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Proving/Disproving Religion
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Posted 8/17/14

JustineKo2 wrote:

Null Hypothesis FTW!

In addition to this aspect there is something else which I think is the reasoning behind theists calling us ingrates. Many of us have reason to feel sorry for theists because of mob mentality: "I want to be accepted and fit in and those around me will only accept me if I subscribe to popular opinion." It is popular because people genuinely fear death and they want reassurance that they'll be able to remain with their loved ones after they die.

Religion feeds off of this fear and has set up an exclusive in-group that persists in being privileged to know the true way of the world. However it is false, the world, the universe exists as it is and too many people paint their view of the world how they want to see it and live their whole lives with false rose-colored glasses not even realizing they're wearing them. This is the sort of pity I have for some, but sometimes that pity is not even worth the effort, meaning those people are not even worth the effort to pity. So why do I bother?


The social side of religion and spirituality doesn't particularly appeal to me, but religion and spirituality do help stave off the fear that one is truly alone, utterly devoid of meaning or purpose, and doomed to vanish upon death. If the act of individually practicing religion and spirituality (that is to say, worshiping but avoiding organized religious institutions and dogmatism) while keeping a scientifically-grounded mind is something worthy of pity, I suppose I accept that pity.
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Posted 8/17/14
I do like to study religion but I don't believe in any of it.
A lot of it contradicts itself or there are big unanswered gaps in the story. Or there just simply enough evidence to support it.
Even though I do not believe in an organized religion, I do have moral standards / beliefs.
Like no killing (with exceptions), karma will come back to bite you in the arsh if you deserve it, respect others, take care of your family,etc etc, things like that.
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Posted 8/31/14 , edited 9/12/14
The goal of science should be solely focused on discovering how the universe works, not on disproving religions that try to assert the truth.
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LONGNAMEYOUWONTMISS wrote:

The goal of science should be solely focused on discovering how the universe works, not on disproving religions that try to assert the truth.
Many of the claims made by the religious trespass on the territory of science overtly, making it difficult to avoid addressing that which falls into science's purview.

For example, if you believe the account of creation dictated in Genesis, you're essentially saying to Stephen Hawking, "Look, Stephen, I know you got a lot of equations over there... But this book, we will should ponder over what these sheep herders wrote at the conclusion of the Bronze Age."
Posted 9/15/14 , edited 9/15/14
You can't prove or disprove a faith-based system , since the whole idea of religion rests on faith in belief in the unseen immaterial universe beyond spacetime..Either you do, or you dont. I find it ludicrous that protestan christian fundamentalists manipulate scripture as "evidence" of this, or that. If you want to be religious, you have to believe in the doctrine without further need for proof, scientific or otherwise. If you can't do it, this isn't the Inquisition, you don't have to.
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Posted 9/15/14

Zeboim wrote:

You can't prove or disprove a faith-based system , since the whole idea of religion rests on faith in belief in the unseen immaterial universe beyond spacetime..Either you do, or you dont. I find it ludicrous that protestan christian fundamentalists manipulate scripture as "evidence" of this, or that. If you want to be religious, you have to believe in the doctrine without further need for proof, scientific or otherwise. If you can't do it, this isn't the Inquisition, you don't have to.


Disproving religion and making believers realize that what they believe in is bullshit are two different things.
For instance, geocentrism and creationism have both been long since disproven. And yet, there are still people who believe in it.
Posted 9/17/14
Thats what I said
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Posted 10/9/14
Closed because OP nuked. Fell free to start a similar thread if there isn't another one.
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