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Posted 12/18/11

seth9991 wrote:


KnightofMayhem wrote:


KyuuA4 wrote:


polynasian wrote:


First of all I don't want no government to tell me where and how I should spend my money.


So, you'd rather have the BIG BANKS dictate how money is spent? At least, the public can sway government's direction. Banks would simply laugh at your face and spit at you; at the same time, they'd be demanding your money. If you think you're safe from the banks right now, think again. They'll get you eventually.

Enjoy your bliss in the meantime.


Yes, big banks want my money and I will never get it back, they want to steal my money. They trick me by using big words and i cant even withdraw cash...
BIG BANKS... they'll get me with thier ads on tv and special deals

people need to be smart with thier money, and it's thier money

and Big Banks dont own us... China does.
Foolish americans buy cheap stuff from Mao-Mart and basically give thier money to China.

The government controls America, and sometimes the goverment buys out the banks. Dont blame the tellers!

We can only blame ourselves for electing the wrong people for the job.


China does not "own" the United States, they own our Sovereign Debt(Government issued Bonds) We can technically nullify those bonds through the legislative process, and completely liquidate all debts "foreign and domestic." They will never literally own us, because we can say "f---- off" anytime we please. However, that can spark and trade war or even worse.

"The government controls America, and sometimes the goverment buys out the banks. Dont blame the tellers!"

This should be rephrased: "the Federal Reserve owns America, and sometimes the FED buys out the other private banks."

The government is completely under the control of offshore private bankers, specifically the Bank of England (Bank of Rothschild)

After all Mayer Amschel Rothschild once said, "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws."

Educate yourself before responding with a completely ignorant response.
Research my friend... Research....

I think I know when to say I'm not completely correct. You're right, I really didn't do much research at all. Most of that was just me blurting out what I thought I knew. However, I was pretty shocked to learn about the government being under the control of the bank of England. *facepalm*
I'll remember this, and do my research before I post... And I'll try not to sound like I know it all.
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Posted 12/18/11 , edited 12/18/11

KnightofMayhem wrote:


seth9991 wrote:


KnightofMayhem wrote:


KyuuA4 wrote:


polynasian wrote:


First of all I don't want no government to tell me where and how I should spend my money.


So, you'd rather have the BIG BANKS dictate how money is spent? At least, the public can sway government's direction. Banks would simply laugh at your face and spit at you; at the same time, they'd be demanding your money. If you think you're safe from the banks right now, think again. They'll get you eventually.

Enjoy your bliss in the meantime.


Yes, big banks want my money and I will never get it back, they want to steal my money. They trick me by using big words and i cant even withdraw cash...
BIG BANKS... they'll get me with thier ads on tv and special deals

people need to be smart with thier money, and it's thier money

and Big Banks dont own us... China does.
Foolish americans buy cheap stuff from Mao-Mart and basically give thier money to China.

The government controls America, and sometimes the goverment buys out the banks. Dont blame the tellers!

We can only blame ourselves for electing the wrong people for the job.


China does not "own" the United States, they own our Sovereign Debt(Government issued Bonds) We can technically nullify those bonds through the legislative process, and completely liquidate all debts "foreign and domestic." They will never literally own us, because we can say "f---- off" anytime we please. However, that can spark and trade war or even worse.

"The government controls America, and sometimes the goverment buys out the banks. Dont blame the tellers!"

This should be rephrased: "the Federal Reserve owns America, and sometimes the FED buys out the other private banks."

The government is completely under the control of offshore private bankers, specifically the Bank of England (Bank of Rothschild)

After all Mayer Amschel Rothschild once said, "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws."

Educate yourself before responding with a completely ignorant response.
Research my friend... Research....

I think I know when to say I'm not completely correct. You're right, I really didn't do much research at all. Most of that was just me blurting out what I thought I knew. However, I was pretty shocked to learn about the government being under the control of the bank of England. *facepalm*
I'll remember this, and do my research before I post... And I'll try not to sound like I know it all.


The Federal Reserves top share holders are the Rothschild family and the Bank of England. Since they control the vast amount of shares, they, (Bank of England) can break us and make us do their bidding. After all, through Alexander Hamilton, who was also a friend of the Rothschild family, we were able to acquire the credit necessarily to win the Revolutionary war. This credit was acquired by you guessed it; the Rothschild Banking Dynasty.

Also, i'm not trying to be an ass, i'm just trying to clarify some facts. Sorry if my previous response sounded nasty....
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Posted 12/25/11

KnightofMayhem wrote:


KyuuA4 wrote:


polynasian wrote:


First of all I don't want no government to tell me where and how I should spend my money.


So, you'd rather have the BIG BANKS dictate how money is spent? At least, the public can sway government's direction. Banks would simply laugh at your face and spit at you; at the same time, they'd be demanding your money. If you think you're safe from the banks right now, think again. They'll get you eventually.

Enjoy your bliss in the meantime.


Yes, big banks want my money and I will never get it back, they want to steal my money. They trick me by using big words and i cant even withdraw cash...
BIG BANKS... they'll get me with thier ads on tv and special deals

people need to be smart with thier money, and it's thier money

and Big Banks dont own us... China does.
Foolish americans buy cheap stuff from Mao-Mart and basically give thier money to China.

The government controls America, and sometimes the goverment buys out the banks. Dont blame the tellers!

We can only blame ourselves for electing the wrong people for the job.


And you consider jingoism to be an American value? What about going into foreign countries and taking their interests? What about interfering in the lives of other people? Would you want someone interfering in your life?
Posted 12/25/11

angrierchick wrote:


KnightofMayhem wrote:


KyuuA4 wro te:


polynasian wrote:


First of all I don't want no government to tell me where and how I should spend my money.


So, you'd rather have the BIG BANKS dictate how money is spent? At least, the public can sway government's direction. Banks would simply laugh at your face and spit at you; at the same time, they'd be demanding your money. If you think you're safe from the banks right now, think again. They'll get you eventually.

Enjoy your bliss in the meantime.


Yes, big banks want my money and I will never get it back, they want to steal my money. They trick me by using big words and i cant even withdraw cash...
BIG BANKS... they'll get me with thier ads on tv and special deals

people need to be smart with thier money, and it's thier money

and Big Banks dont own us... China does.
Foolish americans buy cheap stuff from Mao-Mart and basically give thier money to China.

The government controls America, and sometimes the goverment buys out the banks. Dont blame the tellers!

We can only blame ourselves for electing the wrong people for the job.


And you consider jingoism to be an American value? What about going into foreign countries and taking their interests? What about interfering in the lives of other people? Would you want someone interfering in your life?

In realation to foriegn policy? No, that's not a value, that's a description of extreme government foreign policy. What about going to foreign countires? That's not me. The only time I go to foriegn countries is when I go on vacation. Am I really screwing people over by visiting Egypt and looking at Sphix's?
What about interfering with other people's lives? That happens all the time...
like you interfering in my life by replying to me. It's not like we're going to foriegn countries raping people.... jeez
Posted 12/25/11 , edited 12/25/11

angrierchick wrote:



And you consider jingoism to be an American value? What about going into foreign countries and taking their interests? What about interfering in the lives of other people? Would you want someone interfering in your life?
That may look like double standard on the American government, but according to Noam Chomsky, it was Adam Smith who had it right by calling it the "vile maxim of the masters of mankind".

..Among the most elementary of moral truisms is the principle of universality: we must apply to ourselves the same standards we do to others, if not more stringent ones. It is a remarkable comment on Western intellectual culture that this principle is so often ignored and, if occasionally mentioned, condemned as outrageous... Reigning doctrines are often called a "double standard." The term is misleading. It is more accurate to describe them as a single standard, clear and unmistakable, the standard that Adam Smith called the "vile maxim of the masters of mankind: . . . All for ourselves, and nothing for other people." Much has changed since his day, but the vile maxim flourishes...(citation)



KnightofMayhem wrote:


In realation to foriegn policy? No, that's not a value, that's a description of extreme government foreign policy. What about going to foreign countires? That's not me. The only time I go to foriegn countries is when I go on vacation. Am I really screwing people over by visiting Egypt and looking at Sphix's?
What about interfering with other people's lives? That happens all the time...
like you interfering in my life by replying to me. It's not like we're going to foriegn countries raping people.... jeez

It's your tax dollars at work, by funding your army defending the American corporate interest while claiming that they're fight for democracy.
Posted 12/26/11

DomFortress wrote:


angrierchick wrote:



And you consider jingoism to be an American value? What about going into foreign countries and taking their interests? What about interfering in the lives of other people? Would you want someone interfering in your life?
That may look like double standard on the American government, but according to Noam Chomsky, it was Adam Smith who had it right by calling it the "vile maxim of the masters of mankind".

..Among the most elementary of moral truisms is the principle of universality: we must apply to ourselves the same standards we do to others, if not more stringent ones. It is a remarkable comment on Western intellectual culture that this principle is so often ignored and, if occasionally mentioned, condemned as outrageous... Reigning doctrines are often called a "double standard." The term is misleading. It is more accurate to describe them as a single standard, clear and unmistakable, the standard that Adam Smith called the "vile maxim of the masters of mankind: . . . All for ourselves, and nothing for other people." Much has changed since his day, but the vile maxim flourishes...(citation)



KnightofMayhem wrote:


In realation to foriegn policy? No, that's not a value, that's a description of extreme government foreign policy. What about going to foreign countires? That's not me. The only time I go to foriegn countries is when I go on vacation. Am I really screwing people over by visiting Egypt and looking at Sphix's?
What about interfering with other people's lives? That happens all the time...
like you interfering in my life by replying to me. It's not like we're going to foriegn countries raping people.... jeez

It's your tax dollars at work, by funding your army defending the American corporate interest while claiming that they're fight for democracy.


Do you think I want to pay taxes?
Posted 12/26/11

KnightofMayhem wrote:


DomFortress wrote:


KnightofMayhem wrote:


In realation to foriegn policy? No, that's not a value, that's a description of extreme government foreign policy. What about going to foreign countires? That's not me. The only time I go to foriegn countries is when I go on vacation. Am I really screwing people over by visiting Egypt and looking at Sphix's?
What about interfering with other people's lives? That happens all the time...
like you interfering in my life by replying to me. It's not like we're going to foriegn countries raping people.... jeez

It's your tax dollars at work, by funding your army defending the American corporate interest while claiming that they're fight for democracy.


Do you think I want to pay taxes?
What you want is irrelevant to your role as an uncritical consumer, indoctrinated throughout your life by the mainstream culture of consumerism by your host society. You have no choice but to consume, while you pretended to be just a "tourist" because you're simply practicing global consumption through tourism and globalization.
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Posted 12/26/11

KnightofMayhem wrote:


angrierchick wrote:


KnightofMayhem wrote:


KyuuA4 wro te:


polynasian wrote:


First of all I don't want no government to tell me where and how I should spend my money.


So, you'd rather have the BIG BANKS dictate how money is spent? At least, the public can sway government's direction. Banks would simply laugh at your face and spit at you; at the same time, they'd be demanding your money. If you think you're safe from the banks right now, think again. They'll get you eventually.

Enjoy your bliss in the meantime.


Yes, big banks want my money and I will never get it back, they want to steal my money. They trick me by using big words and i cant even withdraw cash...
BIG BANKS... they'll get me with thier ads on tv and special deals

people need to be smart with thier money, and it's thier money

and Big Banks dont own us... China does.
Foolish americans buy cheap stuff from Mao-Mart and basically give thier money to China.

The government controls America, and sometimes the goverment buys out the banks. Dont blame the tellers!

We can only blame ourselves for electing the wrong people for the job.


And you consider jingoism to be an American value? What about going into foreign countries and taking their interests? What about interfering in the lives of other people? Would you want someone interfering in your life?

In realation to foriegn policy? No, that's not a value, that's a description of extreme government foreign policy. What about going to foreign countires? That's not me. The only time I go to foriegn countries is when I go on vacation. Am I really screwing people over by visiting Egypt and looking at Sphix's?

That's not what I asked you. Do not obfuscate and answer my question. It's an extreme foreign policy that several of our candidates think is a decent form of
What about interfering with other people's lives? That happens all the time...
That's not what I asked you. Do you support policies that would restrict your rights or the rights of those that you care about? Republicans are supposed to be pro-small government, but their policies would be exact opposite.
like you interfering in my life by replying to me. It's not like we're going to foriegn countries raping people.... jeez
No, but we're going over to other countries and killing civilians. Would you prefer rape or would you prefer to be shot for an idea?


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Posted 12/26/11 , edited 12/26/11

DKangN3 wrote:

What are your reasons for voting Republican? Specifically, what are your takes on the issues of the war in Iraq, healthcare, and the unbalanced economy?

Democrats, I don't need any input about why you're voting democrat, etc. Also, I hope the reasons posted in here will be factual and not just unfounded opinions, e.g. "The Democrats are ungodly sinners!" or "The Republicans make America better."

This is a post on my part to try and understand why anyone would want an administration that promises to continue Bush's legacy -- what am I not seeing?


Not a Republican myself, but, I would say that it comes primarily down to disillusionment. We have become disillusioned with Obama, his inability to take care of the Economy, the fact that the Banks have been bailed out as too big to fail, while the population is still plagued with high unemployment, to fulfill any one of his promise. This is partly Obama's fault, that he set the standards too high, and partly our fault, for putting too much faith in him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W93agCReEJ

Public Intellectual Noam Chomsky has a particular theory on Obama, that his campaign was intentionally vague, so that everyone may project their view of change and hope upon him, without actually knowing his views, and, personally, I find some truth in this assertion. But, all this by and by, we live in a system which forces between a choice between two extreme similar party, the Democrat and Republican, and, yet, despite its core being very, very similar, the difference are so accentuated that, when policy fails, we oscillate from one party, get disillusioned with it, and move to the other, and repeat the same process. Bush legacy is relatively far behind, enough that we can look back with nostalgia when we didn't have a recession, and attribute it to Bush's near Laissez Faire Policy, but the present Obama is still fresh, and, so, we can look back upon Obama, and see his years of mostly failures more clearly than that of Bush. For my own part, I am not going to contribute to evil, and rather my hands were washed of any blood.
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Lol and you see why we Americans can never vote for change because many of us stupidly still believe that there is some profound difference between Democrats and Republicans. As if Obama is so far different from Bush or something. The media keeps the uneducated Americans in line with, "the left vs the right, Conservative or Liberal" and we elect a candidate who supposed fall into that category only to see them continue on the path of destruction. The problem with us Americans is that we dont care about politics nor do we do any background research on candidates to see their voting record.

We let the corporate media do that for us and they choose whoever they want to be candidate by giving them more air time then others. They can politically assassinate ones character while completely ignoring the flaws of the candidates they promote knowing full well the American people arent smart enough to even care. Lol why now in this country we have the Patriot act supported by both parties which can arrest you without due trail and Obama one up Bush by upgrading it. Now we can detain Americans and ship them off to some foreign country for torture if we ,"believe" them to be terrorist. Of course there is no trail so all your constitutional rights is gone. Are the Americans outraged? Nope because X-Factor is on TV and we need to see who is going to win. Some football game is playing or New years is coming up time to go partying. Life is pure entertainment as the economy worsens and our elected officials is about to take us into a war with Iran which could cause world war 3. I just dont know how stupid my fellow citizens can get while all this is happening they vote on candidates who verbally and voting record shows they will continue this behavior. Then when we do have a candidate who oppose the status quo the media goes into attack mode (does any American question how all media outlets can attack a single candidate on the same issue, talk about variety of choices we have for news) and smears him, Americans dont research so they believe what they are told and thus vote the status quo, flip flopper into office.

DOes it take for this country to just go bankrupt for change? Does it take the world to get fed up on how stupid Americans are and turn their back on America? Lol just astounds me how people see such difference between the parties and politics in this country. There is much more but I am getting lazy.
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