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Why isn't manga done seasonally?
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If it's a monthly, does it mean the manga is great?
It's like spending amount of time for an "expected" high quality work?
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If it's a monthly, does it mean the manga is great?
It's like spending amount of time for an "expected" high quality work?


As a whole, monthly manga tend to be more detailed (artistically) and they are normally double the length of a weekly manga. Sometimes, depending on the authors health, the page count will be lower but the art will still be up to par with the series.
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onibrotonel wrote:

If it's a monthly, does it mean the manga is great?
It's like spending amount of time for an "expected" high quality work?


As a whole, monthly manga tend to be more detailed (artistically) and they are normally double the length of a weekly manga. Sometimes, depending on the authors health, the page count will be lower but the art will still be up to par with the series.


Attack on Titan is done per month and the art is horrendous
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Siawo wrote:


Rippedyanu1 wrote:


onibrotonel wrote:

If it's a monthly, does it mean the manga is great?
It's like spending amount of time for an "expected" high quality work?


As a whole, monthly manga tend to be more detailed (artistically) and they are normally double the length of a weekly manga. Sometimes, depending on the authors health, the page count will be lower but the art will still be up to par with the series.


Attack on Titan is done per month and the art is horrendous


Hence the phrase "As a whole". AoT looks like it was drawn by someone suffering from schizophrenia while suffering from tremors. Yes I realize that is a horrible way to put it, but it's the truth.
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Rippedyanu1 wrote:


Siawo wrote:


Rippedyanu1 wrote:


onibrotonel wrote:

If it's a monthly, does it mean the manga is great?
It's like spending amount of time for an "expected" high quality work?


As a whole, monthly manga tend to be more detailed (artistically) and they are normally double the length of a weekly manga. Sometimes, depending on the authors health, the page count will be lower but the art will still be up to par with the series.


Attack on Titan is done per month and the art is horrendous


Hence the phrase "As a whole". AoT looks like it was drawn by someone suffering from schizophrenia while suffering from tremors. Yes I realize that is a horrible way to put it, but it's the truth.


yes but for example look at Hiro Mashima's Fairy Tail and Rave Master, done weekly, sometimes we get Fairy Tail Zero, and it has one of the best art in a manga.... i think people are just afraid of what happened to togashi
Posted 8/28/14
agreed!
drawing manga week in week out would drive anyone crazy. and sometimes newer artists can't afford assistants, so they have to draw it all by themselves.
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I don't think it could work if it was done seasonally. I can see anime because you have more people, airing dates, and viewers. More money. Manga does have assistances but you could create a manga just by yourself. There are monthly manga publishings if that is what you meant.

But Togashi will be back. At least there are a few new chapters this year which is better than having none at all!
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eh? creating a manga seasonally doesn't make much sense that's like saying a comic artist like marvel and dc) would only draw a comic per season or a multi-volume author would write one book for a season. It doesn't work the same for drawing/writing like it does for media.



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The truth is that the publishing of Manga is a business, so to do it seasonally would be non-beneficial to the companies. Actually, that would hurt the business because you must keep ranking in sales to keep the company/business going.


I think it makes a lot of sense, and I think it makes a lot more sense in regards to manga as opposed to something like comic books. The thing about manga is that a lot of them are published and serialized in magazines and then released in tankobon. I'm not saying that magazines should publish seasonally; that would be ludicrous. I'm saying that they should run different manga seasonally so you would get something different depending on the time of year but they could also potentially plan arcs that stretch across that time period.

Obviously that's never going to happen, but I think it sounds pretty brilliant. It'd eliminate the problem of overworking staff and prevent illness and hiatus. Maybe I should start my own manga company?

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Sogno- wrote:

eh? creating a manga seasonally doesn't make much sense that's like saying a comic artist like marvel and dc) would only draw a comic per season or a multi-volume author would write one book for a season. It doesn't work the same for drawing/writing like it does for media.



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The truth is that the publishing of Manga is a business, so to do it seasonally would be non-beneficial to the companies. Actually, that would hurt the business because you must keep ranking in sales to keep the company/business going.


I think it makes a lot of sense, and I think it makes a lot more sense in regards to manga as opposed to something like comic books. The thing about manga is that a lot of them are published and serialized in magazines and then released in tankobon. I'm not saying that magazines should publish seasonally; that would be ludicrous. I'm saying that they should run different manga seasonally so you would get something different depending on the time of year but they could also potentially plan arcs that stretch across that time period.

Obviously that's never going to happen, but I think it sounds pretty brilliant. It'd eliminate the problem of overworking staff and prevent illness and hiatus. Maybe I should start my own manga company?



If a mangaka's work isn't being published, they don't make money, they don't eat. Publishing in the magazine is their job.

Let's assume a weekly magazine, and a fairly popular manga (enough that the sales are enough for the mangaka to eat, and it's not going to get dropped anytime soon). Every 6 chapters, a volume is produced.

The current scenario: Mangaka has a few weeks off in a year - still produces 7 volumes that year.
Scenario you're proposing: Mangaka writes work for 3 months, gets told they won't have any work for 3 months. In a year they produce 4 volumes.

In the 3 months they're not being published what are they going to do?

There are magazines that are quarterly. A lot of the work in the one that I buy is done by mangaka who have multiple manga they're writing - that means they're still working the equivalent of a monthly/bimonthly author (well, they're also pretty popular). But they still take breaks. There are magazines that are bi monthly in which there may be a 2 issue break between chapters. That's 6 months of waiting. Even if you give mangaka a long time to write it doesn't stop hiatus...
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OlympianRed wrote:


Sogno- wrote:

eh? creating a manga seasonally doesn't make much sense that's like saying a comic artist like marvel and dc) would only draw a comic per season or a multi-volume author would write one book for a season. It doesn't work the same for drawing/writing like it does for media.



JuJu26 wrote:

The truth is that the publishing of Manga is a business, so to do it seasonally would be non-beneficial to the companies. Actually, that would hurt the business because you must keep ranking in sales to keep the company/business going.


I think it makes a lot of sense, and I think it makes a lot more sense in regards to manga as opposed to something like comic books. The thing about manga is that a lot of them are published and serialized in magazines and then released in tankobon. I'm not saying that magazines should publish seasonally; that would be ludicrous. I'm saying that they should run different manga seasonally so you would get something different depending on the time of year but they could also potentially plan arcs that stretch across that time period.

Obviously that's never going to happen, but I think it sounds pretty brilliant. It'd eliminate the problem of overworking staff and prevent illness and hiatus. Maybe I should start my own manga company?



If a mangaka's work isn't being published, they don't make money, they don't eat. Publishing in the magazine is their job.

Let's assume a weekly magazine, and a fairly popular manga (enough that the sales are enough for the mangaka to eat, and it's not going to get dropped anytime soon). Every 6 chapters, a volume is produced.

The current scenario: Mangaka has a few weeks off in a year - still produces 7 volumes that year.
Scenario you're proposing: Mangaka writes work for 3 months, gets told they won't have any work for 3 months. In a year they produce 4 volumes.

In the 3 months they're not being published what are they going to do?

There are magazines that are quarterly. A lot of the work in the one that I buy is done by mangaka who have multiple manga they're writing - that means they're still working the equivalent of a monthly/bimonthly author (well, they're also pretty popular). But they still take breaks. There are magazines that are bi monthly in which there may be a 2 issue break between chapters. That's 6 months of waiting. Even if you give mangaka a long time to write it doesn't stop hiatus...


They're going to produce more manga off-season, that's how TV works. As far as I know, there is no industry other than manga where it's acceptable to take hiatuses, but the reason they take hiatuses in the first place from what I've seen is that they work so damn hard because they're paid slave wages for their work.

To be fair, manga isn't on the level that television is. It's not as commercially viable worldwide. So by that logic, it's harder to make a living unless you have an international hit and from what I've heard even that doesn't make them as much as it should. That's a problem with the industry, and that's why it should be changed.

If it doesn't stop the hiatuses, well, there are always other factors. People are still going to get sick, that much is a given.. but they would get sick less as a result of overworking themselves and more as a result of living. People shouldn't have to work so hard they put themselves in the hospital, it's not right. Money withstanding. I still think it's a viable proposition.

Like I said though, I don't work in the industry and I'm not a mangaka, but it's just an idea. I don't think it's doable. There's certainly no reason why it wouldn't be commercially viable though. The idea is that while you work less, you earn more as opposed to the way the industry seems to be right now where you have to work yourself to death to earn a living.

That's the ideal scenario. Who knows, maybe I'll take this model and start a western magazine that puts out comic books in a manga format.
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