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Creativity is becoming rare?
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Posted 8/11/14
Hey CR.

I have been wondering to myself for a while now. What has happened to creativity?
what has happened to shows like Evangelion, Ghost in the shell, Cowboy bebop?
what has happened to soundtracks like Nobue Uematsu and Susumu Hirasawa?

While there are alot of creative shows and soundtracks still coming out, notable mentions being Psycho-Pass, Kill La Kill, Akame Ga Kill and Space Dandy +(Various other shows by, Shaft, kyoto-animations, TRIGGER, A1) Then we have the wonderful Hiroyuki Sawano, producing some epic orchestral music for Aldnoah Zero, Shingeki No Kyjoin and Kill La Kill.

It seems however... alot of recent anime's and soundtracks have been becoming less and less creative and out of the box.

The amount of plot-less garbage harem anime is becoming far to much. It seems as if studio's are relying on breasts and abs to progress the story. While those things in moderation can add another layer to the show, it seems as if its becoming a crutch to rely on. "oh well, we dont know how to develop this plot point, so lets just have her pull her boobies out".

As an avid anime fan, its slightly annoying. I miss the glory days of shows that had me at the edge of my seat, not shows that tried to get me to shove my hand down my pants.

There are still shows that are really brilliant and well done, the one this season that has sparked this topic was "Zankyou No terror" which is probably one of the edgiest shows this season after Akame ga kill, but it is most definitely the most well written and scripted.


What is everyone's opinion on the current state of anime? is it getting better? is it getting worse? has it even changed at all? are their shows that you wish other shows could match in quality?

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Posted 8/11/14 , edited 8/11/14
There's always been garbage shows, they just move from trope to trope until it crash and burns.
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I got to boobies. Then I lost focus.
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I could dig around for the link, but I remember once watching a video of Vic Mignogna urging people not to illegally stream anime, because it pulls money away from the anime industry. He went further on to say that many people want to make interesting and complex anime but it's the lack of money from them that stops it from happening. There isn't just not having money in it, he said that the industry is actually struggling (I think). I'll go find the video if I can, but I wanted to type this up first, I saw the video so long ago I think it'll take me a long while and I just wanted to put my two cents in.
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Well there's been a lot of anime, it's getting harder and harder to to be more creative because a lot of things have been done. Like I'm sure we could all think of something never done before right now, but try actually implementing it and making an anime/manga. Of course someone eventually gets it right and makes something great but we can't expect authors and artists to make something new and good with every release.

And of course, who wants to take a risk? Especially when you could use an idea that's been used before and assume it will bring in some viewers and fans.

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Posted 8/11/14
it's about the same as it's ever been
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There have always been shite shows and the occasional good one. Creators are in the industry to make money, so they'll make what sells. Why take a risk with some perplexing plot when big boobs and fanservice will bring in the sales for a fraction of the effort? Sex sells. That's the way it is with everything. The current audience for anime is teenagers so what better way to sell a show than with highschool and bewbz? There's a logic behind why they make what they make and, regardless of how much we may or may not like it, so long as it sells it ain't going away.
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I think a lot of people forget that anime is about taste, just like movies.
There's so many creative, well done shows nowadays as well. I'm not sure about you but most people aren't capable of viewing animes without subtitles/dubs, if you are you'll notice the amount of shows with great content.

The popular shows are usually, just like "normal" movies, more hyped up than they should be... and people happen to focus more on them than the shows with better content. I don't think that anime is getting worse, but the technology has developed a lot since back in the day and it's much easier to make anime quick now, there's so many animes that are being made so you can't really judge the production unless you spend hours and hours daily watching every single anime. There's so many different categories, and not even a vast majority is subbed / dubbed.

I'll complain the day I'm no longer entertained. I still find myself being mesmerized and dragged into the fantasy world. Personally I don't care too much about intro songs, but I spend quite some time on viewing graphics, voice actors and analyzing the storyline.
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Cliches are becoming more popular than anything with originality.
Posted 8/11/14
I'm gonna call malarkey and I'll explain why.


Almost all media and entertainment nowadays is felled by the same affliction. I don't know, I'll call it necrotizing pastitis. People want to be in the past, so everything from the past seems so much better than what is really is. It's not to say things increase or decrease in quality. It's like our minds are just prone to say "Anything currents sucks, everything from the past is great".

I think the most applicable example is hardcore. Hardcore fans are evenly divided by those who believe anything past the early/mid-90's is complete trash, while others, like me, argue there's a lot of amazing bands that are carrying on the legacy and tradition while being unique and contemporary. If you're gonna compare, something will always seem lesser. If you just like both eras for what they're worth, you'll enjoy it.

To directly answer you, creativity has always been rare. People think they're creative all the time, making things that a lot will say is utter crap and others will say is amazing. It's all perspective and in the eye of the beholder I guess.
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Cliches? Many anime cliches feel like themes to me.
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Posted 8/11/14 , edited 8/12/14
I have noticed one thing become more prevalent though, and that is self indulging harem shows.

If you go back to the 80's and 90's we had a few harem-ish shows. There was Urusei-Yatsura and Ranma 1/2. Tenchi Muyo of course. Also dating sim animes like To Heart.

Both Urusei Yatsura and Ranma though had a wide variety of characters and situations though. If you take Ranma, he had like 4 or 5 female love interests, he had at least 1 male interest, he had a crap load of rivals who were main characters and presented as friends at times. He had a weird ass family who were also main characters. It was not self indulging at all.

Tenchi Muyo was quite self indulging, but there were also a wide variety of male characters who were treated with respect in the show. Tenchi wasn't the only guy in the universe.

As far as To Heart goes for dating sims. It was a very calm show. The romance was primarily between the main character and main heroine, and for the most part everyone helped out the supporting cast. The main characters best friend even had a love interest *gasp*.

Basically the 80's and 90's were a time when the 'harem scene' animes still had one foot in the door of realistic character relationships.

Now though the market has become super saturated with main characters who have like 10 girls fall in love with them and dote over them no matter what. You have no secondary male characters that are treated with respect. Everything is completely focused around the main character being the only desirable guy in the universe.

I've noticed that an industry tends to do its best work at its outset, before it knows what people like, because then it tries out a whole bunch of different things. Once it knows what people like, it only makes what people like, and that just becomes stale.
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Posted 8/11/14 , edited 8/12/14
If we apply game theorist to this then I think that is my answer as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxhs-GLE29Q&index=24&list=UUo_IB5145EVNcf8hw1Kku7w

tl;dr or dw - money. Repetition, sells. If it ain't broke don't fix it, kind of motto.
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Posted 8/11/14 , edited 8/13/14

AiShiteruIkuto wrote:
but the technology has developed a lot since back in the day and it's much easier to make anime quick now,


I think this actually explains a lot. I marvel at each season where there are dozens on new series released. Back when it took more time and money to get a series out studios had to go with a franchise or creators that had a proven track record. Putting out a flop would devastate a studio.

It's rather like the book industry. When big publishing houses were the only game around they picked books and authors that they knew could succeed because of the cost of publishing and advertising a novel. Now with places like Amazon allowing any author to sell their books the market is flooded with mediocre titles. It's not that there aren't great stories out there. It's just they're harder to find.
Posted 8/11/14
Yeah...what happened to the good animes like Berserk, monster, fantastic children, legend of the galatic heroes, etc ? Nowadays is only fanservice and harems. I don't watch a lot of anime for that reason, right now I'm only enjoying sankyou no terror and free! sankyou no terror reminds me of EVA...I don't know why but that's mainly the reason why I like it.
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