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Posted 8/12/14

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I will join in on this rant. I feel like I am getting old. Like I am becoming a disgruntled old man out of touch with the 'kids.'

I can go back and watch animes from the 80's, 90's, and early to mid 2000's and still be completely entertained, but I find a lot of the anime I see today either needlessly melodramatic or just plainly stupid. However, people in their teens and early 20's seem to eat this stuff up. I often hear comments about how boring some of the animes I enjoyed most in my youth are from these people. Harem animes back in my day were usually comedy / action animes with harem elements in them like Tenchi Muyo or Vandread, or even Love Hina. Today they are Harem animes with comedy and action elements in them, the focus shifted from the comedy and action, to the harem and perpetually undeveloped romance. Who is a better 'waifu' has become more important than what the story itself is... GET OFF MY YARD YOU DARN KIDS!


lmao! I kinda get what you mean because I am close to your age but at the same time I never had any interest in spending my own time watching an anime until about a week ago... seems like people my age(mid twenties) who watch anime have for a long time. Doubt you or I will run into anyone our age range who just now deciding to give anime a chance

Maybe the age thing like you mentioned is why I'm enjoying stuff like ghost in the shell, neon genisis evangelion and samurai champloo? seems more about the story than a romance or something to do with male/female chemistry?...

I will say like i did earlier that I am enjoying and getting into one of these new young kid animes... sword art online. right now it seems to be at a part where romance is a serious part because the last however many episodes he is trying to save is love and blah blah blah... I am hoping that he saves her soon and then everyone can stop being so sad and they can be happy killing things together

"you know back when i was your age!" haha
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I am starting to grow a tad tired of the high school setting, too. I mean it won't stop me from enjoying a series if it is actually truly good(for examples Silver Spoon and Monthly Girls' Nozaki-kun), but I'm getting older, just over a month away from being 25, and it is becoming harder for me to relate with these teen characters. I find myself being drawn more towards shows with characters in their 20s(hello Barakamon!) or some sort of adulthood.
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I am starting to grow a tad tired of the high school setting, too. I mean it won't stop me from enjoying a series if it is actually truly good(for examples Silver Spoon and Monthly Girls' Nozaki-kun), but I'm getting older, just over a month away from being 25, and it is becoming harder for me to relate with these teen characters. I find myself being drawn more towards shows with characters in their 20s(hello Barakamon!) or some sort of adulthood.


us older folks lol are kind of out of our league when it comes to anime but look at video games now. video games use to only be for "kids" and now some of the games that are out tell stories just as good as block buster movies and are aimed at an adult audience
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xxJing wrote:

I will join in on this rant. I feel like I am getting old. Like I am becoming a disgruntled old man out of touch with the 'kids.'

I can go back and watch animes from the 80's, 90's, and early to mid 2000's and still be completely entertained, but I find a lot of the anime I see today either needlessly melodramatic or just plainly stupid. However, people in their teens and early 20's seem to eat this stuff up. I often hear comments about how boring some of the animes I enjoyed most in my youth are from these people. Harem animes back in my day were usually comedy / action animes with harem elements in them like Tenchi Muyo or Vandread, or even Love Hina. Today they are Harem animes with comedy and action elements in them, the focus shifted from the comedy and action, to the harem and perpetually undeveloped romance. Who is a better 'waifu' has become more important than what the story itself is... GET OFF MY YARD YOU DARN KIDS!


lmao! I kinda get what you mean because I am close to your age but at the same time I never had any interest in spending my own time watching an anime until about a week ago... seems like people my age(mid twenties) who watch anime have for a long time. Doubt you or I will run into anyone our age range who just now deciding to give anime a chance


I think I started when I was in 3rd grade. So that would be ~10 years old. That would be 1995-96 ish. I started with Dominion Tank Police. My cousin who is 5 years older than me was watching it and I fell in love. Then I started watching Dragon Ball, DBZ, Sailor Moon, Tekkaman Blade, Samurai Pizza Cats and whatever else was on in the mornings and after school. Then Sci-Fi channel started showing anime movies on Saturdays like Roujin Z, Tenchi Muyo, Fatal Fury, 8 man, Venus Wars... There were a lot of them. So yeah I have been with anime for a long time. I recently watched Card Captor Sakura and Legend of the Galactic Heroes for the first time, and I just loved both of those shows. CCS was like late 90s and LotGH was from like 88-2000, it was a long running series. The style of anime back then felt less uniform, like everyone was trying something different, it felt good to me.

Although oddly enough I have come to appreciate DBZ a little less. I have recently begun to notice how repetitive it is. The voice actors and script writers kind of covered that up though with their clever dialogues and everything though. I still remember when Goku and Piccolo were learning to drive, and Goku was like 'Eat my dust!' and Piccolo replied 'Is that a challenge!?' Those lines actually weren't in the Japanese, it was just silence. The Localization team went to great lengths to make the show feel more organic to an American audience.
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AmpzTheGreat wrote:


xxJing wrote:

I will join in on this rant. I feel like I am getting old. Like I am becoming a disgruntled old man out of touch with the 'kids.'

I can go back and watch animes from the 80's, 90's, and early to mid 2000's and still be completely entertained, but I find a lot of the anime I see today either needlessly melodramatic or just plainly stupid. However, people in their teens and early 20's seem to eat this stuff up. I often hear comments about how boring some of the animes I enjoyed most in my youth are from these people. Harem animes back in my day were usually comedy / action animes with harem elements in them like Tenchi Muyo or Vandread, or even Love Hina. Today they are Harem animes with comedy and action elements in them, the focus shifted from the comedy and action, to the harem and perpetually undeveloped romance. Who is a better 'waifu' has become more important than what the story itself is... GET OFF MY YARD YOU DARN KIDS!


lmao! I kinda get what you mean because I am close to your age but at the same time I never had any interest in spending my own time watching an anime until about a week ago... seems like people my age(mid twenties) who watch anime have for a long time. Doubt you or I will run into anyone our age range who just now deciding to give anime a chance


I think I started when I was in 3rd grade. So that would be ~10 years old. That would be 1995-96 ish. I started with Dominion Tank Police. My cousin who is 5 years older than me was watching it and I fell in love. Then I started watching Dragon Ball, DBZ, Sailor Moon, Tekkaman Blade, Samurai Pizza Cats and whatever else was on in the mornings and after school. Then Sci-Fi channel started showing anime movies on Saturdays like Roujin Z, Tenchi Muyo, Fatal Fury, 8 man, Venus Wars... There were a lot of them. So yeah I have been with anime for a long time. I recently watched Card Captor Sakura and Legend of the Galactic Heroes for the first time, and I just loved both of those shows. CCS was like late 90s and LotGH was from like 88-2000, it was a long running series. The style of anime back then felt less uniform, like everyone was trying something different, it felt good to me.

Although oddly enough I have come to appreciate DBZ a little less. I have recently begun to notice how repetitive it is. The voice actors and script writers kind of covered that up though with their clever dialogues and everything though. I still remember when Goku and Piccolo were learning to drive, and Goku was like 'Eat my dust!' and Piccolo replied 'Is that a challenge!?' Those lines actually weren't in the Japanese, it was just silence. The Localization team went to great lengths to make the show feel more organic to an American audience.


when i was younger i had friends who watched dragonball and some other animes that i watched with them but it never ever interested me

i think that's why i never really gave it a chance... i didn't discover it on my own terms... i only ever saw what other people liked and it turned me off to it
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shouen anime/manga are aimed at teenagers and are pretty much the majority and almost always have a teenager as the MC. other animes like Black Lagoon and Jormungand are seinen which is aimed at older audience. Course sometimes they have teenagers as an MC as well. But if the story is good then whats the problem?
Posted 8/12/14 , edited 8/12/14
Tokyo Ghoul, Baccano!, Elfen Lied (I think), Golden Time, Princess Jellyfish, and Death Note all aren't about high school students. Same goes to Bunny Drop.

The first six (minus the second) are all about college students (I put I think on Elfen Lied cause I couldn't remember if they were in college or not).

Baccano! is mainly about adults, however there are a few kids in the mix (like Czeslaw and Eve).

Bunny Drop is about a guy and a little girl who's technically his little sister (his dad had an affair) and how he raises her.

Spice and Wolf (though I didn't really get into it,) is about adults and I believe Chobits has a college-age protagonist (same goes for Sekirei).

I think you need to get into the seinen and josei genres. Shonen and shojo are mainly the ones about high school students.


Edit: Ah! And Amnesia was about a college girl. The anime was addictive, but it was pretty stupid to be honest.
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Posted 8/12/14 , edited 8/12/14

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it's just disappointing because from what I understand is that the first movie that is in HD widescreen format is just a compilation of scenes FROM the series... so what i'm getting at is that if they ould change the format of those scenes to make a hd widescreen formant movie, why couldn't they do that for the entire episodes that those scenes came from?

I can't be entirely certain without tracking down a few exact comparison shots, but I think the scenes in NGE: Death & Rebirth are cropped from 4:3 to 16:9. So you're actually losing information from each frame in that case, not gaining anything new. It's like when a 16:9 theatrical film is cropped down to a 4:3 home video release except in reverse.

It is possible for animators to go back and affix new "sides" to each frame to make them wider, but that's ridiculously painstaking work in order to get everything to match up properly both visually and in terms of animation, and since the framing of the shot was already in 4:3 there would be nothing to actually see on either side except pointless space.
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A pretty quick way to escape high school settings is to look for non-shoujo and non-harem anime. You'll still find quite a bit in the shonen genre, but not nearly as much to warrant skipping it altogether. Generally, the more gritty and dark anime are much more likely to have little or nothing to do with high school.
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xxJing wrote:

I will join in on this rant. I feel like I am getting old. Like I am becoming a disgruntled old man out of touch with the 'kids.'

I can go back and watch animes from the 80's, 90's, and early to mid 2000's and still be completely entertained, but I find a lot of the anime I see today either needlessly melodramatic or just plainly stupid. However, people in their teens and early 20's seem to eat this stuff up. I often hear comments about how boring some of the animes I enjoyed most in my youth are from these people. Harem animes back in my day were usually comedy / action animes with harem elements in them like Tenchi Muyo or Vandread, or even Love Hina. Today they are Harem animes with comedy and action elements in them, the focus shifted from the comedy and action, to the harem and perpetually undeveloped romance. Who is a better 'waifu' has become more important than what the story itself is... GET OFF MY YARD YOU DARN KIDS!


Preach it! These days, I just skip anything that has a school uniform on the cover/background pic, and it hasn't steered me wrong.
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I fear that one day, anime will degrade to the point where literally every show will be otaku pandering and that all the characters will be from high school.
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xxJing wrote:


AmpzTheGreat wrote:


xxJing wrote:

I will join in on this rant. I feel like I am getting old. Like I am becoming a disgruntled old man out of touch with the 'kids.'

I can go back and watch animes from the 80's, 90's, and early to mid 2000's and still be completely entertained, but I find a lot of the anime I see today either needlessly melodramatic or just plainly stupid. However, people in their teens and early 20's seem to eat this stuff up. I often hear comments about how boring some of the animes I enjoyed most in my youth are from these people. Harem animes back in my day were usually comedy / action animes with harem elements in them like Tenchi Muyo or Vandread, or even Love Hina. Today they are Harem animes with comedy and action elements in them, the focus shifted from the comedy and action, to the harem and perpetually undeveloped romance. Who is a better 'waifu' has become more important than what the story itself is... GET OFF MY YARD YOU DARN KIDS!


lmao! I kinda get what you mean because I am close to your age but at the same time I never had any interest in spending my own time watching an anime until about a week ago... seems like people my age(mid twenties) who watch anime have for a long time. Doubt you or I will run into anyone our age range who just now deciding to give anime a chance


I think I started when I was in 3rd grade. So that would be ~10 years old. That would be 1995-96 ish. I started with Dominion Tank Police. My cousin who is 5 years older than me was watching it and I fell in love. Then I started watching Dragon Ball, DBZ, Sailor Moon, Tekkaman Blade, Samurai Pizza Cats and whatever else was on in the mornings and after school. Then Sci-Fi channel started showing anime movies on Saturdays like Roujin Z, Tenchi Muyo, Fatal Fury, 8 man, Venus Wars... There were a lot of them. So yeah I have been with anime for a long time. I recently watched Card Captor Sakura and Legend of the Galactic Heroes for the first time, and I just loved both of those shows. CCS was like late 90s and LotGH was from like 88-2000, it was a long running series. The style of anime back then felt less uniform, like everyone was trying something different, it felt good to me.

Although oddly enough I have come to appreciate DBZ a little less. I have recently begun to notice how repetitive it is. The voice actors and script writers kind of covered that up though with their clever dialogues and everything though. I still remember when Goku and Piccolo were learning to drive, and Goku was like 'Eat my dust!' and Piccolo replied 'Is that a challenge!?' Those lines actually weren't in the Japanese, it was just silence. The Localization team went to great lengths to make the show feel more organic to an American audience.


Dragon Ball series always try to end the episode sudden point to trick you into watching the next episode that why the series was popular as I remember.I started watching cartoons at that young age myself that didn't know at the time back in the 1984 through whatever wasn't much going when I kept moving from place to place I was lucky to watch reruns on TV mostly Mecha shows.A mutual friend of mine gave me a copy of a Fansub of Fushigi Yûgi.I remember Sci-fi network showed a lot of movies so did Cartoon Network attempted to show on late nights as well. Localization of Anime I remember Techi Muyo VHS tapes was always sold out even the movies were sold out It was harder to find even rare to get the orginal series on DVD.
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Why does it seem like every anime is based on charcters that are on highschool?

I got my hands on a copy of the series that seems most interesting and so far it's really good. i just cant stand that because it is older i have to wath a version that has the left and right side of screens cut off like i was watching some old block tv. I really wish there was a version that was meant to be watched in wide screen. if anyone knows of a copy or a way to get it with a better format please help me!

oh yeah it's neon genisis evangelion
kind of a crucial piece of information to leave out lol


Sorry I think your out of luck I have that anime and it's like that too, except I have an hdtv with a stretch/zoom feature that works somewhat but it cuts out stuff at the top and bottom so it gets annoying.

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Why does it seem like every anime is based on charcters that are on highschool?

japan just really, really likes the last fleeting years of childhood before you life is crushed under the weight of a salaryman's life and you become a hopefully shell of a person, a cog in the machine.

since anime is escapism in general, it makes sense that they'd base it in the brightest shining time of nostalgia...and cash in on the young demographic at the same time.
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I will say that not all anime that comes out today is high school kids. But, also not all of the stuff that has high school kids is bad. My favorite series this season is Barakamon (streaming on Funimation and Hulu). It is a great comedy about an adult and his interactions with the residents of the rural village he has moved to. Admittedly, most of his interactions are with a little girl and a few teenagers. But, so far nothing actually centers around school. And, I find how they are portraying the teenagers as being refreshing. The girls do not wear skimpy/racy swimsuits when they go to the beach. They wear shorts and t-shirts, the way kids did when I was growing up and we went swimming at the local lake. But, every episode the main character does seem to have some fun interaction with adults his age and older too.
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