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Post Reply New Summer Titles: Yamishibai 2 and BARAKAMON
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George3101228 wrote:

So shows that Funimation have picked up have no chance of being on CR?
But zankyou no terror :(

It all depends on the terms of the contract, which we are not privy to.

The one thing we have to go by is that the few times in the past when Funimation announced they had a title and CR later did the same, there were only a few days at most between the Funimation announcement and the CR announcement.

Funimation announced they had Terror in Resonance back on May 27:
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/05/27/video-funimation-to-simulcast-terror-in-resonance

It has literally been over a month with no announcement from CR. Draw your own conclusion.
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Ha! You are right on a nefarious level... I think it's more push back on Crunchy and us (the loyal fans here) for actually being the catalyst for CHANGE in the streaming industry. Plus how many people are loyal to Funimation as a brand? Meaning—how many are willing to pay for their streaming service on the regular when Crunchy offers such a diverse mix and Hulu takes up the slack. I'm not a Funimation hater, I've just seen them pull these tactics over and over. Hopefully the series will be on Hulu.
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The Ancient One has been patiently explaining this, repeatedly, and not getting through. So, I will take a whack at it.

When it comes to online streaming to the U.S., Funimation and Crunchyroll are in COMPETITION. Funi also has an online subscription service, and wants subscribers to come their way as well. Think of it as the same problem as not being able to buy Fords at the Chevy dealership. Why? Because that is how the business works. You want a Ford, go to the Ford dealership. Put it another way, this is no different than Netflix not letting Hulu stream "House of Cards".

The thing with Latin America is a separate problem, and I'm confident the reasons already given are accurate. That being the case, it's out of CR's control, and probably out of Funi's control as well, if the licensors are refusing to separate the regions.
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Yatterashai, miterashai!! Good to see Yamishibai 2 on the summer list!!
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Ikr, this is bullshit. Not aired in US. What the hell is this. If its not in US, then FUNimation are planning to steam this. And according to Anime News Network, its not available in English-speaking territories. They need to put it in English or we will declared Revolution on them.
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ericthefred wrote:

The Ancient One has been patiently explaining this, repeatedly, and not getting through. So, I will take a whack at it.

When it comes to online streaming to the U.S., Funimation and Crunchyroll are in COMPETITION. Funi also has an online subscription service, and wants subscribers to come their way as well. Think of it as the same problem as not being able to buy Fords at the Chevy dealership. Why? Because that is how the business works. You want a Ford, go to the Ford dealership. Put it another way, this is no different than Netflix not letting Hulu stream "House of Cards".

The thing with Latin America is a separate problem, and I'm confident the reasons already given are accurate. That being the case, it's out of CR's control, and probably out of Funi's control as well, if the licensors are refusing to separate the regions.


If funimation wants to be a competitor then they need to get their shit together. I will not pay a subscription and be forced to sit at my PC to watch it, or go through the hassle of mirroring just to see it on my TV. Not to mention paying a double sub since they don't simulcast everything. Be as it will, at this point all they are doing is harming themselves by forcing people to get torrents or use the free streaming sites.

Quick note: http://www.funimation.com/videos/simulcasts_shows# 8 simulcasts thats totally worth $55 a year! Either get more shows and stop sniping what you think is popular, or give people a super cheap simulcast only option.

I'll say it one more time, sharing a license with CR is more money than you get from the people who pirate.

But its not like someone from funimation is browsing this thread and taking any notes.
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If funimation wants to be a competitor then they need to get their shit together. I will not pay a subscription and be forced to sit at my PC to watch it, or go through the hassle of mirroring just to see it on my TV. Not to mention paying a double sub since they don't simulcast everything. Be as it will, at this point all they are doing is harming themselves by forcing people to get torrents or use the free streaming sites.

Quick note: http://www.funimation.com/videos/simulcasts_shows# 8 simulcasts thats totally worth $55 a year! Either get more shows and stop sniping what you think is popular, or give people a super cheap simulcast only option.

I'll say it one more time, sharing a license with CR is more money than you get from the people who pirate.

But its not like someone from funimation is browsing this thread and taking any notes.

If you have a Roku or Xbox 360, you don't have to watch on your PC or mirror from you phone or tablet. Their site also has an HTML5 video player available, unlike CR, so if your HDTV has a recent web browser, give it a try.

Like CR, you can view their simulcasts free after 1 week. Most are even available on Hulu at that time.

When you are paying for a subscription, it is really their catalog you are buying access to. Their simulcasts are just the icing on the catalog cake.


Compared to people outside the US (and Canada), we actually have it rather good when Funimation gets a simulcast compared to most of those outside the US. Thankfully, CR's recent licensing moves that began with one series in the winter and really took root last season are at least bringing those shows back to a small section of the CR audience (mostly those who get far fewer titles than those of us in the US).

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karishin32 wrote:

If funimation wants to be a competitor then they need to get their shit together. I will not pay a subscription and be forced to sit at my PC to watch it, or go through the hassle of mirroring just to see it on my TV. Not to mention paying a double sub since they don't simulcast everything. Be as it will, at this point all they are doing is harming themselves by forcing people to get torrents or use the free streaming sites.

Quick note: http://www.funimation.com/videos/simulcasts_shows# 8 simulcasts thats totally worth $55 a year! Either get more shows and stop sniping what you think is popular, or give people a super cheap simulcast only option.

I'll say it one more time, sharing a license with CR is more money than you get from the people who pirate.

But its not like someone from funimation is browsing this thread and taking any notes.

If you have a Roku or Xbox 360, you don't have to watch on your PC or mirror from you phone or tablet. Their site also has an HTML5 video player available, unlike CR, so if your HDTV has a recent web browser, give it a try.

Like CR, you can view their simulcasts free after 1 week. Most are even available on Hulu at that time.

When you are paying for a subscription, it is really their catalog you are buying access to. Their simulcasts are just the icing on the catalog cake.


Compared to people outside the US (and Canada), we actually have it rather good when Funimation gets a simulcast compared to most of those outside the US. Thankfully, CR's recent licensing moves that began with one series in the winter and really took root last season are at least bringing those shows back to a small section of the CR audience (mostly those who get far fewer titles than those of us in the US).


No roku, no xbox, and I refuse to watch ads. Its all a sham. I don't want the catalog, I want to legally pay for and stream the 2-3 shows they snipe, and to me thats not worth $55. I know it doesn't matter how much I bitch and complain, but sometimes enough is enough.

If CR has to increase the price of the anime only service by $5 to get these shows, i'd gladly pay. I know i'm getting overly dramatic about a few shows, but its stunts like this that cause people to pirate.
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karishin32 wrote:


ericthefred wrote:

The Ancient One has been patiently explaining this, repeatedly, and not getting through. So, I will take a whack at it.

When it comes to online streaming to the U.S., Funimation and Crunchyroll are in COMPETITION. Funi also has an online subscription service, and wants subscribers to come their way as well. Think of it as the same problem as not being able to buy Fords at the Chevy dealership. Why? Because that is how the business works. You want a Ford, go to the Ford dealership. Put it another way, this is no different than Netflix not letting Hulu stream "House of Cards".

The thing with Latin America is a separate problem, and I'm confident the reasons already given are accurate. That being the case, it's out of CR's control, and probably out of Funi's control as well, if the licensors are refusing to separate the regions.


If funimation wants to be a competitor then they need to get their shit together. I will not pay a subscription and be forced to sit at my PC to watch it, or go through the hassle of mirroring just to see it on my TV. Not to mention paying a double sub since they don't simulcast everything. Be as it will, at this point all they are doing is harming themselves by forcing people to get torrents or use the free streaming sites.

Quick note: http://www.funimation.com/videos/simulcasts_shows# 8 simulcasts thats totally worth $55 a year! Either get more shows and stop sniping what you think is popular, or give people a super cheap simulcast only option.

I'll say it one more time, sharing a license with CR is more money than you get from the people who pirate.

But its not like someone from funimation is browsing this thread and taking any notes.


All completely fair criticisms. Truth is, I only subscribe over there because their advertising supported streaming is absolute sheer crap. Mostly I watch older stuff (yes, I am one of those who will rewatch, not the simulcasts (this spring, the only simulcasts I queued were Soul Eater NOT and Akuma no Riddle.) And, incidentally, they haven't even announced Barakamon yet, and it's about to start broadcasting in Japan. Grrr.

But as you say, Funi isn't likely to be following this thread. That being the case, maybe you might repeat your post on Funi's forums...
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Do they have open forums, I'll go check that out and give some feedback.
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Posted 7/4/14 , edited 7/4/14

karishin32 wrote:

If CR has to increase the price of the anime only service by $5 to get these shows, i'd gladly pay.

If you mean $5 per month more instead of $5 per year more, I'm not certain many people would be willing to pay that for so few additional shows.

I know I wouldn't, but I paid less than that for a 1 year sub to Funimation last Cyber Monday. I also have a Roku and an interest in their catalog. Still, I expect for a few more titles (only some of which most people would be interested in), many that don't fit my profile would balk at paying $5 more per month.


If you meant $5 more per year, I doubt that would turn the tide. Funimation has one advantage over CR: They also license for home video (which return more revenue than streaming licenses). Licensing for home video out of the gate can effectively guarantee them a title. Even dangling the bait of "We'll license it for home video if it performs to a certain level", could swing the balance if CR's bid isn't significantly higher. CR mitigated this somewhat by working with Sentai, but it isn't a perfect solution.



Do they have open forums, I'll go check that out and give some feedback.

You have to at least sign up for a free account to post to them, but you don't have to be a subscriber.
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* Based on the manga series by Yoshino Satsuki by the same name.

Calligrapher Handa Seishuu moves to the remote Gotou Islands off the western coast of Kyushu, interacting with various people of the island.

-- sounds interesting..
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Wow, incredibly disappointed about Barakamon.
Don't even put it in the title of the news story if we aren't even going to get it in the US. / :
Starting to reconsider my premium membership... so many good titles are missing this season.
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YES! Second season of Yami Shibai, I can't wait!!!
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Posted 7/4/14 , edited 7/2/15

SplendidBlended wrote:

Don't even put it in the title of the news story if we aren't even going to get it in the US. / :

That's rather America-centric of you. Other countries do use CR, and it isn't as if this forum is only visible within the US.

People in other countries have had to put up with this disappointment for years (i.e., "We've got this title, but sorry, not for you). Now that the shoe is on the other foot, I can imagine some of them are laughing their asses off at how some people in the US complain about it.

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