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The "I-want-to-become-stronger" male character type (or achetype)
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First they were introduced themselves as losers, who want an ordinary life in peace. THE NEXT DAY THEY BECOME (LIKE A BOSS) SUPERHUMAN BADASS POWERFUL UNSTOPPABLE PEOPLE FROM NOWHERE!

Are they competent? What are their true purposes? Being strong is so important for them? Is it because they want to protect the girls they love or to stand out above all from the others? Or they have jealousy or envy the power?


Anime, character, his main goal and why?
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Because it's easy to write.
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That archetype is just so that the audience can relate to the MC. They are weak and normal like the average viewer/reader and building that character empowers the audience making them think "Hey! That can be me!" It's very easy to sell these types of story lines.
Posted 8/2/14
they wanna show it off obviously
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Alot of them are pretty... boring.. except for Gon Freecs. Who starts of at a kind of bare basic strength statistic in the grand scheme of things, and grows throughout the entire series due to his undeniable desire to find his father; and his best friend Killua pushing him along the way.

I Find these characters are often used as a way the viewer can connect with the protagonist in some way. We all have dreams that we wish to achieve, while many of us lack the means to achieve them. These characters are a sort of.. inspiration. They start off at a similar place the average person is in, and through sheer determination and willpower, push against the odds and dedicate themselves to achieving their dreams. Which if you think about it, is basically the creators telling us.. dont give up on your dreams and to achieve them by any means necessary.
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Because unless the main character wants to become stronger,
he/she will end up sitting leisurely with friends and discussing which end of the choco cornet to eat first.
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"Hard work and determination pay off. It helps you achieve success for you and your family. Just look at -insert archetype character-!"
Posted 8/2/14

AzazelOfNexium wrote:

Alot of them are pretty... boring.. except for Gon Freecs. Who starts of at a kind of bare basic strength statistic in the grand scheme of things, and grows throughout the entire series due to his undeniable desire to find his father; and his best friend Killua pushing him along the way.

I Find these characters are often used as a way the viewer can connect with the protagonist in some way. We all have dreams that we wish to achieve, while many of us lack the means to achieve them. These characters are a sort of.. inspiration. They start off at a similar place the average person is in, and through sheer determination and willpower, push against the odds and dedicate themselves to achieving their dreams. Which if you think about it, is basically the creators telling us.. dont give up on your dreams and to achieve them by any means necessary.


his desire is to show off to his dad, that he's worth it and to prove to him that he is the cool son he can be
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I agree.

Furthermore, we get to see Gon's vulnerability a lot. That in the end, he's still just human and a child. He's very stubborn and naïve, yet sincere at the same time.

I also like the contrast between Gon and Killua; killua is the more cunning one, yet we also see his softer side as a brother. And he's probably the most humane assassin out of all the Zoldyck family members...
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gon is more of the "I WON"T FORGIVE YOU." type
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Indeed, to be honest. I think one of the major points as to why Hunter X Hunter is so good when it comes to characters, is the relationship between Gon and Killua, and the differences in their character. Both of them can be considered leading main characters, since they both seem to share the roll quite well.

On that same point. Its characters like these, that also make people realize how important a strong friendship can be when trying to get stronger in life. They play off of each others strengths and weaknesses and each push each other further and further.

I find that out of the whole "i want to get stronger" and "shonen lead" archetype, they are definitely the most interesting and well written
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AzazelOfNexium wrote:


I agree.

Furthermore, we get to see Gon's vulnerability a lot. That in the end, he's still just human and a child. He's very stubborn and naïve, yet sincere at the same time.

I also like the contrast between Gon and Killua; killua is the more cunning one, yet we also see his softer side as a brother. And he's probably the most humane assassin out of all the Zoldyck family members...


i talked to both gon and killua and they say that you're lying.
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It's lazy writing. That's one of the problems I had with bleach. It seemed like Ichigo powered up ridiculously in such a small amount of time and I found it pretty ridiculous.

But to be fair, most shounen heroes tend to fall under this architype. The exception I think is Gon, as people have mentioned. We really get to see how hard he's worked and also the consequences of him beating neferpitou, making it more realistic.
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galdris wrote:

That archetype is just so that the audience can relate to the MC. They are weak and normal like the average viewer/reader and building that character empowers the audience making them think "Hey! That can be me!" It's very easy to sell these types of story lines.


Three posts in and we've already got a bingo. Nothing to do now but rack up examples to discuss, which is fun in and of itself. I love character studies!

I'll offer up Kenichi Shirahama of Kenichi the Mightiest Disciple fame.

His motivations for becoming a more skilled martial artist are plain and readily accessible to the audience: he wants to impress an attractive classmate who has extensive martial arts experience, he wants to be able to live according to his own sense of justice, and he is under constant threat of attack by unscrupulous characters who just so happen to do nothing but fight. In other words, Kenichi is pretty generic and unoriginal. He has the same cookie cutter merits and demerits, interests and distastes, and worldview of the bulk of shounen action comedy main protagonists.

As for his competence, it's scaled and paced just about as it needs to be for his story to work. It's nothing special, more or less a Karate Kid knockoff, but Kenichi the Mightiest Disciple manages to stay engaging and entertaining enough to keep people who enjoy that sort of comedy watching all the way through. That includes me, by the way, though I personally self-insert as Kisara Nanjou.

All told, from the technical side of things Kenichi and the anime about him are pretty mediocre and unoriginal. That said, the writers did hit all the proper cues, paced things correctly, and remained attentive to their target audience's expectations and wants throughout the story. The characters are likable (for the most part), the music is decently chosen (if a bit repetitive), this is a solid entry in its genre. It's just nothing unique or special. It deserves its four star rating (or about 83%) on IMDB, and I'd say the same about its protagonist.

If it ain't broke, I guess.
Posted 8/2/14
gon is 1 in a million so i don't know what you're on about people, far from basic even at the beginning
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