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Shonen Protagonists really annoy me
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[rant]They just do, don't get me wrong I love shounen anime, but most of the main characters drive me insane. I know it's fiction, and all that, but they all seem to live in this magical world where there are no consequences for their actions, and the few consequences they do experience are overturned or aren't relevant. In any given situation in a shounen anime, everyone else is giving perfectly reasonable alternatives, reasons, ideas, about subject x, but they all get shot down, because the protagonist believes in the hart of the cards, power of magic, power of love friendship, etc. It's annoying to watch all the reasonable and intelligent people made to look stupid, so captain idiot can keep is infantile life philosophy[/rant]
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Give me an example of a shounen protagonist that annoyed you.
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Try Hunter X Hunter and Gintama.

Hunter X Hunter, flips the shounen genre on its head. Their is a consequence for every single action and good and evil isn't always black and white .

Without giving away any spoilers. The chimera ant arc, is one of my favorite arc's in anime history. It made me really consider the human condition and if the protagonists are really doing the right thing.

Gintama is also really good because Gintoki, isn't your normal overpowered main character who fights enemies unscathed. Hes a normal man, a samurai who struggles through each encounter.

Hunter x hunter has alot of the normal friendship themes, but its mostly between the two main characters, Killua and Gon. The two of them have such deep back stories that it makes the basic Friendship between them turn into a beautiful developing point in the story that you will enjoy.

Also, intellect plays a large part in HxH. No one is safe from death in the series, anyone can die at any moment. The characters carefully plan out each attack and strategy, as they know, a single slip up can mean their death. Even the strongest character, who might be a bit lazy in the fight, can get killed by the weakest character who tries his hardest.
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Naruto
Goku
All of the Yugioh protagonists except Yuusei
Ichigo
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So I hate naruto and ichigo
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_kallen_6 wrote:

So I hate naruto and ichigo


Same. Toriko is also up there.
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HAters gonna hate :P

But I understand why some people will hate them. Getting stupid power-ups every time they're in a pinch.
Fairy Tail is the best example of that. Natsu barelly trains to get his power-ups.
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Shounens story lines:

"X" gets his ass beaten up and achieves powers from nowhere. Animes that apply to this: Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail.
"X" gets his ass beaten up and decides to undergo special training from nowhere. Animes that apply to this: Bleach, Naruto.
"X" always wins. Animes that apply to this: all listed above.

The only Shounen I can think of that does not totally apply to this is probably Hunter X Hunter. As someone already said, it's a very smart anime. Main characters do undergo obvious trainings and they do become empowered at some point, but it's mindblowing how often they lose. During the last arc in the anime you just don't expect that sort of ending and chances are that most of the Hunter X Hunter readers/watchers have considered the ants being on the right side for a while. That cell-looking King eventually becomes really polite and logical and a lot more close to being a Human rather than a weird creature.
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I certainly see your point, alot of Shonen-heroes has no concept of consequences or common sense.
Their is a few more grounded ones though, watch Hunte X Hunter as Azazel suggested and another good example is Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood. In FMA their actions often has dire consequences and the cast often doubt themselves.
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i swear to god if onoda freaks out at nothing one more time...
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I love it when this happens. Somebody complains about X and then all anyone responds with is "Go watch [insert favourite series here]"

Seriously though, HxH is awesome. Gon loses fights, receives serious injuries on more than one occasion, and practically half the series is him training for an upcoming, life threatening fight which requires careful planning.
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What do people have against Jackie Chan anyways?
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You could also say that this is part of their charm, when done right that is. Done wrong this is a bad flaw.


But the theme of freedom is a huge part of One Piece, more subtle than the whole friendship thing.
The idea that Goku, Luffy, and Naruto do what they want regardless of their surroundings also makes them likable characters. Fairy Tail takes this and runs with it themselves to hell and back.

Characters who take responsibility are nice and fine, but sometimes rules are stupid, self serving, or simply against us.

Bleach had the famous soul society arc. Rukia is going to be executed for seemingly absurd reasons, so our heroes risk life and limb to rescue her. What rules do you expect them to follow here? What consequences do they have? You want them to fail?

One Piece loves playing with this. Entire arcs are built around how stupid it is to defy the government. But they're fucking pirates. They do what they want. That is their purpose in life.

Real people hold these philosophies as well. Will Smith has said this, and I quote.


I am not afraid to die on a treadmill. I will not be out worked. You may have more talent than me, you can be smarter than me, you can be sexier than me. But their care only two outcomes. Either you get off that tread mill first, or I will die. Its that simple.


Why did this post evolve into a Will Smith quote? I don't know.

Stupid writing is what stupid writing does. I can't defend it. But the actual tryhard attitude of Shounen Heroes will never get stale. This is part of what makes Shounen Shounen. Even the well made shows like Gundam(I'm which people die when the hero throws his hissy fit) have that theme.

Show me where smart people are made to look stupid. Often times they pull it off in a willpower fight kind of way. The Rocky IV style. The "fergrt about thr drugs and steroids and super soviet training. Real men just never give up."
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The only shonen protagonists that don't get on my nerves are Luffy,Goku and Yusuke everyone else...just blegh
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Des85 wrote:

HAters gonna hate :P

But I understand why some people will hate them. Getting stupid power-ups every time they're in a pinch.
Fairy Tail is the best example of that. Natsu barelly trains to get his power-ups.


very true
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