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PSA: Writing Reviews
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Posted 7/5/14 , edited 7/5/14
Ok people, the whole point of a review is to provide your opinion on the show by critiquing it and providing a brief summary of said show. (Spoiler or Non-spoiler) What really rustles my jimmies is people making a review on a show BEFORE it is finished simulcasting, which provides a falsified review. And also, said people who made those reviews NEVER update them, thereby making their review misleading.

The first episode came out on April 6! This dude, made a freaking review 3 days after the first episode. 5 stars... 5 STARS AFTER ONE EPISODE? /FACE PALM.



Please Crunchyroll, put code into your website to ONLY ACCEPT REVIEWS AFTER A SERIES HAS FINISHED SIMULCASTING. I am tired of seeing so many misleading reviews.
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Posted 7/5/14
I agree, I've seen shows with reviews weeks before it has even started, like attack on titan there were 5 star reviews, mostly about the manga, but how do they know what the anime would be like? It could have been complete shit
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I've just come to accept it at this point. I don't get why people do it, but it's not like most fan reviews are really valid anyway.

People give 5/5 for things they liked despite the shows flaws, and 1/5 for shows that have an element they don't like. It's not like these reviews made any sense to start, this issue is just more nonsense that happens on any anime site, from here to MAL. Look at Tokyo Ghoul on MAL. One episode is out, and it has an 8.35 and is in the top 200. I don't know why, but for some reason people think a single episode is enough to review on, and at this point I just kind of accept it.
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Yeah most fan made reviews are pretty bad, most fan reviews are completely biased and people can't critique a show worth of crap. I do my best to try to grade shows fairly, but when they pull some horrible matrix plot twist in an already convoluted setting, its just recipe for disaster. Not to mention even for a harem show, it was pretty bad.
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i think you would have done better to black out his name instead of blasting him on the forums. Its clear he did a review of the series up to the point the review was written. I dont see the big deal. I mean it would be nice if they stated "Review of first few episodes" or a "first impression" review.

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just don't read reviews then if it bothers you that much
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These kinds of threads make me wonder where zipzo ran off to lol
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To be serious. Let's say you don't have a lot of time. And you're gonna wait until all the shows have premiered before you decide what to watch. That way, you can know what people think of it up to that point. That's what those early reviews are for. Do you think professional critics get paid to write about shows that finished airing, or are currently airing?

It's the same way when people drop a show early and give it a bad review. They didn't like what they saw so they quit and gave it the rating they thought it deserved. It doesn't matter that they haven't seen the whole show. Their review isn't falsified just because they can't be bothered to finish the piece of crap.

I dunno, it's hard to wrap it up into one point. Just don't be so butthurt about it.
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I'm surprised people even read the reviews on those show title pages.

*I wrote a few myself lol*

Then again, I only wrote them when I finished the show and for shows I really like.
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Posted 7/5/14 , edited 7/5/14
Who the hell reads CR reviews in the first place.....LOL
But in all seriousness, I would hope a new viewer either chooses to start a new show out of pure interest in the synopsis and sees where that takes them, or at least cross reference the reviews she/he makes a informed decision. Also the first place to start is BY far NOT CR to read a review, with at least checking the date of the review and the air date of the an episode close to the last air date of the series.

Again....Cr reviews for a well thought out critique, might as well go find a need in a haystack while you are at it. Even those who think they are giving a thought out critique you can see the bias flying out the wood works in it, be it bashing of glorifying it.
Posted 7/5/14 , edited 7/5/14
I agree that the option to review should be unavailable until the show is finished, but if that is to be done, I think some sort of "first impressions" system should be added.

Truthfully, I tend to find the reviews on this site rather helpful. I don't just look at one or two, but often go trhough a number to get a general idea of why people rated it highly and why people rated it lowly. (Note that this is always the case, since I rarely find someone who resides in the middle. 80% of the time they love it and gush about it or hate it and rant about it).

But I find both the gushing and the ranting useful. In my experience, you get a pretty good idea of the show if you combine the two.

I'm getting off topic though, what I meant to say was that these reviews after only a few episodes function much as first impressions, so adding a dedicated first impression system might help combat this issue. Even if they don't restrict reviews and this continues, after the show ends people tend to start throwing out reviews over the series as a whole that tend to replace those first impressions. Or alternatively, the first impressions that remained true throughout the series tend to be rated more highly as time goes on. The trouble is that right after the show ends is when they're the most inaccurate.

Its an interesting situation, but to sum it all up, I agree that reviews should be restricted to until the show ends.

EDIT - Just thought i'd throw this out there as well, but I don't believe in unbiased reviews. Every anime is someone's favorite, and every anime is hated by someone. There is no way a review can properly convey both of these feelings. Some can come close and these are the closest to being "unbiased" but they are halted by the fact that they themselves deep down either liked it or disliked it. Because of this, I don't consider any review unhelpful - no matter how blatantly biased toward love or hate it is. Though the people at the extremes tend to be less coherent overall.
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Posted 7/5/14 , edited 7/5/14
Clap clap clap.

I can't stop agreeing with everybody here.
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Well just continue checking review dates and find ones that have been written after a series has ended.
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Legendzerox, if you do not think it is proper for a show to be reviewed until the simulcast is complete, what about shows with 100+ or even 200+ episodes? Should all reviewers have to wait?

Then again, some shows do make a very strong impression (good or bad) quickly with viewers and those viewers have formed an opinion. A review of a show is not just factual summary, but also the impression the show has made on the viewer. I have seen some shows that after 2 or 4 episodes have shown a lot of potential. Should I not be allowed to say that the show has entertained me up to that point and I look forward to the rest of the series? Then again, some shows are so poorly written in my opinion, that after the first episode I walk away with no clue whom the cast are nor do I understand a thing about the setting. A show must be able to grab me and hold me in order for me to not consider it torturous to watch the series. You are claiming it is wrong of me to state that I could not finish a series because it left me feeling like it is a waste of my time to keep watching. That is my opinion. That is my review of the series.

If you want to talk about folks making claims without enough experience to backup the claim, how about statements such as "<insert name> is the best drama anime of all time in my opinion"? Has the reviewer watched all the drama anime that exist? Probably not. A more accurate statement would be "<insert name> is the best drama anime that I have watched and can recall." But, we understand the implied in the first statement. Oh, and if that statement sounds familiar, it should. You wrote it in one of your reviews.

But let us look closer at what you are positing for the requirements of reviews and what you feel is appropriate;

Legendzerox wrote:

Yeah most fan made reviews are pretty bad, most fan reviews are completely biased and people can't critique a show worth of crap. I do my best to try to grade shows fairly, but when they pull some horrible matrix plot twist in an already convoluted setting, its just recipe for disaster. Not to mention even for a harem show, it was pretty bad.

"Most"? You don't want folks to review an show until it is complete but here you are reviewing the reviews when there is almost no chance you have read every review ever written up to this point in time. In order to say "most," you would have to have read enough to gain a significant amount of data with no skewed results. Can you review the reviews with your limited exposure and call it accurate? Nope. What you can state though is that you have found the majority of reviews you have read to be not to your liking. You say that "people can't critique a show worth of crap" but that statement alone makes no sense. What is "worth of crap"? Do you mean that they can't critique a show worth less than a poop? Then again, how much do you value crap? What are your standards for reviews? You claim that you attempt to grade shows fairly, but what if your standards are skewed or biased by your own opinions...wait, they are! The star rating system alone is a gauge of opinion and there is no way to objectively have an opinion that is devoid of personal bias. So, what would be required for you to feel that a critique is proper? Keep in mind, your criteria must be acceptable to all, or else someone is going to have a similar sentiment that the review is not proper nor well written.



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To be serious. Let's say you don't have a lot of time. And you're gonna wait until all the shows have premiered before you decide what to watch. That way, you can know what people think of it up to that point. That's what those early reviews are for. Do you think professional critics get paid to write about shows that finished airing, or are currently airing?

It's the same way when people drop a show early and give it a bad review. They didn't like what they saw so they quit and gave it the rating they thought it deserved. It doesn't matter that they haven't seen the whole show. Their review isn't falsified just because they can't be bothered to finish the piece of crap.

I dunno, it's hard to wrap it up into one point. Just don't be so butthurt about it.

How dare you say something that makes logical sense in an argument about how opinions of others can't be valid if they don't match mine (or the OP in this case)? This is exactly what happens, and not just here. Many television shows get cancelled after just a few episodes or even after a single season. It isn't because the show's writing staff and production company planned for it, but because enough exposure was present for people to form an opinion. That opinion is what folks respond to and sometimes agree or disagree with. It is up to each person to form their own opinion in whatever manner they feel is the proper one. If folks feel they can trust reviews written after a single episode and they feel it is worth trusting, then that is their decision. However, if you feel it is not a proper review then you have the choice to disregard it. Not all reviews are going to agree with your opinion, and you may find your opinion changing as a series progresses. However, that can't be said for all. As such, a review written while the series is airing is just that individual's opinion at the time that the review is written. A review written after a series has ended, is just that individual's opinion at the time that the review is written.

Wait a moment, those last two sentences were in agreement! A review is just a person's opinion at the time that the review is written. If the review is written before the release of a show, during the release of a show, or after the show has ended, it is always that person's opinion at that point in time. Instead of getting all upset about someone sharing their opinion at a point in time, why not take into account the point in time?
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don't get me started on some of the store reviews.
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