroshitsuji - All the characters are British
Ikoku Meiro no Croisee - The characters are French
Darker Than Black - Hei is Chinese though you probably couldn't tell right off the bat. Unless you know a little Chinese and said, "Hey! Hei means black in Chinese

But I think the drawing style for most manga just makes it less appealing to authors to draw darker skinned characters. I'm not sure if this is true or not, but it's just an assumption of mine. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
Posted 7/1/14
moved to polls.
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I personally, would love to see more people of color in anime....and not only as the villain. I'm black and I'm perfectly fine with there not being black people in the anime...it just seems like the only time I see them....are when they are like nasttyyy horriblleee characters...sucks man
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Yeah i agree. Didnt want it to come off as a form of "fanservice.' My bad.
Posted 7/2/14
I don't really care if they're all white, or all Asians or all black. or a mixture.

I find it funny how people complain about anime characters looking like western people instead of looking like Japanese, but then when an anime comes out with characters that look like actual Japanese... they don't like it... lol... (Flowers of Evil).
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Posted 7/2/14

GayAsianBoy wrote:

I don't really care if they're all white, or all Asians or all black. or a mixture.

I find it funny how people complain about anime characters looking like western people instead of looking like Japanese, but then when an anime comes out with characters that look like actual Japanese... they don't like it... lol... (Flowers of Evil).


I never once mentioned/complained about how "anime characters looking like western people instead of looking like Japanese." That's not what this thread is about.

Im simply asking why aren't there more diversity in Manga/Anime? if integrating different ethnicity's in Anime is possible, and how could we make this actually happen ?

Whether you Like or dislike the idea is your own opinion.
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Posted 7/2/14

Lesles92 wrote:

I personally, would love to see more people of color in anime....and not only as the villain. I'm black and I'm perfectly fine with there not being black people in the anime...it just seems like the only time I see them....are when they are like nasttyyy horriblleee characters...sucks man
That's funny, I can't recall many black villains at all. Most I remember are protagonists, or side characters. The only one I recall off of the top of my head as a straight out villain is Kaname Tousen from Bleach, and in that show they had black protags as well such as Aikawa Rabu. Other than that I'm remembering people who are straight up good guys, or people who become protagonists during the course of the story. Such as Simon Breshnev, Dutch, Claudia LaSalle, Ben Johnson, Agil, etc
Posted 7/2/14

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GayAsianBoy wrote:

I don't really care if they're all white, or all Asians or all black. or a mixture.

I find it funny how people complain about anime characters looking like western people instead of looking like Japanese, but then when an anime comes out with characters that look like actual Japanese... they don't like it... lol... (Flowers of Evil).


I never once mentioned/complained about how "anime characters looking like western people instead of looking like Japanese." That's not what this thread is about.

Im simply asking why aren't there more diversity in Manga/Anime? if integrating different ethnicity's in Anime is possible, and how could we make this actually happen ?

Whether you Like or dislike the idea is your own opinion.



If I can recall correctly, "I don't care" is one of your poll option.

My second paragraph just provides further insight that is intertwined with my first sentence; it wasn't directed at you... or anybody. It was just a general observation I observed. General public is not here for mixed ethnicity stuff or non-westernised stuff.


So I've answered your question, it just wasn't expressed coherently I admit... but that doesn't mean I was talking unrelated random things.

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I say nothing should be forced upon the author. If the author feels the need for a character to be a certain ethnicity, then so be it. To imply authors are somehow doing something wrong by not incorporating more races is beyond foolish to the point that it sickens me. The story is the absolutely most important thing, and I can't think of a single valid reason why there should be more races involved unless it is plot essential, otherwise it would just act as a distraction from the story.
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Posted 7/2/14
There are two things I'd like to say about this.

First, media is generally a reflection of the culture it is produced in. Japan is a very homogenous, racist, and xenophobic culture. Have you not noticed that with very few exceptions, every time another ethnic group has appeared in anime it's as the kind of stereotype we in the US banished from our media long ago? There's a reason for that. White anglo/europeans are the most likely not to show up this way, but right this moment I'm having a hard time thinking of a single black character who isn't based on a stereotype (aside from Bleach's Yoruichi, who arguably isn't really human, and Nadia from Secret of Blue Water, who caused quite a stir in her day).

Second, I'm against adding a woman/man/kid/minority/whatever just "because diversity." It needs to make sense in context of the story. Considering how many animes are set in high school in ostensibly modern Japan or close to it, and the general ethnic makeup of Japan, it'd be a big story point for there to be even one white/black/brown/red dude in the mix.

Sure, for a lot of animes, it wouldn't make much of a difference (for example, a Gundam anime, or any anime not set in modern Japan). And in that case sure, go ahead, but I think you'd find the results disappointing (see point 1 again).
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Yes, but only if they were characters with their own personalities/identities, not "how many stereotypes can we attach to this character," which I've noticed seems to happen with alarming frequency.
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Posted 7/2/14
It would be nice but that won't happen as much as I want it too.

Well...there is always making your own manga. I just wish I could draw.
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The ethnic makeup of a story should reflect the setting. The population of Japan is just shy of 99% ethnic Japanese, so it makes sense that most of the time stories set in Japan won't have an ethnically diverse cast. After all, the proportion of Japan's population which is not ethnically Japanese, Chinese, or Korean is only 0.6%, or less than 1 in 100 people. Compare this to Germany, where people who are not ethnically German compose a full 19% of the population (or about 1 in 5 people). As for the United States...well...it depends on which part of the country you're writing about.



You'd also have to take into account what year your story is set in and whether you're writing a rural setting or an urban one. If you're writing an urban setting you'd have to take into account whether the city is major or minor, then ask yourself where in that city you're setting things (downtown, uptown, by the docks, in the business district, things like that). Then you'd have to look at elements like wealth distribution and employment distributions by ethnic group to get an idea of who would be where and what they'd be doing there. If you really wanted to fine tune your setting's ethnic composition you'd look into tourism data to see whether there ought to be sightseers, and if so then who they most generally ought to be. In the case of Japan's tourists that's people from China, the Republic of Korea, and Taiwan, so one would look into the demographic composition of each of those three for further insight.

In short, deciding what sort of ethnic composition a story's setting ought to have is largely a question of data. Lots, and lots, and lots of data.

With that in mind, while black people (as is the case with anyone who isn't ethnically Japanese) are very rare in Japan's population, that doesn't mean the transfer student, the foreign English conversation teacher, or whatever else the writer may choose to make the character of non-Japanese descent cannot be black even if their story is set in Japan. There's not really any particular reason they shouldn't be unless I missed something in the ethnic composition of foreign students accepted into Japanese schools, foreigners living and working in Japan, or anything else along those lines.
Posted 7/2/14
i really don't give a fuck.
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Posted 7/2/14
I don't notice race, or really care, but its the writers choice.
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