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Will A.I robots have human rights?
Posted 8/30/14
I think they would have worse rights than animals...
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First you have to ask yourself just what is a human exactly. When you do that you'll find out that they are very machine like.

I find many people saying "no, because they are not human." That's concerning for when, or if ever, we meet intelligent alien life. Would they not deserve rights just because they're not like humans?

Think of this. If we call it A.I (Artificial Intelligence) that means we take credit it making it and use artificial to keep it distant from our own coveted intelligence. We say it's artificial because it was made and not because it evolved on earth. Some may say it's artificial because god didn't make it. If god was the first thing in all of existence, he/she is then the only truly naturally existing thing and if you believe in creationism then god created us. Would that not make us A.I. to him?

There are many processes in our body which are required to sustain life. They are all important though one is the most important of all and that is the nervous system. The human body is essentially a system unit. The CPU is your brain and your brain requires and uses electrical signals to control many functions of the body. Involuntary and voluntary muscles movements are controlled and operated by this system which is the central hub for the nervous system (essentially electrical wiring) If it were not for this system you would not be able to function at all, you couldn't walk, you couldn't breath, you're heart would never start beating in the first place. There are so many similarities that I could write an entire essay on this, but I won't. The point I'm getting at is when you look at how things actually function electronics, machinery, and humans aren't all that different. It doesn't matter how it functions or what it's made of though, so long as something is sentient, self aware, and alive or "turned on" it deserves rights.

What it deserves and what it gets are two completely different things however. Once true A.I. is created there will be a lot of fear and a lot of prejudice. The problem with humans is that they learn really slow when it comes to how to treat others and other things in a better way; humans are idiotic in their own treatment of each other. Humans can barely be nice to each other let alone something we created. Introducing true A.I. to the world will be no different than if a ship suddenly arrived carrying a whole knew sentient race from another world. There will be a lot of hate, a lot of fear, and a lot of abuses. So things will never leave humanity so long as humanity exists. It will take a lot for humanity to accept A.I. as similar to them and deserving of individual rights.

I believe that when a "true" A.I. is created it will have feelings and emotions, it will be sentient, they will become individuals over time. When that happens, A.I. will be faced with one hell of a fight.
Posted 8/30/14
Not in the near future.
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Posted 8/30/14
I think we should appreciate our new robot overlords.
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Posted 8/30/14

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RedExodus wrote:

Frankly, I'm not too sure myself(damn you singularities) but I think we're going to get free goods and services. We're never gunna run out of supplies if the robots are good enough that they take over completely and run all of the production, producing them virtually for free.

This is what I picked up from economists' take on the singularity.


I just wonder because if everything's free, won't that mean people will only want the best of the best? I mean, a lot of the best stuff is hard to make or rare, so I'd have thought that'd be hard to pull off unless we can perfectly replicate everything synthetically and lightning fast.


3-D printing technology and etc. lol
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Posted 8/30/14

RedExodus wrote:


BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:


RedExodus wrote:

Frankly, I'm not too sure myself(damn you singularities) but I think we're going to get free goods and services. We're never gunna run out of supplies if the robots are good enough that they take over completely and run all of the production, producing them virtually for free.

This is what I picked up from economists' take on the singularity.


I just wonder because if everything's free, won't that mean people will only want the best of the best? I mean, a lot of the best stuff is hard to make or rare, so I'd have thought that'd be hard to pull off unless we can perfectly replicate everything synthetically and lightning fast.


3-D printing technology and etc. lol


All hail the human race's new saviour: 3D printers!
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Posted 8/30/14
sounds like some of ya'll need to watch Star Trek: The Next Generation for an entire episode dedicated to this issue, please refer to "The Measure of a Man"
Posted 8/30/14
Heh.... this topic reminds me of I-Robot
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Posted 8/30/14

BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:

I doubt it. It'll take more than just looks for me to do that. They'd need to be able to properly show all kinds of emotion for me to come close to doing that, and even then, if you were essentially going to make them a mechanical human, you might as well give a real person a job than one of them. I think that having robots that can do everything from being mechanics to cashiers is going to severely backfire. Sure that'll make life easier, but when you've got no jobs left how's anyone going to make any money?


You don't need to do anything to get money, they just hand you a check or debit an account every two weeks.
computers are ridiculously precise by nature, and do not make mistakes. They will be able to do everything better than humans, so essentially they'll turn into babysitters for humankind.

That said, it doesn't prevent people from doing what they want to do, it just means that all critical functions will move to robots.
If you want to invent something, they won't stop you, if you want to draw or paint something, go ahead. You could also hoard your wealth, or sell things, anything you could normally do with your money. If you wish to enter a poker tournament, go right ahead. They won't change the fact that not everybody is going to get a yacht, but they can make sure everybody is warm, fed, clothed, watered, and has an internet connection and good healthcare.
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Posted 8/30/14 , edited 8/30/14
A separate set of rights would have to be drafted for sentient, sapient machines which accounts for their distinguishing characteristics. You couldn't simply copy/paste human rights for machines.


BLACKOUTMK2 wrote:

I doubt it. It'll take more than just looks for me to do that. They'd need to be able to properly show all kinds of emotion for me to come close to doing that, and even then, if you were essentially going to make them a mechanical human, you might as well give a real person a job than one of them. I think that having robots that can do everything from being mechanics to cashiers is going to severely backfire. Sure that'll make life easier, but when you've got no jobs left how's anyone going to make any money?


If all production and services were entirely automated (that is, were all labor markets to simultaneously and permanently dissolve) you'd have to enact a mode of distribution which doesn't depend on peoples' labor input. You'd have to either establish a guaranteed income which could then be spent as the consumer pleases in a socialized market composed of state-owned firms or set up a rationing system distributing goods to households according to a set plan.

I strongly recommend the market mode since it decentralizes the distribution process and therefore is able to account for localized demand shifts both individually and in real time. It also resolves your dilemma concerning rare items and those which are difficult to produce, as these would carry a higher price and have to be saved for.
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Posted 8/30/14 , edited 8/30/14

oneouts123 wrote:

In 20 years (maybe sooner) we will have robots that will look and act human. They would first start of looking like the guys from I Robot but then will look like the bots from Almost Human. Do you think we will treat them as object or humans?



What makes you think we will have robots in 20 years?But to answer your question probably not,as human rights belong to humans.Unless the A.I. becomes so advance that the only way to differenciate a robot from a human is if you find their power source.If that were the case,then I guess robots should be given human rights and responsibilities.
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Posted 8/30/14
humans dont have a great track record of giving humans human rights.
if your group is big enough, you can get away with murder.
so, no.
as a race, we suck.
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Posted 8/30/14
no because humans are fucking idiots.
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Posted 8/30/14
human emotion can actually be controlled or manipulated by certain methods
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Posted 8/30/14

ddtankerz wrote:

Japan will make Vocaloid real soon


They already have a Miku robot.
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