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Posted 8/28/14 , edited 8/28/14
i dont know what your sources were for this topic... but they are clearly wrong...
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Posted 8/28/14

Stonewolfe wrote:




It's not dying. Simple as that.


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Posted 8/28/14 , edited 8/28/14

tasti_man_LH wrote:

I guarantee you that shows like Knights of Sidonia would not have been approved to be animated if not because of AoT.

Take into account the following facts:

AoT premiered on April 6, 2013. The KoS anime was announced as green-lit on May 16, 2013 (and we can assume negotiations prior to this took some time).

At this point only 6 episodes of AoT had aired.

On its premiere station, AoT aired at a couple of minutes before 2 AM, so ratings would have largely been ignored.

The first DVD/BD for AoT didn't ship until mid-July 2013.


To be honest, your guarantee doesn't appear to have very good backing.

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Posted 8/28/14
no just no
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I don't see why people would expect that much from AoT being a success. Not like AoT was anything new to begin with. In case people have forgotten or aren't aware... Fate/Zero is also a big success(ok lesser than AoT but also another big seller). Also each season always gets it's fair share of action shows(at it's core AoT is an action show) and people are still asking for more?
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Is it dying? Probably not.

Does it feel like it's dying? Depends on what you're looking at.

Perception is reality. If you're looking for a physical presence, I'd say it seems fairly dead compared to the heyday of around 10-15 years ago. I remember a few anime magazines that came out monthly. Otaku USA is the only one I know of now and it's bi-monthly.

I used to be able to go to Best Buy and find a whole aisle filled with anime, now it's barely one shelf.

There's no mainstream hit anime like Sailor Moon, DBZ or Pokemon. It's been tried with One Piece, Naruto and Bleach and while your mileage may vary nothing has run away. The most precise reason I can think of are Toonami used to be on in the afternoon every day during the week and not just on Saturday late at night...

Pop culturally, it's really faded. Especially if you're a casual fan or watcher.

The online presence, since it started, has always been there. And with social media what it is, it's a lot easier to connect and find new things especially the non-DVD merchandise. And streaming has made it even more readily available. How much it ends up having an effect on physical media is to be determined.
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Its getting more popular in the west but very little by little less popular in japan so its not dying but if your from japan you know you can say its dying i guess
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Depends on what you mean. As a whole it's fine, but changing fairly quickly to online streaming except for maybe Japan where BD sales matter. From various studios? Well, some are going out of business. Manglobe declared bankruptcy not too long ago after Gangsta. Some new studios are coming into their own such as Mappa which has been building its track record. Also certain studios have started to dominate more than others rather than having a few middling studios. People know about Shaft, Kyoto Animation, Madhouse, and Bones. I think in terms of middling I'd say J.C. Staff and P.A. Works are the only ones left.

I think shifting might be a better word here. Old studios die out, a few new ones are coming in to take a stab at the medium, and life goes on season by season.
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People need to carry fewer phoenix downs.
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  • Theatrical animations recorded the 2nd largest box office take [...] a 15% increase over the past year.

  • CD and DVD market reported an 8.9% increase.

  • Production minutes of TV animations and box office revenue of theatrical animations increased substantially.
  • Production minutes of TV animations [reported an] 11.1% increase over the previous year.
  • Production minutes of TV animations increased for three years running.

  • The number of production minutes of theatrical animations was the largest in history.

  • The number of TV animation works was close to record-breaking [...] increased by 22.1% over the previous year.

  • Shipment value of videogram [physical media]: The amount was unchanged for 6 years running.
  • Considering the decline of sales in music CDs and other video packages, the figure was phenomenal.

  • Internet distribution of Japanese animations is now in its second growth phase.
  • Further growth is expected [...] [reported] a 25% increase over the previous year.

  • At this moment, there is no doubt that the number of animation works produced will continue to increase until 2016, and the result will certainly receive attention from both inside and outside the industry.

http://aja.gr.jp/english/japan-anime-data

That was for 2013. 2014 showed additional growth of 10%. 2015 report should be out next September-ish.
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Niche and streaming (Crunchyroll, Funimation, Hulu, Netflix ,etc,.) has the potential to add further revenue to anime in a way more than just Japanese TV broadcast can finance. I also think that cable TV (Toonami, Anime Network, Animax, etc,.) has also done enormously to expand the anime ecosystem.

The US licensing and publishing of manga has also greatly expanded the manga ecosystem, not just in the US but also world wide.

I like to see how YouTube Red and Amazon Prime can get involved.
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I don't think it's even possible. Anime is so big in Japan it's basically part of their history. Also, with technology so amazing now compare to before, isn't anime easier to make? Even if the amount of anime that target older audience decline, no way would the anime targeting at children die off. I used to live in Asia and children love anime. It drives a lot of toy sales too. I had a ton of gundam models that I sadly didn't knew to appreciate when I was a kid.
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Dying?! Really?!
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Repeats itself ad nauseam. It may grow larger, but it is essentially dying. There isn't much innovation or originality. Very little experimentation. They've stuck to terrible standards and that is one of several things killing it like a malignant cancer. I'm damn near giving up on most of the new stuff. I see Masamune Shirou stoop to moe with Pandora and I want to throw this repetitive shit away.

If it can come to its senses, then I'm staying on-board. Else, fuck this shit, I'm out.
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