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Is It Easy Solving a Problem as a Bystander [than Solving a Problem of Your Own]?
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Posted 8/17/14
like when you watch something, you're like, "he shouldn't have done that. He should have done ____" or "he could have already killed it [with fire.]"
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Definately...Observing is key!
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Posted 8/17/14

Generalsurvival wrote:

Definately...Observing is key!


In your view, why is it easy to solve a problem when you're a bystander?
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Because when I'm a bystander, the person initiating the problem is sort of like the test dummy...and I basically just rewrite my choices as that person does the problem. He/she already sets some flags up...like he/she will go in this direction. So that person already eliminated some choices, making it easier for me to narrow down my own choices. Another example is watching youtube videos.

As oppose for me doing it on my own, I don't have that much of a high intellect to view all sides of the situation and come up with the best answer. Plus, I would have to do the problem on my own and try it. I might even have to keep on trying and retrying again until something works. If I'm a bystander though, like I said, the other person is a test dummy in which I can eliminate some choices.
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Well, I've talked people out of suicide, kept them from self harm, even turned them to religion, all while I was at the edge and losing my religion. I found it much more simple to talk other people down than to bring myself up.
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Posted 8/17/14

KP_Wrath wrote:

Well, I've talked people out of suicide, kept them from self harm, even turned them to religion, all while I was at the edge and losing my religion. I found it much more simple to talk other people down than to bring myself up.


I know right! Exactly!
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If you are a bystander you see the details the person solving it him or her self
Then the bystander can solve it with the help of the person trying or solving it by themselve
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Posted 8/17/14 , edited 8/17/14
In MY case, Yes. I'm Schooling in Psychiatry after all. But, I can't fix My own Problems for the Life of Me.
Posted 8/18/14
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A second party's insight can be helpful but sometimes a bystander's criticism can have the oppose affect of advice and cause hindrance instead. Those kind of criticisms are most likely uninformed opinions made by people who were not present at the scene. They are just letting people know that they can solve problems as long as they aren't involved in it.
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Posted 8/18/14
If you get involved then you're not really a bystander anymore, are you?

I guess you mean, it's easier to come up with what you feel is the "right" solution when you're on the outside and most likely have seen the incident play out. I guess it's easier to consider a solution correct when you have limited information and don't have to actually put it to the test. I do find it frustrating sometimes when people say "just do..." or "you should have..." when they don't really understand the situation. It's good to try and help but it's bad to assume you have all the answers.

I'd say outsiders do have advantages that allow them to help more easily in some situations though. If you're in a tough situation it can affect you're ability to think clearly and you'll likely have a bias built up. Outsiders can look at things from a more neutral and objective position.

RPGs wouldn't be nearly as fun if everyone just said "it's okay, I can handle it myself".
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Posted 8/18/14
But bystanders don't want to help
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Posted 8/18/14 , edited 8/18/14
You're likely to have more information about the problem if you're directly involved in it, and because you have a direct interest in succeeding, you have more motivation to solve the problem. If you can keep a clear head, I'd say that the bystander always has the inferior position. Of course, keeping a clear head is the operative phrase here. I'd say it's rare that a bystander can come to a better conclusion than someone directly involved. I would never ask a stranger for advice on whether to dump my girlfriend, for instance. He might even end up being right, but he's terribly under-informed. Asking close friends is more or less just lesser degrees of "strange-ness," until they are too close to be uninvolved, at which point they are no longer a bystander.
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Posted 8/18/14 , edited 8/18/14
I think it's easier to 'give helpful advice' because if something goes wrong for the person you're helping, most of the time you won't be the one suffering the consequences. When it's your problem then anything bad that comes of how you deal with said problem is on you, so you're more likely to get caught up in thinking of a million and one things to do. It's easier to think of something to say when you don't have to worry about the consequences. It's easy to recommend someone should do something when you're not the one in their position having to do it.
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Posted 8/18/14
idk but i always get mad at the characters doing stupid stuff in movies , like really why are you going down a dark room that is most likely filled with zombies..
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