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Posted 8/18/14 , edited 8/20/14

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Heaven forbid we have one female character who isn't a badass who charges into the front lines and shreds up everything she sees among a plethora of female characters who do meet that description, right? Goodness, we can't ever have a protagonist's journey involve multiple failures and inner turmoil. Orihime is just a bad character.


Well. Isn't that how Bleach likes to portray their women? Badass and headstrong with a hint of independence?
I mean, that's the only reason why Orihime gets so much crap, because she's neither of the first two.
Anyways, I don't care if the female protagonist is super strong or badass or fails a bunch. The thing that ticks me off the most isn't the fact that the character gets in the way. It mostly has to do with personality and how that character handles situations for me. The same with real life.

If I met Rukia or Soifon in real life, as regular humans, I most likely would still not like them. Where if I would meet Orihime or Nelliel, we'd most likely be friends.
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Posted 8/19/14 , edited 8/19/14

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Rukia Kuchiki.
I hate her. One of my friends loves her. We argue all the time about it.
I think Rukia's useless and gets in the way. She's a conformist and a hypocrite.

Also, Light Yagami.
I love him. Same friend as above hates him. We argue about this as well.
She's an L fan. I don't like L. 'Nuff said.

Just thinking about it irritates me.


*quietly nods in agreement at your friend*

What are your thoughts on Soifon, then?


I don't really like Soifon that much either. But they don't show her in the show as much as Rukia so I usually just ignore her.
It's kind of hard to ignore Rukia though since they put her in all of the major fights and arcs and even fillers.



Can somebody PLEASE TELL ME why everybody hates Soifon?

What is there to even hate about her? The only reason I've heard is that she's useless or something because she loses all the time? She doesn't actually. She got way cooler after she revealed her gun thing while fighting the number 2 espada as well. That was an awesome fight too.

I just don't know where the hate comes from, please help me.
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Posted 8/19/14 , edited 8/19/14

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Can somebody PLEASE TELL ME why everybody hates Soifon?

What is there to even hate about her? The only reason I've heard is that she's useless or something because she loses all the time? She doesn't actually. She got way cooler after she revealed her gun thing while fighting the number 2 espada as well. That was an awesome fight too.

I just don't know where the hate comes from, please help me.


I don't think Soifon is useless, she's captain of the stealth force for goodness sake. I just don't like her personality.
She comes off as rude and controlling to me.
I just thinks she's too 'serious' for my taste. Doesn't know how to relax or see the good in things.
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Naru Narusegawa of Love Hina.

She's probably the ultimate tsundere, for good and bad. For good in that Love Hina did a pretty good job of making her that way due to her past as well as her obvious insecurity. She's not as charming as someone like Taiga, but she feels a bit more real than the average tsundere because of it.

However it also grated that she couldn't just make up her mind and express her feelings until the very end, and she was one of the first tsunderes to take her abuse to almost absurd levels. She also is probably the least winsome of all the waifu material save for Kitsune; both Mutsumi and Shinobu both genuinely cared for Keitaro and would have been better matches.

I'm a little neutral on her. She's not as bad as some tsunderes, like Taiga. She's still pretty bad though, and seeing her get punched by Konako was some just desserts.
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Posted 8/19/14

TheOMGTrain wrote:


WitlessMean wrote:

Can somebody PLEASE TELL ME why everybody hates Soifon?

What is there to even hate about her? The only reason I've heard is that she's useless or something because she loses all the time? She doesn't actually. She got way cooler after she revealed her gun thing while fighting the number 2 espada as well. That was an awesome fight too.

I just don't know where the hate comes from, please help me.


I don't think Soifon is useless, she's captain of the stealth force for goodness sake. I just don't like her personality.
She comes off as rude and controlling to me.
I just thinks she's too 'serious' for my taste. Doesn't know how to relax or see the good in things.



Yeah I think she's supposed to be serious in her line of work though. You're right though, it would be nice to see her lighten up once and a while. I think there needs to be a character like her though. It definitely makes sense if you just don't like her personality. Maybe that's what everybody hates about her.... I don't know. I always liked her but I see tons of hate for whatever reason.
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Off the top of my head I can only think of Mako. She had her moments, but to me it was annoying that almost everytime the show had a glimmer of maturity, she'd shove in and ruin it.
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Well. Isn't that how Bleach likes to portray their women? Badass and headstrong with a hint of independence?
I mean, that's the only reason why Orihime gets so much crap, because she's neither of the first two.


Well, it's mixed progress. On the one hand the work represents capable, competent women who are actually capable of having friendly, even romantic, relationships. The women in Bleach are actually much more like people than in anime of previous decades. On the other hand, it's pretty apparent that Kubo loves boob jokes a little too much. Rangiku's proportions are as disturbing as they are hilarious.


Anyways, I don't care if the female protagonist is super strong or badass or fails a bunch. The thing that ticks me off the most isn't the fact that the character gets in the way. It mostly has to do with personality and how that character handles situations for me. The same with real life.

If I met Rukia or Soifon in real life, as regular humans, I most likely would still not like them. Where if I would meet Orihime or Nelliel, we'd most likely be friends.


I am pleased to see that your rationale is such as I more or less judge characters the same way when I'm watching passively. I generally ask myself who I would enjoy being with, who I see myself in, and who I would like to be more like, and those tend to be my favorites. That's why I like Rukia so much, it's why I like Momo Hinamori, and it's why I like Soifon. That peoples' choices don't match my own simply says to me that others see themselves, what they'd like to be, and who they'd like to be around in different characters than I do.
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I believe the character I find to be the most polarizing has already been mentioned.

This stain on society


This woman is about as useless as tits on a bull so her too
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Sasuke Uchiha.
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Lelouch Lamperouge- Code Geass; Lelouch of the Rebellion.



People say the guy is a heartless douche and a hypocrite altogether. I like his character a lot and see him more than a jerk.



That's the funny thing, people tend to put Light and Lelouche into the same basket, but they are two different characters.

Lelouche :

Motives - Protecting His Sister.
-Liberating Japan.
-Getting revenge on his father / people responsible for his mother's death.

He makes mistakes on a few occasions which get innocent people killed. He tries to make the best of a bad situation by using the deaths of these people as tools (essentially making their deaths not meaningless).
He eventually sets the world up for a better future and even uses his own death as a tool.

He is a pretty high value of grey, especially when you consider a lot of the other characters in the Code Geass universe.


Light :

Motives
- Ethnic Cleansing

He uses everyone including his own family intentionally as a means to his desired end. He kills people who he would consider otherwise to be worthy of not being ethnically cleansed, for the simply reason that they pose a threat to him. He is easily corrupted by the power that is given to him. He struggles at all costs to gain the upper hand.

He is an extremely low value of grey.


Light on one hand is amoral, he doesn't consider what he is doing as evil at all. He does what he does to further his own ends, and that is all that matters to him. He is generally what you would consider evil.

Lelouche on the other hand is a moral opportunist. He realizes when he does something right and does something wrong, the thing is though he also realizes that if he just has an emotional breakdown that everything he has done will have been pointless.

I think the problem here is that people rely too heavily on the concept of justice when watching these shows. They believe that for every bad deed there should be punishment. Punishment however is only an emotional remedy to a practical problem. A practical remedy would be to work your hardest to fix a problem and cut your losses, which is what Code Geass was about.
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xxJing wrote:


qualeshia3 wrote:

Lelouch Lamperouge- Code Geass; Lelouch of the Rebellion.



People say the guy is a heartless douche and a hypocrite altogether. I like his character a lot and see him more than a jerk.



That's the funny thing, people tend to put Light and Lelouche into the same basket, but they are two different characters.

Lelouche :

Motives - Protecting His Sister.
-Liberating Japan.
-Getting revenge on his father / people responsible for his mother's death.

He makes mistakes on a few occasions which get innocent people killed. He tries to make the best of a bad situation by using the deaths of these people as tools (essentially making their deaths not meaningless).
He eventually sets the world up for a better future and even uses his own death as a tool.

He is a pretty high value of grey, especially when you consider a lot of the other characters in the Code Geass universe.


My issue with him, and with the series was that it brings in to question "Do the ends justify the means?". Yes, his eventual goal was noble, but the means by which he reached it were messy, morally reprehensible, and occasionally outright detestable. In my opinion the answer is no, the cost to achieve his goal was far too great. Too many innocent bystanders lost their lives for him to succeed.

The question I've asked is if their was a way he could have achieved his goal without all those innocent deaths. Honestly, if he hadn't accidentally fucked over Euphemia there may have been some chance but other than that, I don't know. Either way, I just loathed him as a person, regardless of his goals.

I still have no opinion on Light because I still haven't watched Death Note.
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Brakkis wrote:


My issue with him, and with the series was that it brings in to question "Do the ends justify the means?". Yes, his eventual goal was noble, but the means by which he reached it were messy, morally reprehensible, and occasionally outright detestable. In my opinion the answer is no, the cost to achieve his goal was far too great. Too many innocent bystanders lost their lives for him to succeed.

The question I've asked is if their was a way he could have achieved his goal without all those innocent deaths. Honestly, if he hadn't accidentally fucked over Euphemia there may have been some chance but other than that, I don't know. Either way, I just loathed him as a person, regardless of his goals.

I still have no opinion on Light because I still haven't watched Death Note.


Take a look at your other options though.

Charles - Wanted to use that God Eye thing to basically make a Borg world.

Shneizel - Wanted to use a flying nuke launcher to hold the world hostage.

Lelouch - Wanted to make himself into the bad guy so everyone else could be good guys.

Also if you look at the other points in the series, Lelouch was prepared to pretty much go down alone if he ever screwed up so bad that everything would fail. When everyone found out about Lelouch's identity, he tried to act like as much of an asshole as he could so that only he would be punished. The only intentionally evil thing he did in the series was kill the children with the geass powers, if anything that makes him evil. Everything else was a mistake, usually a poorly written mistake too.

I personally like grey heroes though. White Knights have it too easy, they have a morally pure line drawn out for them that they can follow. Grey heroes have to make due with the best they have. They don't have the option of saving everyone, they either save some or save none.


As for Light he is just evil. There really is no redeeming factor to him. He is about as evil as they get. It's that simple. He does what is the best for himself and himself alone at any point in the series.
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Right now, I'm thinking of Tsukiyama Shuu. EVERYONE in the Tokyo Ghoul fandom loves him and he's over here like



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Yeah I think she's supposed to be serious in her line of work though. You're right though, it would be nice to see her lighten up once and a while. I think there needs to be a character like her though. It definitely makes sense if you just don't like her personality. Maybe that's what everybody hates about her.... I don't know. I always liked her but I see tons of hate for whatever reason.


Yeah, I usually like the comic relief character or a character I have something in common with. Which is neither of those when it comes to her.
I can't speak for all the other haters though. XD
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