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lineup has been looking really great good job crunchy!! I really want Tokyo Ghoul
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bigddan11 wrote:

FUNi and Crunchyroll really need to start working together. I realize FUNi wants to build up their premium subscriber base, which I am a part of, but given how low their simulcast numbers are compared to CR, they should realize realize that they could be great partners. Heck, I wouldn't mind FUNi having the stream available only on their site, but I would really love to see them use R video service instead of theirs. It buffers way too much for my taste.


That would be somewhat like HBO and Showtime showing their exclusives on both--what's in it for Funi? Given how Funi has less simulcasted anime, there would be little incentive to sub there, though they do have a more extensive back-catalog (and for those that are out on DVD, tend to be the uncensored versions).

Actually, I would perhaps see that CR needs to partner more closely with a DVD-publishing company. Not being able to offer disc-publishing revenue in addition to their streaming might make them less attractive to the content holders. In fact, if they set up a disc-publishing company of their own, they might be able to do that in a more global fashion rather than is currently the case. Plus, doing so might mean that they could end up streaming OVAs and uncensored versions of shows they originally simulcast, just like Funi.
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NiraVancopoulos wrote:

I hope that one of tomorrow's announcements be TokyoESP, it's the last one in my list to air and would be awesome if I can watch it here in Crunchyroll ^^.


The good news is you can watch it. That bad news is you have to move to Bulgaria to do so. (Well, I guess there's also Spain and a couple of other European countries).



But I don't want to go elsewhere just to watch a show , it's so expensive .

Geoblocking shouldn't exist on the internet .
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NiraVancopoulos wrote: Geoblocking shouldn't exist on the internet .

Of course it shouldn't, but lots of things are not the way they should be. Rich people should not get to decide who runs in general elections in the US ... but they do.

What would be really great is if they can work out a standard contract where if a simulcaster cannot have exclusive streaming right to a region if they do not use those rights to stream to a region. A kind of automatic "prove that you are using it, or you lose it", and then Crunchyroll could pick up all of those "black hole" streaming rights around the world.

I mean, seriously, why not grant at least premium member rights to everywhere in Africa outside their standard contract regions? The strongest anime market in Sub-Saharan Africa is South Africa, and their biggest anime seller is an import seller, that labels all of their titles with {A}, {B}, {Z1}, or {Z2} so people know if it will play on their BD or DVD player.

And if I get this job teaching in China, I'm going to be way more region blocked than Latin America, so I guess its good that I have been in favor of more regions whenever Crunchyroll can get them ... so I won't have to change my tune if I am in Beijing with only a few series still showing up in my queue.

So look on the bright side ... so far, Latin America is getting 75% as many new series as the US, when just a little over a year ago that was under 50%. At the moment, for full length series, China, India, Korea and Taiwan are getting 0%.
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Crunchy could stop buying the license of generic idol anime #89098 and put that money on more popular stuff.
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Wondering if there are going to be anymore JDrama announcements (for the UK) this season....
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Holy sh*t...

you guys got Black Butler season 3??? could die right now
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thank you Shinji for Encouragement of Climb 2!
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Zhiroc wrote:


bigddan11 wrote:

FUNi and Crunchyroll really need to start working together. I realize FUNi wants to build up their premium subscriber base, which I am a part of, but given how low their simulcast numbers are compared to CR, they should realize realize that they could be great partners. Heck, I wouldn't mind FUNi having the stream available only on their site, but I would really love to see them use R video service instead of theirs. It buffers way too much for my taste.


That would be somewhat like HBO and Showtime showing their exclusives on both--what's in it for Funi? Given how Funi has less simulcasted anime, there would be little incentive to sub there, though they do have a more extensive back-catalog (and for those that are out on DVD, tend to be the uncensored versions).

Actually, I would perhaps see that CR needs to partner more closely with a DVD-publishing company. Not being able to offer disc-publishing revenue in addition to their streaming might make them less attractive to the content holders. In fact, if they set up a disc-publishing company of their own, they might be able to do that in a more global fashion rather than is currently the case. Plus, doing so might mean that they could end up streaming OVAs and uncensored versions of shows they originally simulcast, just like Funi.


I think you misinterpret what I was saying. I said FUNi and Crunchyroll need to work together. In a case like this, would it be that hard to allow people on Crunchyroll to view it a week after it premieres on FUNi's site, especially since FUNi makes it eligible to be viewed at that time for everyone on their site? And look at what both of them have viewing rights too. Attack on Titan, One Piece, Toriko, Free Eternal Summer, and previously Digimon Adventure 02 are just a few of the titles they've both had streaming rights to at the same time. In virtually all the cases, viewership on Crunchyroll dwarfs that compared to FUNi's site. Then there is the viewing availablity. FUNi gives you only SD or HD. Crunchyroll has 4 different viewing possibilities. Furthermore FUNi tends to do a lot of theirs through Hulu, even if you are a premium subscriber. That means you have to view the commercials.

What I am saying is not to have Crunchyroll replace FUNi. I'm saying the two should work on some sort of agreement that allows them both to get the viewership. In this case FUNi could have the exclusive week premieres, and then after a week instead of having them placed on Hulu, they could have them placed on CR, where premium subscribers would still get them commercial free while free subscribers would still get the commercials.

And i personally see no reason for CR to go out and get a DVD company. The titles that were picked up from Crunchyroll and released with only subs (Eyeshield 21 and Gintama) didn't do very well. Unless CR was to become a dubbing company, they really have no need to start doing DVD's.
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karishin32 wrote:

Crunchy could stop buying the license of generic idol anime #89098 and put that money on more popular stuff.

If generic idol anime #89098 makes money for CR, what valid business reason would there be to stop licensing it?

You're basically suggesting CR overpay for titles you believe are of more merit (and which someone else might not agree with). You also run the risk of Funimation just upping their bid, and at some point you end up in a bidding war.

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Tokyo ESP and Black Butler goes to Funimation I guess?
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tlegoman wrote:

Tokyo ESP and Black Butler goes to Funimation I guess?

Daisuki also has Black Butler: Book of Circus, which is especially important for those outside the US and Canada:
http://www.daisuki.net/anime/detail/BlackButlerBookofCircus

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I was pretty worried at first because the only two titles I cared about weren't in Canada... Luckily I also sub to Funimation, so crisis averted!
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It's really great that CR gets more and more animes from the current season. Too bad the country selection is often very limited (especially in europe for switzerland and germany) but that's a manageable ;)

What I don't like is the very liberal use of the word "Simulcast". I don't consider a couple of days or a week as very simultaneous. Sure, it's still from the current season but with quite a long delay. My opinion is that "Simulcast" should only be used for series which air max. 24h after it's broadcast in japan. Everything else should be labeled "Anime Season Spring/Summer/... 20XX" and not "Simulcast" do be more precise. I think it's very confusing that some series air very, very close to the japanese air date and others don't while still being in the same category. By putting them in another category it's still clear that they are current and will be released during the same months but sets the expectations correctly on what a simulcast is.
Another option would be to drop the word "Simulcast" entirely and just label all current streams as "Anime Season ...".

I can understand that streaming during the same season is in a way simultaneous and really great compared to half a year later but I don't think the expectations are managed correctly. Understandably the term "Simulcast" is probably not all that bad for marketing reasons but that doesn't help either.
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