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Posted 8/29/14
No, because I have no want to spend more of my time helping others. And yes I know I'm selfish. Schools could set up a program for students to do some community service, but it shouldn't be mandatory.
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Posted 8/29/14 , edited 8/29/14

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Enriching a sense of community involvement and participation absolutely should be a goal of any educational program containing compulsory voluntary service, but what should be of the greatest importance is the impact such a policy has on students, both in terms of their quality of life and the quality of their educational outcomes.


I'd rather school teaches and install in them the nature of charity instead...
...Forcing students to participate in communities service probably defeat the purpose of improving quality of educational outcomes.

Compulsory voluntary service - If it is compulsory. it isn't voluntary.
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I'd rather school teaches and install in them the nature of charity instead...
...Forcing students to participate in communities service probably defeat the purpose of improving quality of educational outcomes.


That's a claim that must be supported with data. Do you have any which indicates that educational outcomes are negatively affected by mandatory community service?


Compulsory voluntary service - If it is compulsory. it isn't voluntary.


Yes, I'm guilty of having created a contradiction. It's a bit of a nitpick, but whatever.
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Posted 8/29/14
Yes and even college requires community service here in the Netherlands, at least 15 hours
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Honestly, I don't think it should be mandatory. Do I think schools should create more opportunities for students to volunteer for community service? Absolutely. My school only had a few of them and most of them had a person limit so slots filled up quickly. Almost every college application wants some form of community service now so it would definitely be helpful. But forcing it on people? What about the people who have obligations outside of school sanctioned ones? Nearly every other weekend in high school, I was running community service functions with my mother for an organization we are both members of. The school sanctioned events often had a conflicting schedule with my own, so I obviously chose the ones I had originally volunteered for rather than the ones my school supported. Heck, community service can tend to conflict with other school events! Who knows how many events some of my friends missed out on because they had practice or a game for one of their sports or band.

So no. I do not support mandatory community service.
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Posted 8/30/14 , edited 8/30/14
50 hours of community service was mandatory for my final year of high school as it was a Christian based school. I guess the good thing about it was that you had a whole school year to accumulate 50 hours and you could take on more than one project. You were also able to start during the summer prior to your senior year so you had plenty of time.
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TessTales wrote:

Honestly, I don't think it should be mandatory. Do I think schools should create more opportunities for students to volunteer for community service? Absolutely. My school only had a few of them and most of them had a person limit so slots filled up quickly. Almost every college application wants some form of community service now so it would definitely be helpful. But forcing it on people? What about the people who have obligations outside of school sanctioned ones? Nearly every other weekend in high school, I was running community service functions with my mother for an organization we are both members of. The school sanctioned events often had a conflicting schedule with my own, so I obviously chose the ones I had originally volunteered for rather than the ones my school supported. Heck, community service can tend to conflict with other school events! Who knows how many events some of my friends missed out on because they had practice or a game for one of their sports or band.

So no. I do not support mandatory community service.


My high school would've accepted that as service hours. It didn't matter what you did as long as you took a piece of paper to the one in charge (so since I'm not sure they'd accept your mom, probably the president of the organization or someone else who was involved) and had them sign and grade you (which actually wasn't that important) out of 4 and add some comments. I think this was mostly to be sure students weren't just blowing hot air and also see how much effort was put into it. Sure my service hours were 'school sanctioned' since it was a mission trip but I still had to get 'graded' by the head chaperone. Most of my classmates volunteered at a camp over the summer for their service hours.

So I don't see a problem with mandatory service hours. We were informed about it in detail in the middle of our junior year and given ideas on what we could do. I believe we had from then on to accumulate our service hours. Even those in sports can't be busy all summer, and while I wasn't in 4-H the summer before my senior year, I had been in other years and that didn't take up every hour of the summer.

However this did make me realize, that it's as much about the idea of mandatory service hours as how it's implemented.
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Posted 8/31/14
Mandatory volunteer service would defeat the whole purpose of VOLUNTEER service.
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Posted 9/1/14

BlueOni wrote:


shuyi000 wrote:

I'd rather school teaches and install in them the nature of charity instead...
...Forcing students to participate in communities service probably defeat the purpose of improving quality of educational outcomes.


That's a claim that must be supported with data. Do you have any which indicates that educational outcomes are negatively affected by mandatory community service?



If you read what i've writen carefully... You'll noticed that I didn't mention anything about negative effect...

What I meant is, by forcing students to go through community to learn to be a good citizen is pointless...
There is better ways to approach it...

Therefore, I still believe that community service is probably just a way to give back to the public since the school is government funded..
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shuyi000 wrote:

If you read what i've writen carefully... You'll noticed that I didn't mention anything about negative effect...


You know, since we're on the subject of language and interpretation, why do you include breaks in every single sentence you write? Is it an unavoidable part of the device you're using to post?


What I meant is, by forcing students to go through community to learn to be a good citizen is pointless...
There is better ways to approach it...

Therefore, I still believe that community service is probably just a way to give back to the public since the school is government funded..


The student does not owe something to the community for its having fulfilled its obligation to provide them with an education. Do you owe me something for granting you your right to speak freely? No, because rights don't work that way.
Posted 9/1/14
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Posted 9/1/14
Pfft, it pretty much already is a requirement. If you want to go to a good college anyway. Nowadays not having community service and not being a complete robot is frowned upon by acceptance committies.
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Posted 9/4/14
How about we fix the broken educational system we have first before we think about things like "making our public schools require kids to do community service".

Some of us have family businesses to take care of and clean trash on the daily as it is. Not everyone's daily high school life isn't so carefree that we have extra time on our hands, especially in this economy.
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Posted 9/4/14 , edited 9/4/14
We already have slavery in the US it is called "forced overtime" and "minimum wage"
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Posted 9/8/14
As long as my kids goes to a public school and I have to pay property taxes to fund his education (which I do not mind paying) I feel that community service is indentured servitude and should be outlawed. If they want to make it a class where you get some credit for it as an elective so be it. But forcing children to give away time for free defeats the purpose of them striving to get ahead and be rewarded for it.(ie grades, money)
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