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ISIS, Russia, and more woes
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Posted 8/30/14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t41WD_40tq8 This will make you feel a little better.

Most of these ISIS guys would piss themselves if the US would stop dicking around and called in real airstrikes. b1/b2/b52's
You couldn't kill them all this way, but you would demoralize and scatter them. Its one thing to fight lightly armed Yazidis villagers, but taking on a superpower???
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BlueOni wrote:


OlympianRed wrote:

What does the number of Muslim people have to do with anything? Islam isn't an inherently violent religion, the extremists have just given it a bad name in the west. As for Isis, well, people are taking it lightly because it's not real. It's a terrorist group sanctioned by the CIA and the SIS.


Is that what Alex Jones is telling people now?

Edit: I just checked, and I hit the nail on the head. That man is an insufferable liar.


I wouldn't know what Alex Jones is saying because I don't follow him or anyone associated with him.
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I wouldn't know what Alex Jones is saying because I don't follow him or anyone associated with him.


Suffice it to say that if you're drawing the same conclusions he is you need to completely reevaluate your position.
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I never know where to begin research or what information has what bias. I could spend all day everyday trying to educate myself about the world and never really be sure about any of it since I'm so disconnected from it all. I still try, just not passionately.

What really scares me is how easy it is not to care.
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Fanboyish wrote:

I never know where to begin research or what information has what bias. I could spend all day everyday trying to educate myself about the world and never really be sure about any of it since I'm so disconnected from it all. I still try, just not passionately.

What really scares me is how easy it is not to care.


I recommend The Washington Post and the BBC as pretty good news sources, and reports from the UN (World Health Organization World Bank, and so on), Eurostat, and the various US government agencies can provide you a pretty clear picture of whatever data you might need. Other data sources which might prove useful depending on what you're looking at include sources like the journals put out by the American Psychiatric Association, the American Chemical Society, and the American Medical Association. Peer reviewed is the key phrase.
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Such interesting responses!
It does not surprise me that a lot of Muslim youth are joining ISIS . I was reading an article that said that Muslim youths in the USA and Europe join these extremist groups because they feel alienated in their societies. For them it's hard loving the place of your birth when they are attacking your ancestral homeland. It's a way of proving themselves.

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I'm just glad I moved from Kiev while I did, now I'm in comfy cozy Canada where I can actually relax without crazy people throwing garbage everywhere and petrol bombings every half hour.
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As a wise man once said: "Hey, it could be worse!"
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HuastecoOtaku wrote:

Such interesting responses!
It does not surprise me that a lot of Muslim youth are joining ISIS . I was reading an article that said that Muslim youths in the USA and Europe join these extremist groups because they feel alienated in their societies. For them it's hard loving the place of your birth when they are attacking your ancestral homeland. It's a way of proving themselves.



There is that, and additionally they are promised the opportunity to fight a "holy war" for their religion. It's so easy to manipulate youths who are lost to believe that is the right thing to do.
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HuastecoOtaku wrote:

Such interesting responses!
It does not surprise me that a lot of Muslim youth are joining ISIS . I was reading an article that said that Muslim youths in the USA and Europe join these extremist groups because they feel alienated in their societies. For them it's hard loving the place of your birth when they are attacking your ancestral homeland. It's a way of proving themselves.



There is that, and additionally they are promised the opportunity to fight a "holy war" for their religion. It's so easy to manipulate youths who are lost to believe that is the right thing to do.


I think that Europeon Muslims are more hardcore than the Muslims in the USA. Most of my Muslims friends here in the states are very liberal.
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I think that Europeon Muslims are more hardcore than the Muslims in the USA. Most of my Muslims friends here in the states are very liberal.


That sounds entirely possible. Muslims here are segregated and a lot refuses to take part in the norwegian culture. Not to mention there are absolutely none repercussion for going to fight that holy war. They don't lose citizenship and are welcomed back(should they survive).
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HuastecoOtaku wrote:


I think that Europeon Muslims are more hardcore than the Muslims in the USA. Most of my Muslims friends here in the states are very liberal.


That sounds entirely possible. Muslims here are segregated and a lot refuses to take part in the norwegian culture. Not to mention there are absolutely none repercussion for going to fight that holy war. They don't lose citizenship and are welcomed back(should they survive).


Facinating. The Muslims kids I met back in high school believed in their god but that was about it. They didn't fast and pray. Most of the girls didn't wear hijab and hanged out with non Muslims. I wonder why.
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it's a mass exodus of the religious minorities. F*cking sad that people are butchered out there as we speak. Too bad media is always one sided and we never really know whats going on until you hear it from someone who resides there
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Kikusui10 wrote:

That sounds entirely possible. Muslims here are segregated and a lot refuses to take part in the norwegian culture. Not to mention there are absolutely none repercussion for going to fight that holy war. They don't lose citizenship and are welcomed back(should they survive).


Can we get a source validating that this is in fact the policy of the Norwegian government? I want to see if my guess is right if it is, specifically that the rationale behind such a policy is that since these peoples' crimes are taking place outside Norway's jurisdiction there is no legally enforceable mechanism by which to charge and prosecute them.

I certainly hope you're mistaken, or else the Norwegian parliament has a problem they need to fix immediately.
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Glad to see that I'm not the only one who reads the Washington Post. Most people I encounter don't read much of news or go to some sketchy news sites.

At any rate, the solutions to these problems are rather simple in general terms.

1.) Forget about toppling Assad. Bad dude? Yes. But chances are, there are no clear good alternatives.

2.) Give up on the post-World War I British invention of Iraq. Just like Yugoslavia, it was only held together by a cruel dictator. Now he's dead. The Kurds obviously want to go their own way, Baghdad has become an Iranian puppet. Take our support away from Baghdad and give it to the Kurds. Arm the Kurds to the teeth, and let them fight ISIS. They actually respect their minorities.

3.) Announce more NATO war games in Eastern Europe, affirm our dedication to NATO, and announce plans to upgrade our existing nuclear weapons. And since the Russians seem so keen on shredding up previous bilateral treaties regarding missile testing, we should join in on shredding them on our end too. We can't afford to get behind in nuclear technology; especially since we are downsizing our military.

4.) This follows on 3. Give heavy weaponry to the Ukranians, and make sure the Russians know that we mean to keep our treaty with Ukraine made in the 90's. Make sure the Russians know that MANY of them will die should they decide further incursion into Ukraine, and that many of those deaths will be with our weapons.

Russians only understand brute strength, as JFK proved during the Cuban Missile Crisis. And the Middle East we should really stay away from. Support the Kurds though.
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