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Concerning Japan's new anti-piracy project
Posted 8/18/14

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VeXxCoRe wrote:

ok here is how im closing this forum, when i said everything, it was under my perception of optimism, since i know people have different tastes in the content they watch, and as for the other half, that was all my opinion and everyone needs to shut up about it, cause it aint changing


Opinion or not, that's not really how this works. You voice an opinion and people are probably going to respond. If you don't want responses, don't post or ignore the responses.


to be frank, there has been either comments that aren't at all related to the topic, or a lot of you premium members being a bunch of naysayers, so as my opinion stands and it still cannot be changed i still stand by what i said, and as you have read, because frankly you seem to be the only one actually following the flow of this forum topic, im not asking for literally every anime in the bloody world, nor am i saying that the premium privileges should be abolished outright, even without the premium anime and manga content that seems to have disappeared between when i joined CR and when i started this topic up, you premium members still have the console app, premier episodes for a week, zero ads, and HD resolution, and as we all know Crunchyroll has a on site webstore that helps supplement the costs of liscencing, and i know how a forum and a topic work, finding a moderator to close a thread is a tad bit harder then typing words to people whom have either negative things to say or useless things to say
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Posted 8/18/14

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if Anime and Manga are pretty much only going to be available on here and very few sites i've never heard of, CR you need to acquire every anime and manga, and in addition all premium membership content needs to be changed for poor people like myself, add more commercials or something because frankly i dont mind commercials


The Japanese government will only be avail to stop piracy is the servers are located Japan. If the servers are in another country then could always try to convince another countries government to shut down the servers... But to be honest, I don't think they'll bother whit that.

Also, torrents won't be stopped as long as people keep seeding a torrent.

And why should they add more adds. Adds doesn't nervelessly give them more money that can be spent on anime, since they license shows from companies such as Aniplex, Production I.G etc. and if they find out that CR has more money then before then they WILL increase the license costs for CR so that they can make a bigger profit off of it.

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Posted 8/18/14 , edited 8/18/14

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VeXxCoRe wrote:

if Anime and Manga are pretty much only going to be available on here and very few sites i've never heard of, CR you need to acquire every anime and manga, and in addition all premium membership content needs to be changed for poor people like myself, add more commercials or something because frankly i dont mind commercials


The Japanese government will only be avail to stop piracy is the servers are located Japan. If the servers are in another country then could always try to convince another countries government to shut down the servers... But to be honest, I don't think they'll bother whit that.

Also, torrents won't be stopped as long as people keep seeding a torrent.

And why should they add more adds. Adds doesn't nervelessly give them more money that can be spent on anime, since they license shows from companies such as Aniplex, Production I.G etc. and if they find out that CR has more money then before then they WILL increase the license costs for CR so that they can make a bigger profit off of it.




Well, you're half right with the whole anime streaming rights being inflated. However that wouldn't be due to anime companies starting to charge outrageous prices for it, more like the fluctuation and inflation of currency values. There is a big demand for anime, but piracy is a very big thing and Japan can't do much about it, so trying to go short-term economically by charging a huge amount for some shows would in the long run kill their business since

a.) less shows would get streamed and thus less people would be willing to buy the products and as a result, profits go down and the companies would sink and

b.) this is the really big reason, The trust between CR streaming members and japanese studios would be gone. The moment you lose the trust of your buyer, your money is gone and people will go to a different source, legal or otherwise. This would cripple these companies and they know this. It's why instead of Funimation and CR streaming less shows over time, we are seeing more shows being streamed and just getting more money from members isn't the only reason.

Also OP, don't be a jerk to people because they have differing views on your opinion of what free users get (granted some of the replies to your post have been less than kind so I understand your frustration on the matter but cool heads are for the best for everyone involved). You get legal streaming rights as well as a plethora of anime. Only a few select titles are actually premium member only and even then it's either movies or really old anime titles that not many people watch unless they really want to watch it. I don't particularly like the 6.95 per month charge I have for this site BUT it helps maintain the site and helps get new streaming rights to anime and it helps me stay relaxed while going through college for engineering, practically keeping me sane. To me, it's worth paying and I make sure I have enough money for it as well. I can't afford both a funi and CR premium account so i just have one free (funi) and one premium (CR) to do my part for the industry.
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Posted 8/18/14
Whuuut? An American is complaining about the amount of anime on Crunchyroll? Seriously?
Dude, I live in the UK, so a lot of the anime you find on Crunchyroll isn't even available to me because of licensing rights and look at how happy I am: I'm very happy,
actually I'm kinda depressed right now but that's irrelevant.
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Posted 8/18/14

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They negotiate the prices on a show by show basis, meaning that if a big anime company like Production I.G knew CR had more money... Just think about it for a second, if Production I.G increased their license fees for their bigger anime's (like Attack On Titan) but not the smaller once then it wouldn't change a thing and we'd still get as much anime on the site, but more ads/a higher premium subscription.

Also as I said above, laws and regulations won't change the amount of illegal anime out there. The only time it will is if the servers are in Japan since then their police force can basically just raid the place where the servers are. But it's hard to shut down/destroy servers in other countries since the Japanese government don't have access to those servers... They could always try to negotiate whit other governments to make 'em turn off/destroy the servers for them. But since there's nothing for the other government to gain by doing so, I don't see other governments shutting down those servers.

Plus, torrents will still work as long as people keep seeding them.

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i didn't say they are the only streaming site, i said they are the only legal GLOBAL streaming site, meaning they stream outside the U.S and Canada. They have licenses for most regions of the world, unlike alot of sites who only buy licenses for their home country
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Posted 8/18/14
I pay for my membership (well actually my father) and I see no need to add commercials.
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Posted 8/18/14 , edited 8/18/14

VeXxCoRe wrote:

if Anime and Manga are pretty much only going to be available on here and very few sites i've never heard of, CR you need to acquire every anime and manga, and in addition all premium membership content needs to be changed for poor people like myself, add more commercials or something because frankly i dont mind commercials


Crunchyroll is an amazing service. I don't know exactly how you can be complaining if you're not paying. You're not entitled to anything. You're attacking us premium members as being "nay-sayers" while you're sitting here demanding things for free. They get what anime they can, but acquiring licenses can be tough work sometimes. You're lucky you're getting anything at all for free tbh. People always want more than they're getting. -.-"
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Posted 8/18/14
They still haven't done sh*t

When is their supposed plan gonna happen anyway?
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Posted 8/18/14
I would like to keep continuing reading Manga and Light Novels that have not been released in english yet, as well as Anime. Is that really too much to ask for? If for the better, that actually makes me want to buy their content and work. I am trying to get my hands on the SAO light novel because I like the anime, so there is that.
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Posted 8/18/14
I don't see why there are so many complaints over all of this, to be honest, Crunchyroll is lacking a few of the anime im watching this season and quite a lot of anime i want to watch (maybe because i live in the UK?) but really, it's like going to an all-you-can-eat buffet for $7 and complaining because they don't have a certain food. If you want it that badly, there are ways to get it, but don't knock CR just because they don't have the things you want. This is exactly the same for premium "perks".
I've been watching CR for a few years and I've only just decided to buy premium because of the rapidly expanding anime they now have to offer, and it will only get better as relationships with japanese production companies improve further. I can't watch Hulu at all, and I have quite a few anime blocked for me due to where I live, but it's only going to get better if I support it and pay towards the growth of these sites.
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Posted 8/18/14
Doesn't bother me. Ever since I got my first job when I was a teen, I've been getting all my anime and manga legally.
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Posted 8/18/14
I don't think it is going to work. There is still going to piracy, no matter what they do.
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Posted 8/18/14 , edited 8/18/14

VeXxCoRe wrote:


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VeXxCoRe wrote:

thing is and this is for you premium members really, im not saying get rid of all your premium perks, you can still have your HD content, your ad-free...dom, and your week of the newest episode, im just saying and there is premium only content btw, make it available for everyone...and lets not forget about the Crunchyroll app either, non-premium members can only watch the sample videos so you guys can watch your anime on the TV through a console...or if your TV is connected to the internet you premium members keep that too so stop complaining like "Oh, your asking us to drop all our privileges, you don't think about anyone but yourself" ...that statement does make you seem like a monster so yeah no offence to you but if you think that, try making a new account and see it from a non-premium perspective


What you do not seem to understand is that Crunchyroll is not a site here to quench your anime cravings, it's a service. There has to be some kind of incentive for people to pay for this service, otherwise the business will not make any money. Heck, Crunchyroll is even generous in this exchange, giving even those who do not pay free access to most of their tittles.


i stand by my words...people, and if you want to argue about a difference in opinion go ahead but it wont change the way i think, anyways ppl are lazy and will buy whatever it takes to make things easier for them, and frankly if you can't realize hat your a fool. also Crunchyroll is a site where people can watch anime, its better then those mediocre free sites that are very sketchy, so i agree they deserve a little money, it is not too much to ask that those who cannot afford a membership be capable of watching E.G. seasons 1-13 of Bleach and as i put in my first statement, just add more commercials or something, put a half-way point survey to keep up with funds...would it be that hard to compromise


This topic, really this whole thread is a testament to your obstinate, entitled, shut out anyone who is not singing your praises attitude. You pay nothing...you pay nothing. YOU PAY NOTHING. You literally get to watch anime for free a week after it comes out. FOR FREE. You literally do nothing to deserve or merit the free service CR provides to you. This is not an "opinion" this is a fact, you've admitted as much yourself.

Instead of going out of your way to budget better, or scrounging up seven dollars a month. You instead you want them to go out of their way, have someone take time out of their day to secure more deals for ads to please you. So you can get what you want...for free. You aren't willing to sacrifice to make seven more dollars a month, but they should sacrifice their time for you? You contribute nothing and even still get SOMETHING, and that's not good enough. This is coming from a man?!? A 24 year old man? Good Lord.

It's almost akin to begging someone for food while starving and complaining because they didn't go out their way to get you that pizza you wanted.

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Posted 8/18/14

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I don't think it is going to work. There is still going to piracy, no matter what they do.


The truth.
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