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Post Reply CR Player - HTML5 or Flash which do you prefer?
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Posted 7/12/14 , edited 7/12/14
Lets vote and see the winner. I think is also a feedback for CR.
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Posted 7/12/14

emerylopes wrote:

Lets vote and see the winner. I think is also a feedback for CR.


Apps. The last time I watched something on a browser was the dubbed episodes of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders, and that's only because those weren't working on the Xbox 360, and they were going away before the next business day.
Posted 7/14/14 , edited 7/14/14
As riddled with vulnerabilities as flash is I prefer it to the Encrypted Media Extension framework Html 5 uses, it's security and privacy nightmare. Flash has at least been beaten on and patched over the years, EME is new bound bound to cause problem. Also it's benefit is entirely one sided, it's sole purpose is to rest control away from the user and make the beholden to special interests. Flash at least has other uses.
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Posted 11/2/14 , edited 11/2/14
I feel like HTML5 lacks security.
I am able to access all audio, photos, and video raw files off of any HTML5 supported website which were not using Flash Player, through their source code (checking out of curiosity as a web developer).

Even Firefox allows you to download the raw files which can easily be converted into the original raw files.

So far, Flash Player security is dominating on protecting content because it isn't a simple click of the button to obtain files.

I'm currently trying to figure out how to make HTML5 media protected for my website. However, there is no solutions at the moment. I'm forced to use Flash player still.

There isn't a single HTML5 website that I'm struggling to obtain media from. I love HTML5 features, but it's upsetting how easy it is to obtain protected media.
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Posted 11/2/14 , edited 11/2/14

ezekieo wrote:

I feel like HTML5 lacks security.
I am able to access all audio, photos, and video raw files off of any HTML5 supported website which were not using Flash Player, through their source code (checking out of curiosity as a web developer).

Even Firefox allows you to download the raw files which can easily be converted into the original raw files.

So far, Flash Player security is dominating on protecting content because it isn't a simple click of the button to obtain files.

I'm currently trying to figure out how to make HTML5 media protected for my website. However, there is no solutions at the moment. I'm forced to use Flash player still.

There isn't a single HTML5 website that I'm struggling to obtain media from. I love HTML5 features, but it's upsetting how easy it is to obtain protected media.


Google helps,
http://techblog.netflix.com/2013/04/html5-video-at-netflix.html

EDIT: Granted, I don't know if Firefox supports EME and MSE yet. Mozilla Firefox has hard time catching up with Chrome / IE...
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Posted 11/2/14 , edited 11/2/14

ezekieo wrote:

There isn't a single HTML5 website that I'm struggling to obtain media from. I love HTML5 features, but it's upsetting how easy it is to obtain protected media.

Are you able to obtain media from Netflix played via their HTML5 player? They should have the best DRM for HTML5, as they helped developed some of the extensions that enable it.

AFAIK, for web browsers on computers, they currently only support HTML5 playback on Safari on OS X Yosemite, and IE 11 on Windows 8.1 (as well as some devices running Chrome OS).
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TheAncientOne wrote:
Are you able to obtain media from Netflix played via their HTML5 player? They should have the best DRM for HTML5, as they helped developed some of the extensions that enable it.

AFAIK, for web browsers on computers, they currently only support HTML5 playback on Safari on OS X Yosemite, and IE 11 on Windows 8.1 (as well as some devices running Chrome OS).


AFAIK Chrome also support it and IE11 is available for Windows 7.
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Posted 11/2/14

udedenkz wrote:

AFAIK Chrome also support it and IE11 is available for Windows 7.

While I have confirmed it does work in Chrome, I take it you haven't tried playing Netflix using IE 11 on Windows 7 (or Windows 8) without Silverlight installed. There is a reason Netflix itself specified Windows 8.1, just as you can't simply install the latest version of Safari on any Mac running an earlier version of OS X and expect Netflix to work.

That isn't the only difference between IE 11 on Windows 8.1 vs. Windows 7, but that other difference relates to Flash, which has nothing to do with Netflix, but does further point out that just because the name and version number of the browser are the same, it doesn't mean they are functionally identical.

I can confirm that when I attempt to play any Netflix video using IE 11 on my Windows 7 system in the other room, I immediately get a prompt to install Silverlight.

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Posted 11/2/14 , edited 11/2/14
Hello Ancient One,

Oh yeah... Netflixs... I forgot they were going to start using HTML5 players. Thanks man!

I'm going to check out their security... Legally.
I'm curious about the security on their content. If it's difficult to obtained the media or if it cannot be accessed, I'll invest more on HTML5.

Ezz~
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