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15 years ago you could find anime in stores in VHS & DVD format. There was virtually no online streaming of anime. The prices of the DVDs was $20- 30 for four episodes on the disk, so you would end up paying over $100 for a season's worth. This drove a lot of people to fansubs and pirated copies, which provoked a reaction from the disk distributors. Over the years some of the old disk distributors have gone out of business. However, the advent of legal online streaming (Crunchroll, etc.) has helped the situation, and fans can now even watch simulcast anime. Other manufacturers (Funimation, etc.) have stepped up to produce the even better Blu-ray version disks with whole seasons for a more reasonable price ($30-50) for 24 episodes worth. Attendance at conventions is booming (Otakon now has a 35,000 attendee limit). So anime is not dead, it has just changed.
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http://myanimelist.net/anime/22101/Soredemo_Sekai_wa_Utsukushii

Still World Is Beautiful

This anime was made this year and I say it is really good. It has a nice atmosphere and a really good romance. I don't think anime industry is dying. Maybe that is what you feel. Also there are some badass new Naruto Shippuden episodes now so Anime Japan is showing their classical skills and I'm still enjoying it. Of course it might seem like many series are based on the same concepts and loses it's originality but I would not kill off anime industry just yet.

To be honest I asked this question many times when talking about the game industry. There I would actually ask the question. Is the game industry dying? Because good old games be it bad graphics and bad programming still had it's unique style but now it's all about money. That is what I feel. I think I still have some titles that I like in games but they changed a lot. Even the movie industry has changed. There is more action and special effects but less story and plot. I don't like that either but I try to enjoy it in a modern way. All those special effects and 360 sounds still impress me.

I can ask this about the world too. Is the world dying? Like dying in the sense of being alive with a soul or not. It loses it's charm and personality and the machines is taking over. Well at least we focus a lot on technology and automatic systems. So maybe it's not about anime or games but the world itself? I can't blame it with how this society is constructed. It is bound to fail and where does the darkness come from? I believe it comes from every persons single heart. Be it good or bad person, good or bad sides, both sides of a war or anything like that.

Believing that this world will change for the better and take a different path sounds totally unrealistic but I will still do that. The less people care about it anymore, the less chance it is for this world to change. At least that is what I think but there is still life in some anime series!!!
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Nooope.
It's like when people ask about gaming/filming industry.

They have a downslump time to time, nowhere near dying
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Given the amount of it that's being made, and how much more accessible it has become I'd say its never been more alive. Is piracy going to affect sales? In some cases yes, but there was a time when we'd have had astonishingly limited access to anime and wouldn't even have been able to watch it illegally and it still managed to thrive a few decades ago. While still definitely being a niche interest, as the fanbase grows, so does the income, the amount of people made aware of it, and the number of shows. I've seen nothing to suggest a decline at all. It's not that there are more 'bad' shows these days. There have always been bad shows, it's just that now that we have more access to anime it's easier to find said 'bad' shows amond the good ones. With some seasons seeing 30-40 new anime being released, that hardly sounds like 'failure'.
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Just because Studio Ghibli Is having problems and people even when they ask Hayao Miyazaki about it he put on his shades and smiled he kind of did this.


He doesn't really care if his company goes down but his animation he knows will never be lost in memory of people who watch his flims.
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Is the anime industry really dying? ............


In Japan? No

In America? Yes
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No.
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Anime is alive
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Go buy some Anime DVDs or watch Crunchyroll anime.

Go do it now bitch.


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Posted 8/22/14
There's people who actually think this.

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Student_Zero wrote: You know, you've probably heard about this every now and then, but what are your thoughts? Do you think the anime industry (be it North America or Japan) has been declining so much in the last decade to the point where it may be endangered fading away fairly soon?

The concerns about anime "dying" in Japan are long term concerns ... a projection over the next 20 years, not a projection over the next 2 years.

"Over the last decade" covers two negative trends, the loss of advertising revenue as a substantial source of income (most ads on the majority of late night anime series are advertisements for the physical release of that anime, so the broadcast is more an informercial than what we think of as a revenue generating broadcast).

The short term financial crisis of 2008-2009 has passed. And the transition to very little broadcast revenue is pretty much complete: once a former source of revenue has mostly dropped away, the damage is done ... that trend has mostly bottomed out, with only a few animated series generating any appreciable advertising revenue, and most of those being children's cartoons.

And the loss of the rental market which was responsible for the production of so many "OVA" releases in the 90s and early 2000's ... which has basically gone away, so that has also bottomed out.

Once you've mostly lost a revenue source, its mathematically impossible for that trend to continue going downward at the same rate ... since there's very little left to lose.

Long term, its got all of the problems that its had for a while ~ bad demographics, abysmal working condition for many of the actual animators, razor thin profit margins in many productions ~ but anime in Japan is the top end of a larger industry, with manga and light novels and graphic novels as the mass market product and anime productions at the premium end of the market, and so long as the mass market survives, it will generate continued demand for the premium end.

As far as "anime dying" in the US, we've gone through a similar transition, but listening to industry insider interviews in ANNcast, they've been saying either steady or improving sales for two or three years now. Again, once you've lost all or most of a given revenue source, that decline doesn't project forward into the next decade, because there's little left to lose. A lot of the declines in the revenues in the last decade involved losing big chunks of the old brick and mortar distribution system ... and you can only lose any given distribution channel once. And the loss in terms of total "market value" has been much more extreme than the loss in revenue to the distributors, because the distributors get a smaller share of the normal shelf price and a larger share of the normal online selling price.


Is piracy solely to blame, or does it really come down to other factors, such as declining birthrate,etc. Can you see the industry picking up soon with the advancement of technology and legal online streaming, but to the point where it'll be physical releases dying?

So long as there are 10,000-20,000 otaku able to ready, willing and able to generate sales of 3,000 volumes of a cherished anime at $300-$500 per broadcast season, physical distribution will not die in Japan.

The collectors market is much smaller overseas, and there's an open question whether digital downloads will mature as a market to fill in the gap between digital streaming and collection of physical releases, but as long as American distributors can sell 3,000 copies of a budget release or 1,000 copies of a premium collectors release, they'll keep on doing it, and there is no sign of either end of the market declining to the point where either of those become impossible ... at least, not any time soon. There is no certainty about the long term future of any physical medium, but for the short and medium term, the danger period seems to have passed, and physical distribution in North America at least seems to have survived it.

Looking at the changes from 2006-2009, it looks like a transition, not an ongoing trend, and it looks like we've pretty much completed the transition.
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No the Anime industry is not dying because it's not a collective industry...

There are several different companies, studios, producers, authors etc etc etc.
And even if all of the people who makes Anime for a living died in the world, there would be people ready to take over for them...
It's like asking if the dairy industry is dying...
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Anime is stagnant atm, says ChocolatDouchebag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2lVi-SeIx0

Fund that Under the Dog anime.

"Acclaimed director Hayao Miyazaki let audiences know how he really feels about the anime industry in a recent television interview. According to the recent retiree, anime suffers because industry staff is made up of otaku who "don't spend time watching real people" and are "humans who can't stand looking at other humans."

Miyazaki explained that animating people can only be done by those who spend time observing others, something he feels the industry lacks because it's "full of otaku."

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2014-01-30/miyazaki/the-problem-with-the-anime-industry-is-it-full-of-otaku
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AnimeKami wrote:

forgot about the part where the red giant engulfs our earth.

but most of it would of burned to a crisp by then.


I don't think there'll be anything on earth worth burning by then anyway.
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