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Why does Wal-Mart/Sam's Club pay so low?
Posted 7/5/14
So they can get a bigger profit. and be able to sell their products cheaper.
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Posted 7/5/14
Well.. simply put, for profit because they can. And of course there's never an empty supply of unskilled or uneducated workers willing to put up with anything, and even if there wasn't, you'd hire immigrants.
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Posted 7/5/14
Nothing frustrates me more than the misconception that Wal Mart/S.C. has shit pay. Wal Mart pays $8+ starting. Hundreds of other business start at $7+. Why is the spotlight never on the others? Is it because Wal Mart is one of the largest employer in the country, and allow families to be able to afford goods that would normally cost easily double anywhere else?
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Posted 7/5/14

tf2pyros wrote:

I mean really.

If you're a dispensable Cashier at a CostCo you're making $15 an hour. There's 600+ CostCo's opposed to 4k+ Wal-Marts in America. There's only a Sams Club near me, and I work Produce. Lots and lots of back-breaking labor and stress, with only $8.40 pay.

Unless you're at least an Assistant Manager at Wal-Mart/Sam's, I believe you're always just below the poverty line if you work a full time job with 4 kids for example.

Why?


Why? Because the positions you mentioned aren't supposed to be livable at all. They are meant to for supplemental income or as stepping stone jobs for work experience. If someone wants to work as a Walmart cashier and feed a family on that, then they are living in a dreamland. I don't understand why people think every job has to support a family. It doesn't.
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Posted 7/5/14

lexusowner2k7 wrote:

Nothing frustrates me more than the misconception that Wal Mart/S.C. has shit pay. Wal Mart pays $8+ starting. Hundreds of other business start at $7+. Why is the spotlight never on the others? Is it because Wal Mart is one of the largest employer in the country, and allow families to be able to afford goods that would normally cost easily double anywhere else?


I started in September of 2013. I got Hired on at $7.35/h so that is bullshit. The beginning of 2014 I got a raise up to $7.50/h because the minimum wage went up to that where I live. I am a cart pusher and I am the lowest paid cart pusher at my store because I have been there the least amount of time. What is crap is that they have me work my full 8 hour shift during the day by myself when it is at its busiest and have 3 people at night, that still cant keep that fucking parking lot clean. Our store manager was told that she did not have to cut hours and the turned around and cut 400 hours. It was a very fun fourth of july. Walmart is bullshit. Fast food pays better, but this job is a tiny bit better than fast food so fuck it.
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Posted 7/6/14
The result of poor labour laws and the apparent duplicity of walmart's shoppers. I expect if they could get them they'd have slaves.
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Posted 7/6/14

lexusowner2k7 wrote:

Nothing frustrates me more than the misconception that Wal Mart/S.C. has shit pay. Wal Mart pays $8+ starting. Hundreds of other business start at $7+. Why is the spotlight never on the others? Is it because Wal Mart is one of the largest employer in the country, and allow families to be able to afford goods that would normally cost easily double anywhere else?


I want to come work in your world! I don't work for WalMart but in the area I live they do offer one of the lowest total value packages for full time employees and part time employees. The reason folks focus on WalMart is because the company is large enough to effect the local economies where their stores are and when their stores open. In addition, they aren't the only company targeted by the public. Do you remember the McDonalds lawsuits? How about the huge ruckus caused by Starbucks offering to help with college expenses to offset the lack of benefits and wages? I know 24/7 Wall St. is not the most unbiased of economic reporting agencies, but their annual review of worst paying companies is usually in line with the other analysts that publish similar studies. WalMart has historically been in the top 3 spots for quite a while now. I think McDonalds and WalMart are the only two companies to consistently place that high on the list, but I have only gone back a few years when searching.
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Posted 7/6/14

Rohzek wrote:


tf2pyros wrote:

I mean really.

If you're a dispensable Cashier at a CostCo you're making $15 an hour. There's 600+ CostCo's opposed to 4k+ Wal-Marts in America. There's only a Sams Club near me, and I work Produce. Lots and lots of back-breaking labor and stress, with only $8.40 pay.

Unless you're at least an Assistant Manager at Wal-Mart/Sam's, I believe you're always just below the poverty line if you work a full time job with 4 kids for example.

Why?


Why? Because the positions you mentioned aren't supposed to be livable at all. They are meant to for supplemental income or as stepping stone jobs for work experience. If someone wants to work as a Walmart cashier and feed a family on that, then they are living in a dreamland. I don't understand why people think every job has to support a family. It doesn't.


'Twas only an example.
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Posted 7/6/14
They pay minimum wage, that is all they are required to pay so they won't pay more because they know people will work that that pay.
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Posted 7/6/14

tf2pyros wrote:

I mean really.

If you're a dispensable Cashier at a CostCo you're making $15 an hour. There's 600+ CostCo's opposed to 4k+ Wal-Marts in America. There's only a Sams Club near me, and I work Produce. Lots and lots of back-breaking labor and stress, with only $8.40 pay.

Unless you're at least an Assistant Manager at Wal-Mart/Sam's, I believe you're always just below the poverty line if you work a full time job with 4 kids for example.

Why?


Well, looking at Glass Door that $15 is a median. It also does not list where as cost of living is very important to take into account. Places with high costs of living will offer more than places with a lower cost of living in general.

Also, other than the Supervisors, it seems Cashiers at Costco make the most money by quite a bit. A lot of other jobs at Costco are between $11-$13 an hour. Still better than $8.40, but that also assumes a Costco by you would be offering that high a wage to begin with. But it does not look like Cashier is not a dispensable position at Costco, rather it looks like that is where you get promoted to.

Costco also has a different target customer base than Wal Mart. Wal Mart goes after low cost customers and makes up with volume. Costco goes for a more discerning customer that they can charge more per item than Wal Mart and thus make more per sale.

But really the question is, if Assistant Managers and up make more, why are you not an Assistant Manager or Manager? Almost all corporations prefer to promote from within because it looks good to stockholders, but mostly because those internal applicants already know the culture in that company and so will have a higher retention rate. Chances are all or most of the Assistant Managers and Managers where you work came up through the system too, if not at Wal Mart / Sam's Club, then through a similar retail outlet.

Entry level is just that, entry. It is up to each employee to make themselves promotable.
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Posted 7/6/14
Because of overzealous deregulation, lowered minimum wage, and quite possibly welfare benefits.
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Posted 7/6/14
We have been moving from a manufacturing-based economy to a service-based one. Because of the pervasive attitude that "You're only supposed to work those jobs when you're a teenager" the compensation for those jobs have just not kept up.

Back in our grandparents' day it was possible to drop out of high school, get a factory job, join a union, and become a homeowner at 22.

In our day, that factory closed down and moved to China back in the 80's. If you didn't go to college Wal-Mart is really the only place that will take you, and even then they will likely hire someone with a Bachelor's over you.

The system is screwed, and it will only continue to be so as long as we let it.
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Posted 7/6/14
Costco's membership fee is roughly twice as much as Sam's Club's membership fee if I remember correctly. That's a good amount of extra revenue allowing Costco to pay it's employee's a higher wage. The large disparity in the number of locations also plays a factor. From my personal experience, I also find Costco's merchandise to be a tad more expensive that of Sam's Club. Many Costco locations also provide their own gasoline services. We can spend all day discussing why Costco pays it's employees a higher wage than Sam's Club.
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Posted 7/6/14 , edited 7/6/14
Probably because you're doing work that ANYONE that can walk and lift 80+ lbs can do. I work at a body shop as their porter for now, and it's a pretty mindless job, with only strength really needed, I get paid for what I do, and that's just labor. Sometimes I do get to do body work, and that does require more experience rather than brain power, but those guys get paid commission, so their paycheck depends on how much work they do. If you want more money, learn a trade or find a better job.
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Posted 7/7/14

Cellory wrote:


tf2pyros wrote:

I mean really.

If you're a dispensable Cashier at a CostCo you're making $15 an hour. There's 600+ CostCo's opposed to 4k+ Wal-Marts in America. There's only a Sams Club near me, and I work Produce. Lots and lots of back-breaking labor and stress, with only $8.40 pay.

Unless you're at least an Assistant Manager at Wal-Mart/Sam's, I believe you're always just below the poverty line if you work a full time job with 4 kids for example.

Why?


Well, looking at Glass Door that $15 is a median. It also does not list where as cost of living is very important to take into account. Places with high costs of living will offer more than places with a lower cost of living in general.

Also, other than the Supervisors, it seems Cashiers at Costco make the most money by quite a bit. A lot of other jobs at Costco are between $11-$13 an hour. Still better than $8.40, but that also assumes a Costco by you would be offering that high a wage to begin with. But it does not look like Cashier is not a dispensable position at Costco, rather it looks like that is where you get promoted to.

Costco also has a different target customer base than Wal Mart. Wal Mart goes after low cost customers and makes up with volume. Costco goes for a more discerning customer that they can charge more per item than Wal Mart and thus make more per sale.

But really the question is, if Assistant Managers and up make more, why are you not an Assistant Manager or Manager? Almost all corporations prefer to promote from within because it looks good to stockholders, but mostly because those internal applicants already know the culture in that company and so will have a higher retention rate. Chances are all or most of the Assistant Managers and Managers where you work came up through the system too, if not at Wal Mart / Sam's Club, then through a similar retail outlet.

Entry level is just that, entry. It is up to each employee to make themselves promotable.


I'm not a Manager or Asst. Manager because there's no room for me to grow. Their "promises", at especially the specific Sam's Club I work at, are a sham. I was actually talking about this the other day with another associate, about how he actually thinks I should at least be promoted to a Team Leader. Another Team Leader in the vicinity overheard and said, "fat chance". Those words block the door to anyone growing. With that attitude and respect, there's just no room, and if any, it's slim.
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