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Posted 8/6/14 , edited 8/6/14

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Felstalker wrote:
Part of the appeal of the big ones is the endless content


But endless fillers


Bleach - 366 episodes, 164 filler (45%)
Naruto / Naruto Shippuden - 220 episodes, 92 filler (42%) / 370 episodes, 142 filler (38%)
Fairy Tail - 193 episodes, 35 filler (18%)
One Piece - 655 episodes, 100 filler (15%)

For Bleach & Naruto, I would have to agree with that statement. Not so much with Fairy Tail or One Piece. Sure 100 episodes of Filler seems like a lot but not when you put it against the number of canon episodes in One Piece, and Fairy Tail is doing a good job of keeping filler out of the series as well.

As to the subject of the topic, no I don't think that Hunter x Hunter is quite at the point to be among the "Big 3". It doesn't yet have the episode count, or the massive popularity. It's a great series but I don't see it at quite that point, it is getting there but only if the manga doesn't go on another hiatus. If any series is at the point of reaching into the "Big 3" it would be Fairy Tail replacing Bleach.
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DBZ was never that a big deal


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One Piece is super-popular, but I never hear anyone talk about liking One Piece unless they are heavily in to anime. It doesn't seem to appeal to casual anime viewers (Once again in my experience)



I think the 4 kids dub is the most likely explanation to that. It had to set the series back a ways in popularity just by being associated with them.


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As to the subject of the topic, no I don't think that Hunter x Hunter is quite at the point to be among the "Big 3". It doesn't yet have the episode count, or the massive popularity. It's a great series but I don't see it at quite that point, it is getting there but only if the manga doesn't go on another hiatus. If any series is at the point of reaching into the "Big 3" it would be Fairy Tail replacing Bleach.


As more of a casual (aka not hardcore) fan I'd agree with that, first time I heard of HxH was here on Crunchyroll's main page. Fairy Tail I was a fan of before ever hearing of Crunchyroll.
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akaReflex wrote:
DBZ is probably the most popular of the three (in my experience) because as kids, my generation grew up with it and still love it.

Then it would be Naruto. Most of my friends could only name one anime (because they consider DBZ and Pokemon to be "cartoons" not anime) and it would be Naruto.

One Piece is super-popular, but I never hear anyone talk about liking One Piece unless they are heavily in to anime. It doesn't seem to appeal to casual anime viewers (Once again in my experience)



First off, were of the same Generation


Dragonball Z still has new games and movies coming out. I saw Battle of the Gods in theaters today, it was far far better than anyone realizes.

Naruto is a strong runner. Its anime is filler heavy, but the Manga has a solid wealth of value to it. Even ic it gets stupid.

Saying One Piece isn't popular because your friends don't talk about it is like saying "What is this football? its obviously not popular or oda heard my friends talk about it."

One Piece is huge in Japan, a popular and high quality franchise right there. It lacks overseas appeal due to a rather poor dub attempt by K4Kids, who were forced tobuy it.

HxH is on constant Hiatus and has a great yet preservative Anime studio animating it. Good luck getting a proper English Dub, bufit could go so very far with a dub too.
If HxH wasn't always on hiatus then it would pick up in popularity.
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I'l agree with DBZ, Naruto, Bleach and One Piece. Hunter X Hunter could make it in my opinion. I,m not sure about Fairy tail (Watched 19 episodes ans stopped).
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The big 10, lol.
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I'd be fine with Toriko taking the place of either Narito or Bleach's place Shonen Jump's Big 3. This does mean that Gintama still won't make it, though.
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The reason DBZ is often overlooked and wasn't included in the initial coining of the term "The Big 3" is because its initial run had ended as Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece began to increase in massive popularity. It certainly is on par with them in terms of popularity and merchandise now but it took awhile because during it's initial run anime wasn't nearly as popular with people outside Japan as it is these days.

Not to mention, the only way for the massive majority of people to watch DBZ back during it's run was one episode a day on Toonami during the week.
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One Piece, Bleach and Naruto have always been the big three to me. Since there are no new episodes of Bleach, I can't modify my image of the big three.
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anikevin wrote:

One Piece, Bleach and Naruto have always been the big three to me. Since there are no new episodes of Bleach, I can't modify my image of the big three.


Having read the manga, Bleach will get really awesome if they animated the arc in future. Though I'm afraid about the future of naruto anime.
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Overyodel wrote:


Siawo wrote:

DBZ was never that a big deal


wat


it was popular as fuck, but storywise is shit
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Brakkis wrote:

The reason DBZ is often overlooked and wasn't included in the initial coining of the term "The Big 3" is because its initial run had ended as Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece began to increase in massive popularity. It certainly is on par with them in terms of popularity and merchandise now but it took awhile because during it's initial run anime wasn't nearly as popular with people outside Japan as it is these days.

Not to mention, the only way for the massive majority of people to watch DBZ back during it's run was one episode a day on Toonami during the week.


WHAT!? DBZ was massively popular in the west (America), in Japan YuYu Hakusho was more popular than DBZ
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The big snore is more like it.
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Siawo wrote:


Brakkis wrote:

The reason DBZ is often overlooked and wasn't included in the initial coining of the term "The Big 3" is because its initial run had ended as Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece began to increase in massive popularity. It certainly is on par with them in terms of popularity and merchandise now but it took awhile because during it's initial run anime wasn't nearly as popular with people outside Japan as it is these days.

Not to mention, the only way for the massive majority of people to watch DBZ back during it's run was one episode a day on Toonami during the week.


WHAT!? DBZ was massively popular in the west (America), in Japan YuYu Hakusho was more popular than DBZ


DBZ was massively popular with the people in America that actually watched anime. That portion of people, in the 90's until the early 2000's, was very low.

Anime didn't become such a hit with teens and young adults in America until around 05'-06' when the Big 3 became the Big 3 with the rise in popularity of Bleach and Naruto and Funimation taking the reigns of One Piece after 4Kids dropped it. Along with Adult Swim and Toonami airing a much larger amount of anime during that time, people really began to get into it. Couple that with the massive increase in illegal fansub groups that came about during that time and you have the rise of the anime generation.

Basically during DBZ's run, 5 out of every 100 people liked anime, and it was hugely popular with those 5 people. Nowadays you could feasibly say 50 out of 100 people like anime and DBZ is getting that Nostalgia boost.
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stark700 wrote:

Eh to me, the Big 3 would probably be Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece. I don't count FT or HxH.


I think that too. THe big 3 will forever be those three shows until one of them ends of course. Though, Naruto is the only one that's getting close to the ending. One Piece seems like it keeps on dragging on for fucking ever. Seriously, I would get so tired of it!


TrueGoober wrote:

What about Fairy Tail? Seems much more Big 3-ish to me.

If it doesn't have filler, then HxH is gonna end sort of soon, sadly. That'll bump it out of the running as soon as it gets in.


I thought HxH was getting close to catching up with the manga?
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