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Why does it seem like every anime is based on charcters that are on highschool?

I got my hands on a copy of the series that seems most interesting and so far it's really good. i just cant stand that because it is older i have to wath a version that has the left and right side of screens cut off like i was watching some old block tv. I really wish there was a version that was meant to be watched in wide screen. if anyone knows of a copy or a way to get it with a better format please help me!

oh yeah it's neon genisis evangelion
kind of a crucial piece of information to leave out lol
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what is BD?...
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Fate/Zero got no High School bro..... ya might like it.
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Ampz, yes, they are.

And no, there's not, the series was made prior to HD so it is formatted for old TV viewing, also in an era when recording to video was more prevalent than film so there's very unlikely to be a high quality film transfer. SD will probably be the best you can find, though there's alot of, well, "vendors" claiming they have HD transfers.
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Posted 8/12/14 , edited 8/12/14

AmpzTheGreat wrote:

what is BD?...


Blu ray.
Although this is not always the answer.

I have several Blu Ray releases of older anime which are still in the old fashioned 4:3 CRT scale, simply because the anime was made that way.
Considering the Evangelion series is one of these older titles (the reboot movies not counted) there is a big chance you have no other choice than to watch that in the old fashioned CRT scale.

As for your complaint about the amount of high school aged children in anime, you'll notice that this counts for a lot of anime.
Most anime is still made to cater the age groups of high school children (13~19), even though we in the west might think differently.
The same goes for manga, although manga is accepted on a much broader scale in Japan (basically every age group).

There are plenty of good titles that do not involve high school kids, by the way.
But for those I gladly point you to this thread.
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Ampz, yes, they are.

And no, there's not, the series was made prior to HD so it is formatted for old TV viewing, also in an era when recording to video was more prevalent than film so there's very unlikely to be a high quality film transfer. SD will probably be the best you can find, though there's alot of, well, "vendors" claiming they have HD transfers.


i was trying to decide if i should just go buy a box set but there isn't any... the only ones i found for sale are from... well i guess "collectors" and the cheapest I found was $300 or more...
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You'll find that it is not only High School, but specifically the second year, or 11th Grade in the States. Japan seems to be in love with 17 year olds, but there are some reasons for this. Here are my guesses:

1. Character design is far easier when everyone is in uniform.
2. 17 is solidly in the target demographic for the majority of anime and manga.
3. 17 is the "year of freedom" It's as mature as you can be and still be free. Seniors, college students, and Salary men (or women) are locked into their lives with very little free time for love and what not and they have very little freedom to change their lives. High School seniors are very focused on college exams, they usually stop club activities and other distractions.
4. That's the way everybody else does it. It takes guts to think outside the box.
5. Uniform fetishes. Otaku spend money.

The good news is that there is a surprising amount of variety in these High School settings. Slapstick comedies and rom-coms on one hand and demon hunters and zombie apocalypses on the other. The bad news is that many of the better non-high school animes are older and compared to modern titles look like crap. You can't have everything.

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George_z wrote:


AmpzTheGreat wrote:

what is BD?...


Blu ray.
Although this is not always the answer.

I have several Blu Ray releases of older anime which are still in the old fashioned 4:3 CRT scale, simply because the anime was made that way.
Considering the Evangelion series is one of these older titles (the reboot movies not counted) there is a big chance you have no other choice than to watch that in the old fashioned CRT scale.

As for your complaint about the amount of high school aged children in anime, you'll notice that this counts for a lot of anime.
Most anime is still made to cater the age groups of high school children (13~19), even though we in the west might think differently.
The same goes for manga, although manga is accepted on a much broader scale in Japan (basically every age group).

There are plenty of good titles that do not involve high school kids, by the way.
But for those I gladly point you to this thread.


Thank you for the help. it's just disappointing because from what I understand is that the first movie that is in HD widescreen format is just a compilation of scenes FROM the series... so what i'm getting at is that if they ould change the format of those scenes to make a hd widescreen formant movie, why couldn't they do that for the entire episodes that those scenes came from?
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Well_Spoken_Man wrote:

You'll find that it is not only High School, but specifically the second year, or 11th Grade in the States. Japan seems to be in love with 17 year olds, but there are some reasons for this. Here are my guesses:

1. Character design is far easier when everyone is in uniform.
2. 17 is solidly in the target demographic for the majority of anime and manga.
3. 17 is the "year of freedom" It's as mature as you can be and still be free. Seniors, college students, and Salary men (or women) are locked into their lives with very little free time for love and what not and they have very little freedom to change their lives. High School seniors are very focused on college exams, they usually stop club activities and other distractions.
4. That's the way everybody else does it. It takes guts to think outside the box.
5. Uniform fetishes. Otaku spend money.

The good news is that there is a surprising amount of variety in these High School settings. Slapstick comedies and rom-coms on one hand and demon hunters and zombie apocalypses on the other. The bad news is that many of the better non-high school animes are older and compared to modern titles look like crap. You can't have everything.



It's not that I can't stand to watch something that isn't hd 1080p blah blah blah... if you look at my reply to the other post about the ration of evangelion. they have the ability to change the format because they did it to the scenes in the movie that is honestly just scenes taken from the series...

on another note! I'm really enjoying sword art online and yes they are in school and young BUT! so far i haven't seen anything that deals with school life or any kinds of scenes where they are in school

p.s. idk why the anime school thing bothers me so much but it does
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Posted 8/12/14 , edited 8/12/14

AmpzTheGreat wrote:
Thank you for the help. it's just disappointing because from what I understand is that the first movie that is in HD widescreen format is just a compilation of scenes FROM the series... so what i'm getting at is that if they ould change the format of those scenes to make a hd widescreen formant movie, why couldn't they do that for the entire episodes that those scenes came from?


Money.
Revamping an entire tv series to a 16:9/16:10 format is extremely costly.

Apart from that, the Evangelion movies, while I am pretty sure that scenes from the tv series have been used, is anything but a simple cut and paste from the old TV series.
It's pretty safe to say that it's pretty much a standalone story based on the TV series.
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Well_Spoken_Man wrote:

2. 17 is solidly in the target demographic for the majority of anime and manga.

The good news is that there is a surprising amount of variety in these High School settings. Slapstick comedies and rom-coms on one hand and demon hunters and zombie apocalypses on the other. The bad news is that many of the better non-high school animes are older and compared to modern titles look like crap. You can't have everything.



To add to this well spoken argument.

Japan is obsessed with high school. Its that young but old feeling. The romance and shit.
Neat piece of knowledge, Go Nagai is the pioneer of a high school setting. He set his wildly popular Harechi Gakkuen, Shameless School in English. Inside a highschool where perverted boys tried to do classic pervert things. First Ecchi AJD high school!

It applies to a lot of demographics, its proven popular.

Additionally, its easy for character development. The kid who is just about to turn into an adult? Perfect age! Add in the famously cool uniforms, which always look good, and you got a good show.


Try to find non-highschool anime if you want. Fantasy and historical. You can go check out Genshiken for a good college set anime.

Posted 8/12/14
most anime is based on manga. manga is written for high school aged students. most people in japan will be surprised if you are above 20 and still read manga.

I often get comments here in Sydney, "Oh you still read picture books?"... at least call it comic, damn it... I'm not a 5 year old!
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most anime is based on manga. manga is written for high school aged students. most people in japan will be surprised if you are above 20 and still read manga.

I often get comments here in Sydney, "Oh you still read picture books?"... at least call it comic, damn it... I'm not a 5 year old!


haha that last part

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I will join in on this rant. I feel like I am getting old. Like I am becoming a disgruntled old man out of touch with the 'kids.'

I can go back and watch animes from the 80's, 90's, and early to mid 2000's and still be completely entertained, but I find a lot of the anime I see today either needlessly melodramatic or just plainly stupid. However, people in their teens and early 20's seem to eat this stuff up. I often hear comments about how boring some of the animes I enjoyed most in my youth are from these people. Harem animes back in my day were usually comedy / action animes with harem elements in them like Tenchi Muyo or Vandread, or even Love Hina. Today they are Harem animes with comedy and action elements in them, the focus shifted from the comedy and action, to the harem and perpetually undeveloped romance. Who is a better 'waifu' has become more important than what the story itself is... GET OFF MY YARD YOU DARN KIDS!
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