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Why would I pay 40$ for 4 episodes can someone help me
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Posted 7/3/14 , edited 7/3/14

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Is Aniplex just a shitty company that gets good licenses?




Don't get me started! What he said!

I can seriously spell out all the faults with that kill la kill aniplex release to you. From why the dub is bad, how they can fix it, why they don't, and why they don't give a fuck.

I'm so damn close to trying to start a aniplex boycott. I just don't think people buy from them right now. I know the only titles they tend to grab are more hardcore fans, ergo more likely to be on CR and have people willing to spend the cash...but by GOD its an inferior product. Why are we buying inferior products? WHY LET THEM GET AWAY WITH SELLING CRAP COR LOTS OF CASH?
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aniplex...

Durarara!
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Its worse in Japan so be happy with Aniplex prices.

Also it has subs in Spanish and English and also a dub. Its not that badly price.


Not only are marketing strategies in Japan different due to anime being a mainstream form of entertainment, but the country is also in a surplus. The products there are expensive due to inflation brought on by too much money in the economy.
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Don't get me started! What he said!

I can seriously spell out all the faults with that kill la kill aniplex release to you. From why the dub is bad, how they can fix it, why they don't, and why they don't give a fuck.

I'm so damn close to trying to start a aniplex boycott. I just don't think people buy from them right now. I know the only titles they tend to grab are more hardcore fans, ergo more likely to be on CR and have people willing to spend the cash...but by GOD its an inferior product. Why are we buying inferior products? WHY LET THEM GET AWAY WITH SELLING CRAP COR LOTS OF CASH?


I am with you there. I don't understand why people even buy their series. Yeah, they get some good series, but the prices sure are not worth it, ESPECIALLY with almost all their stuff on Crunchyroll and now Netflix, and I think that their business model is damaging to getting anime into the hands of Western fans for full ownership since it can set a precedent if people actually buy into that horrible business model.

I am half tempted to go into their panel during Otakon this year JUST so I can say something when they take questions. Of course, i am sure they will just talk in a round-about way like some dumb politician, so I am not even sure if it is even worth my time.
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I am with you there. I don't understand why people even buy their series. Yeah, they get some good series, but the prices sure are not worth it, ESPECIALLY with almost all their stuff on Crunchyroll and now Netflix, and I think that their business model is damaging to getting anime into the hands of Western fans for full ownership since it can set a precedent if people actually buy into that horrible business model.

I am half tempted to go into their panel during Otakon this year JUST so I can say something when they take questions. Of course, i am sure they will just talk in a round-about way like some dumb politician, so I am not even sure if it is even worth my time.


The why is obvious. They grab the critically superior titles with high fan loyalty, then produce a low budget dub knowing those who buy or won't watch the dub, and charge an absorbent price that such fans will buy.

Madoka Magica and Kill la Kill are two of the more absorbant. While you also have the likes of Katanagatari and Ruoruni Kenahin that are just poorly done. The few titles that do have good dubs were dubbed by another, usually defunct, studio and bought after the fact.

Meanwhile you have powerhouse Funimation buying casual licenses and selling to casual fans. Fairy Tail, One Piece, Attack on Titan. Prime pieces for run entertainment, being released at casual prices of 30 for 12 or 60 for 20+. Older titles they picked up are sold super cheap, such as Trigun for $15 all episodes, or FLCL also at $15(popularity made it 20-25) initially.

Then you have Sentai Film works who sell titles around the 40-60 marl themselves, but typically pick up far more niche or Japanese titles like Mysterious Girlfriend X or Clannad. They often do nothing to localize and dub directly, if they even dub at all. Keeping honorifics and name order, half out of lazy and half out of direct translation. A number of titles like Clannad went originally dubbed until fan interest provided a rerelease. Additionally, bare minimum cases and no details cuts down production costs. A very Spartan style of saving money.

Aniplex cuts down costs from hiring new voice actors and putting little effort into the dub. I'm willing to bet they focus having the more popular titles and spend more on licenses, but I have no proof. Knowing their buyers will buy, they overprice and focus on cool boxes and swag with the release. Might was well import the original at this cost.

I like buying my anime, but I like if cheap. I own Mysterious Girlfriend X, GTO, Fate/stay Night, Trigun, Gundam X, and Genshiken all because I spend sub $30 on them.



I got started ranting....
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Which dubs specifically are you talking about? The one's I've heard all sound fine, but that list only includes Blue Exorcist, SAO, and Durarara. Haven't heard the dub of Magi, Fate/Zero, or Madoka to say anything about those.
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the reasoning is simple: they sell at those prices because people will buy at those prices. if you don't like it, don't buy it.
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If you are willing to wait, they'll probably come out with a complete collection and it will eventually go on sale. Otherwise, you're stuck paying high prices.
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Aniplex sells at those prices because they have a select fan base that will pay at those prices. Me being one of them and buying Fate/Zero.
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If you are willing to wait, they'll probably come out with a complete collection and it will eventually go on sale. Otherwise, you're stuck paying high prices.


Considering Aniplex's track record on releases, there's no guarantee that will happen.
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I don't know who's paying those prices in the US. A casual anime fan wouldn't because that's a lot of money for 4 episodes. A hardcore collector wouldn't because they're experienced in finding better deals. Most people in between those points would be happy either streaming or picking up used discs on Amazon.

I guess people with more money than they know what to do with?
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is there any possibility of breaking out of the wizard?

I heard there was talk of wizards here.





Orga777 wrote:

That type of business strategy does NOT fly in the US. Bandai did this same idiotic thing, and they had freaking Gundam, and where are they now when it comes to US licensing? They aren't around any more and now they have a bunch of series stuck in limbo.

The difference is that Aniplex of America seems to be successful with their strategy thus far.

One change this time around is reverting to singles. It remains to see if that part of the strategy works.




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While I would prefer if their prices were cheaper, i still buy from them so I don't mind it. I own all of Monogatari, Fate/Zero, Madoka, Garden of Sinners, and will be buying Nisekoi when they release it.
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shuuouma wrote:

While I would prefer if their prices were cheaper, i still buy from them so I don't mind it. I own all of Monogatari, Fate/Zero, Madoka, Garden of Sinners, and will be buying Nisekoi when they release it.


Strange that you don't mention Persona 3 Movie, considering your avatar.

Personally I like their quality, I have the Bakemonogatari Bluray set, and I adore the quality animation and amazing commentary. (BL-uray anyone?) I also have the Persona 3 Premium, which contained a lot of stuff a hardcore fan wants. Of course I don't plan on buying many Aniplex releases, but the ones that interest me, I'll get if I feel it's worth it/have enough money.
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Posted 7/3/14 , edited 7/3/14
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2014-06-06/.75253

If you dont want to click on the link. Here's What Anwerman has to say Aka Justin Sevakis. His response is in the bold font


Matthew asks:
What is up with Aniplex's 4-episode-per-volume release of Kill la Kill? I though we had left that ridiculousness behind years ago?

and Brandi asks:

I know this is come up before but seriously who is buying those Aniplex releases? I know somebody must be or they still wouldn't be doing this (or would they?!) The new Kill la Kill DVDs are $40 for a single disk with 4 episodes on it. It is like we slipped back in time, and got an extra tax on top of it. The Persona 3 movie is listed at $75 dollars that that is just the regular edition! Meaning a person would have to spend $225 to get all three movies. What makes this work for Aniplex but didn't for the Bandai Honneamise label?


Sheesh. Aniplex is obviously doing this because it works. Madoka Magica was released the same way at the same price, and it sold like hotcakes. Now, Kill la Kill is getting the same treatment. It would be nice if Aniplex released them at a cheaper price, but they did the math, and determined it makes more sense for them to do it this way, by making more money selling fewer discs to customers that can afford it. Fans can get upset all they want, but their opinion doesn't really matter.

I'm sure lower-priced releases are coming from All The Anime in the UK, and Madman Entertainment in Australia, so if you're so inclined, there's nothing stopping you from importing those. You can usually play discs from other regions on a computer with the freeware app VLC (Win/Mac/Linux) without being impeded by region codes. DVD43 is also a Windows solution that lets you play discs in any DVD player app without impediment. Similar tools exist for Blu-ray as well, but they're commercial ripping programs of questionable legality, so I won't mention them here.

Aniplex is doing a few things much smarter than Bandai Visual USA/Honneamise did. First, they're keeping their expectations in check. They're releasing hot, new shows that people want now, whereas BVUSA concentrated on older, "classic" titles that wouldn't have sold THAT many copies -- and then expected them to move 20,000 units or so at super high prices. Second, they're doing this in 2014, when DVD and Blu-ray is much more about collectors instead of simply being the mass-market way everyone watches stuff. That's a big difference.

This method of release is successful for Aniplex. It's not going away. You can complain about it all you want, but you're just shouting into the wind.
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