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Does reading the manga to a shonen ruin your anime viewing experience?
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Posted 8/18/14
I've been watching One Piece since 2005 followed the anime since then.
And I know most all anime out there is based off a manga and most of the top shonen (naruto,one piece, bleach etc.) all follow the manga to the t. and the manga is always so much further ahed then the Anime is.

and because of that reason when you read a manga does it hinder your viewing experience any??

It's not like reading Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter then watching the film adaptations, because the way you perceive what is in literature is up to your imagination on how you bring whats on the page in text to life with your imagination based off what the writer is describing then the directors who adapt the film give there take and you are practically getting two different takes on the story.

But with Manga and anime you are basically getting the same images just in stills, then much later you are given the motion and sound with it but at a slower pace.

Im sorry if im being confusing it just hard for me to explain it in words.

But as for the topic question

Does reading the manga hinder the viewing experience of the anime because the manga, while it is the original content, is so much further ahed that you already know what is going to happen in the episode, and because the anime it's so much further behind it almosr bores you to watch?


because im seriously considering reading the manga but then im afraid that I won't even want to bother to watch the anime anymore
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Posted 8/18/14
I actually find my experience hindered by watching animu in general.

a lot of things are lost when you have to constrain to an time limit(while deriving form a source that also had a page limit)
some stuff just plain isn't as striking or gripping in color.
sound adds a lot. including distractions.
a lot of animu are actiony, meaning they have to play up the cool camera angles and that can distract from the impact of certain events.
the animu medium caters to a more impatient audience(or in the case of a shared audience, puts them into a less patient frame of mind) so a lot of things have to be rushed. with mango you can at least linger on something to digest it.
you just can't beat a well-drawn landscape and having it sprawled out before you on paper. if you're pausing an animu, you might as well be reading mango.
casual-tier dub crowd doesn't exist in mango. instant +5.

just a collection of things.
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Posted 8/18/14 , edited 8/18/14
I agree with the post above. I don't think this just directly applies to only shounen manga, I think that it happens when reading any kind of manga/LN.

I have a feeling that what you're trying to refer to is whether or not we as anime viewers like spoiling ourselves. If we read the manga/LN first, then we will generally know what will happen in the anime, assuming the anime bases a large portion of their episodes on the source material. We already anticipate what will happen next, so it really is no surprise that our reactions will be far from ecstatic compared to those who have not read the source material first.

Also, to answer your question, I think it depends on what you're watching. I have different reactions when watching an anime I already read. Take for example when I was watching Magi. Going into the anime, I knew what to expect, yet it did not ruin my enjoyment for it. I liked watching it getting animated. Especially towards the second season.
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Posted 8/18/14
I don't think I've read a shonen manga then watched the anime afterwards. I think it varies depending on the series, though I usually find I'll enjoy the other if I already enjoyed one.

I read the "Skip Beat" manga and then watched the anime and I enjoyed both a lot (would be nice if they did more anime). I recently watched the "Lovely Complex" anime but I didn't feel as much like reading the manga afterwards. I watched and read Azumanga Daioh at pretty much the same time (sometimes I was ahead with one and sometimes the other) and I think they complemented each other nicely.

I spend more time watching anime so I'm more likely to pick up a manga if I enjoyed the anime than the other way around. Anime is often made as a kind of advert for the manga so I guess that makes sense.
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Posted 8/18/14
Not at all. I read One Piece from the beginning to the current arc just a few months ago because if I watched it, it would take me a very long time. I still watch some of the episodes just to see some moments in color and in motion. Already knowing what's gonna happen doesn't ruin it for me (they do make some slight changes here and there and that's something I look forward to), but instead enhances my understanding of the manga.

The arc I really want to see in anime form is the Thriller Bark arc. Just waiting for CR to have it up.
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Posted 8/18/14 , edited 8/18/14
For me i think it could. I'm not a huge manga reader to begin with but id rather wait and watch was happens in one piece and Naruto rather than reading it. If i was to read it first than watch it, i believe it wouldn't be as exciting because then i would already know what was going to happen and that would affect my anime watching experience. Only time i really read the manga is to get a better ending to certain anime that ended early.
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Posted 8/18/14
with shounen...idk about "ruining" , but typically once i've caught up with the anime i go straight to manga. & if anime continues, i don't watch it anymore (haven't seen FT since ep 110 or something, only watched first season of Magi). It's not that i feel the anime would ruin the manga, but i already know what's gonna happen so no need to watch it. Exceptions would be Gintama & Hunter x Hunter -- i can better understand them in anime form (but i still read the manga).
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As a recent anime-to-manga convert, I can't speak from a plethora of experience, but recently I've been watching Akame ga Kill, and have been so surprised by how good the show has turned out and I wanted more so badly, that it has forced me to pick up the manga when I never thought I would. It all depends on the person, but for me, it just multiplies my interest in the anime ten fold in order to see certain parts in the manga get brought to life onto the colorful big screen. If anything, reading the source material simply increases your craving of the adaptation even more because you can't believe you're waiting for something to happen when you already know what is going to pass.
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well it ruined Toriko and One Piece for me because the animes are shitty, Fairy Tail it takes down the emotion but at least im still enjoying the anime
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Posted 8/18/14
To a degree I think it does for me. Almost any series I watch, I've read or am reading the corresponding Manga or LN not because I want to be spoiled but because I find the Manga and LN's offer a level of depth that the anime often lacks.

Sometimes that annoys me, when a scene that most who read the material found vital to the character or the story is left out of the anime. Or the opposite is done, and a scene that was relatively minor and short lived in the written material is blown waaaaay out of proportion in the anime or extended to an absurd length of time.

For the most part I enjoy both because I enjoy seeing those still images brought to life but I also enjoy the added depth the original material offers.
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With all these thoughtful posts I find it difficult to leave it at one statement, but I'll do it anyways; No.



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Posted 8/19/14
So i've read all your opinions and it's been very helpful

I think after reading all you're posts it's clear I should STEER AWAY from attempting to read the manga because then I won't ever want to come back to the anime. or if i do my experience will be ruined because I know what will happen already.

I'll just be patient and stick with the anime. Plus I love the music and voice actors for the show. and the action scenes being brought to life.


THe only reason I'd want to read the manga is because I love One Piece so much tha tknowing the manga is further ahed, I want more so badly.

but i guess after reading all your posts it's clear it would be unwise to do so.

so thank you everybody
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Posted 8/19/14
It seems like you already took a decision but hey, gonna throw my two cents in .

My personal experience is that it strongly depends on the quality of adaptation. A good anime adaptation can be better than its source material, if the added elements (colours, music, direction, voice acting) are used well enough to support the original material rather than contrast it. In the shonen field some examples of this for me would be Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood (though you should still read the manga of that one as some parts of the anime are still lacking, for example the Ishbal War flashback), HunterXHunter 2011, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure 2012, Death Note - the latter especially notable because I actually feel that some FILLER scenes that were added only for the anime seriously enhanced the viewing experience.
However, a bad, cheap adaptation will just turn boring. An example, sadly, is One Piece, whose anime I ended up dropping after the quality lowered more and more. Without spoiling anything for those who are watching it on CR, let's just say that there are mass scenes in certain future arcs that become extremely underwhelming when animated - actually resulting LESS epic than in the manga for the sheer laziness of the art. The slow pacing also really hurts the experience, and forces the TV writers to stuff comic relief when it's not needed to just pad out the material (of course One Piece has a lot of comedy, but Oda's is actually FUNNY. When the TV writers do their thing they just tend to rehash the same jokes made by Oda earlier, only repeating them until they become annoying). So it is possible that reading the manga would make you drop the anime, but it's not like that would be necessarily a bad thing. A good shonen anime is worth watching even if you read the manga, if you drop it it's just because it's not good.
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Posted 8/19/14

strawhat_adam wrote:
THe only reason I'd want to read the manga is because I love One Piece so much tha tknowing the manga is further ahed, I want more so badly.


It's not actually that far ahead at all and there-in lies the biggest problem with the anime as well. In the earlier parts of the anime the manga was far enough ahead that each episode was about a 1:2.5 ratio; 1 episode = 2.5 chapters, sometimes even 3. So long as it kept to that ratio the episodes were well paced and the fights for the most part followed their natural progression. Eventually the anime caught up due to breaks in the manga and the natural progression of 1:2.5 eventually reaching that point.

Since around the Fishman Island Arc of the anime the series began running a 1:1 ratio. At that point, there's not enough original content from the manga to stretch across a 24 minute episode. So what does this mean for the anime studio? Extend everything. (Not the opening! One Piece has had a lengthy opening and recap for years; since Arlong Park) Some examples:

1. A fight that lasted a single blow in the manga? Make that fight last 10 minutes and several attacks using repeated animation for the majority of it.
--- This takes away from the scale of the situation. The single blow in the manga was used as a statement. To make a point about the difference in strength between the two combatants. Extending it to fluff nonsense ruins that.

2. A scene that was for the most part a backdrop to the situation at hand? Focus heavily on it, for the majority of the episode.
--- It was a backdrop because it wasn't interesting enough to draw your attention away and focus entirely on it and the animation team doesn't make it any more interesting.

3. A fodder fight (nameless henchman get whomped by the Crew) that ended swiftly? Draw it out to last several episodes, using the same fight scenes over and over with generic large scale attacks to make the fight feel more...important.
--- It's a fodder fight because the enemies are generic henchman who don't pose a threat and aren't deemed worthy of extra time. Focusing on them repeatedly is a waste of time.

4. A fight that didn't actually get shown in the manga, we merely saw the conclusion of it? Show it! show it constantly! Just use the fighters most generic attacks 500 times over 5+ episodes and make it look interesting!
--- We weren't supposed to see that fight. We were supposed to be shocked at the conclusion and left questioning how it happened. There was usually a twist to it that one of the crew will discover during their subsequent fight later on.

Add to this that at 600+ episodes, the animation quality has taken a sharp nose dive for well over 90% of the episodes. They only bother putting in impressive details to it when the anime finally gets around to the primary fights from the source material. Just go watch the episode where Aokiji shows up on Punk Hazard to stop Doflamingo. The entire episode to that point looks like it was done by someone half asleep running on Red Bull until that exact moment and BAM! Intricate details of Smoker, Doflamingo, Aokiji, the ice clouds, everything. That is how it's been since the conclusion of the Marineford Saga.

And yet, there's really not much that can be done to solve the issue. They could do a filler arc to give the Manga some breathing room, but people complain too much about fillers when sometimes they serve a useful purpose (One Piece has a very low ratio of fillers to canon episodes). The problem is that the chance to do a decent length filler arc and give the manga that breathing room was before Fishman Island, or before Punk Hazard. Instead they've trudged forward into yet another ongoing arc and are right up the manga's ass. So what about going on hiatus? I just don't see that working as an option. I can't really explain why but I just don't.

At this point I watch One Piece because I'm dedicated to it. I loved the earlier episodes. I'm sorely disappointed in everything since the time skip occurred. I'll continue to watch it but I went from truly enjoying both mediums to only really getting enjoyment from the manga and watching the anime out of habit.


My apologies for the rant but dammit someone mentioned the One Piece manga and I couldn't help myself any longer.
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Posted 8/19/14 , edited 8/19/14
Never.
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