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Posted 9/3/14 , edited 9/17/16
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Hello Crunchyroll Staff, (or whoever is reading this, it is directed to Crunchyroll staff)

I have "something" to say. In my country (NOT US state) Georgia, Cruchyroll is horrible. All the Anime available in my country is ether a horrible Anime, boring anime or just too popular/overrated. Basically there are lot of good stuff blocked. Worst thing is that we have to be Premium to watch them in good quality or just when they came out. I am not against Going for Premium, but nobody would go premium for what horrible and low amount of Anime available for the specific country.

I also made a video about this, showing what anime is available for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybDzmQlhb_A

Can't Crunchyroll staff do anything about this please? Or it has to do with Publishers and licenses and all other stuff an anime Fan really cares not about?

Oh and a confusing thing: SAO II is available while the first season isn't.

Oh and am I the only one suffering with this? As much as I want to support anime creators and watch anime legally I just find it not possible because a lot of good shows are blocked.

My suggestion here is to make everything available worldwide.

Also my country is in both Europe and Asia (one of those border countrys) But only content for Asia is available. -_-

Can anything be done?

Giorgi,
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Maybe some other site has the streaming rights for your region (seems to be the case for SAO). That, or Crunchyroll isn't getting support from other regions that they decided to limit what those regions can watch.
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Posted 9/4/14 , edited 9/4/14

MrKenkadze27 wrote: Can't Crunchyroll staff do anything about this please? Or it has to do with Publishers and licenses and all other stuff an anime Fan really cares not about?

I'm not Crunchyroll staff, but I've seen them answer this question, including both a member of support staff and the CEO during Reddit "Ask Me Anything" sessions ...

... its the licensors. Crunchyroll asks for everything, with rights to everywhere outside of Japan, and then the licensors decide what they want to license to Crunchyroll, and for what license territories.

(1) A lot of the "hits" of a season are licensed by a home video distributor in North America, like Sentai or Aniplex of America or NIS America, and "sub-licensed" to Crunchyroll. Crunchyroll has had some success in getting those companies to ask for broader streaming rights, but that has mostly been South America, Australia/New Zealand, South Africa, UK & Northern Europe. Most of Europe, as well as the Middle East and most of Africa, are still left out of those "sub-licenses".

(2) And when Crunchyroll does get a direct license, different companies have different definitions of regions, and so its a patchwork of who gets what. Even whether Georgia is counted as "Europe" or "Asia" can be up in the air, because of the old Soviet Union being put in a different DVD region back in the 90's ... so sometimes former Warsaw Block countries like Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary get access when former Soviet Republics like Georgia or the Ukraine are blocked.

(3) And that is for series that were licensed as simulcasts ... for "old" series that are added to Crunchyroll as catalog titles, they are normally added by North American home video distributors, under fairly old licenses that were written just for DVD / videocassette / cable distribution, and are normally North American only. Most "catalog" titles available outside of North America were ones that started as simulcasts, and Crunchyroll has been able to extend the streaming license because nobody wanted to pick the series up.
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If you have a set of anime that is available only to premium members in your country, that is because TV Tokyo has a license where they give rights to free and premium members to one set of countries, where there are established markets for streaming ads, and on top of that wider "worldwide outside of Japan" and "worldwide outside of Asia" licenses for premium members.

One thing that you described in your comment was the type of anime that Georgia tends to get. That is a side effect of the two problems above. Different licensors have a tendency to focus on anime of a particular type. So one licensor will tend to pick up licenses for popular Shonen fighting and mecha anime, another will tend to pick up licenses for "cute girls doing nothing cutely" anime, and so on.

Countries that get a lot of coverage from a lot of licensors, like the UK or Brazil or South Africa, will not notice this so much, but countries that only get a small amount of licenses, like Georgia or the Democratic Republic of Congo or Singapore, will notice that their anime is mostly a few types, because most of their anime was licensed from just one or a few different licensors, who happened to specialize in that type.

Crunchyroll's international coverage has been improving, but there are still some areas, like most of Sub-Saharan Africa and various regions in Europe, where Crunchyroll still only gets access for under a quarter of its new simulcasts.

So if you are in that situation, all you can really do within the Crunchyroll Terms & Conditions is decide whether what is available to you is worth it ... if its not, either don't subscribe, watching what is available to free members with ads and in SD, or else subscribe for a month near the end of a broadcast season, catch up on the anime that are of interest to you in that month, and then cancel the subscription again before it rolls over.

If I was living in my wife's country of the Democratic Republic of Congo (which AFAIU gets even less stuff than Georgia gets), that second is what I would do ... subscribe around the second week of March, June, October and December, and catch up on the limited supply available on Crunchyroll. The second week so I could also see the beginning of the next season, in case I got lucky and there were some series worth getting a three-month subscription for.

Outside of regions that have their own dedicated streaming services, like Australia, the UK, France, Germany, or China (among other examples), the best sources to look for additional anime are Daisuki.net, which doesn't have much, but does have a few series with wide regional distribution, Viki (and kind of ditto, plus a lot of what they do have are old "classics", but they also have a variety of live action from all sorts of different countries that are available with different region rights), and the different official Youtube channels like GundamInfo.


tlegoman wrote: Maybe some other site has the streaming rights for your region (seems to be the case for SAO). That, or Crunchyroll isn't getting support from other regions that they decided to limit what those regions can watch.

Because streaming licenses are based on sharing revenue (both ad revenue and subscription revenue) to pay royalties, Crunchyroll doesn't have a minimum level of support that they need to add a country onto an existing contract. But its certainly possible that some licensors won't license a country or a region for very low revenue, because it feels like "almost giving away the rights for free".

Some licensors, like TV Tokyo (which owns a minority stake in Crunchyroll) have a more sensible approach than that ... after all, in reality any money from a region that is not going to generate a bid from a local company is better than no money at all ... but its likely that some licensors are still stuck in thinking that made more sense ten year's ago, and doesn't fit the modern internet streaming market.
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Posted 9/4/14 , edited 9/4/14
OK, I read it all, I understand. So I'll just have to stay with whatever I have or just cheat my way. So, I can say that my country is out of the question because there aren't many anime fans here and those who are, they don't even know Crunchyroll exists.
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MrKenkadze27 wrote: OK, I read it all, I understand. So I'll just have to stay with whatever I have or just cheat my way. So, I can say that my country is out of the question because there aren't many anime fans here and those who are, they don't even know Crunchyroll exists.

Not out of the question ... after all, two years ago there were zero series that were licensed to "Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic and Slovakia" by name, and now it happens ever season, on top of "All Europe" licenses.

So its not like there is no hope at all of progress ... but there is no certainty, and even when there is progress, its still pretty slow.

The good thing is that Crunchyroll always asks for more regions, so if a licensor changes their approach, there won't be any obstruction from Crunchyroll's side.

(And of course there are "non-conventional" means, but those are normally left for discussion outside of Crunchyroll itself.)

I'm actually heading to China in a couple of weeks, which is a country that has even less region access for anime than Georgia ... so I have been leaving the few series with Chinese access to catch up on when I get there, as well as Manga, which for some reason has much better region access than anime (I think manga is more often like "International English language rights" and "International Chinese language rights", and only a couple of regions where someone has paid extra for exclusive rights get blocked).
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Posted 9/22/14 , edited 11/29/14
But If I think about it, it doesn't make sense...
Why can't there be a worldwide licensing? If it's about them earning money, making everything world wide will earn them a lot, instead going country by country. I mean for http://www.crunchyroll.com/yokuwakaru-gendai-maho this anime example, this is a very horrible anime, so bad that it can be only watched as a torture/punishment, why did crunchyroll licensed it anyway? It's even available in my country, what money it's gonna give them from here? it not gonna earn them much money. Why don't they go for more good stuff like Higurashi or Clannad or Steins;Gate or Fullmetal alchemist or ETC. Also making everything worldwide will reduce the piracy. I mean isn't that what Japan wants? (They are gonna fail in their operation anyway.) I mean this example: "Look a new anime came out, looks like crunchyroll failed to deliver it in my country and it's blocked, time to go to [H***i***Subs], a good group of people who rip from Crunchyroll to download and watch it.". I mean to watch it I can also use a Proxy server but they are very slow, even on 100Mbps connection, plus I don't wanna sign in to a premium account with a proxy.

Look, I am a fan asking to watch anime legally.
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Posted 9/22/14
I'll be honest, I did noticed more anime since last time I checked but they are still not enough...
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Posted 9/22/14

MrKenkadze27 wrote:

Why don't they go for more good stuff like Higurashi or Clannad or Steins;Gate or Fullmetal alchemist or ETC.

CR doesn't even have those for the US. (They did have Steins;Gate as a simulcast when it was originally broadcast, but it was removed by Kadokawa after Funimation licensed it). Both Fullmetal Alchemist and Clannad are licensed by other companies.

As for why more titles are licensed worldwide, that is up to the publishers in Japan, not CR. For older titles, some will already have existing contracts with other distributors in some countries.

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Posted 11/29/14 , edited 4/10/15
I noticed little more stuff got available in my country. That's good. Thanks Crunchyroll. But it's still not enough.
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Posted 4/10/15 , edited 4/30/15
To Crunchyroll staff:

Ok, I'm pissed now. New season, new anime, and.... only just few available in my country while around 30 available in other regions. Looks like Crunchyroll still divides it's audience depending on their country. Well, screw you Crunchyroll! I lost all hope and I no longer believe in Crunchyroll. Looks like I'll be leaching from a good people who actually cares about everyone. And even if I move to another country you guys care, or make everything available everywhere, I will still never access this site nor get a premium.

Regards.

I mean these are all I have, I guess Grisaia is OK, but other stuff are the kind I would never touch or even care.
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If you use a VPN you can see everything. Crunchyroll still isn't worth it imo if you don't live in us or similar countries. Still nice if you want to support the industry I guess... I prefer free streaming sites.
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_Cecilia wrote:... I prefer free streaming sites.

Those get a thumbs down from me

For all its shortcomings, CR actually gives a share to the creators/property owners of their earnings. Free streaming sites get advertising money but give absolutely nothing back. If you have to use them, at least use something like adblock to prevent that. I prefer downloads, more of a hassle but at least it's more ethical in that regard...

And yes, I too am a non-US resident, and every news season there's shows that won't show up here. But I pay for my CR subscription, both because I want to give my support, but also I guess because most of the stuff I watch elsewhere were theirs to begin with...


If you use a VPN you can see everything.

Not too sure the use of a vpn to access stuff otherwise unavailable on CR is that well regarded in view of their rules... ?
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I also pay for a crunchyroll subscription, even though i don't use it.I could download too but I don't have enough space on my computer. So basically the only way for me to watch anime is to use those kind of sites. I sometimes buy anime, but I don't have too much money to spend on those kind of things. And about the vpn thing, it's not really noticeable if you use a vpn so it doesn't really matter.

Btw how is downloading it more ethical?
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Well, I'm not expert in international business, but I believe there is not 'worldwide licensing' because the world has countries, which have many different governments, etc... Globalization might have united -or at least in theory, world's countries in economic affairs, but not really in business matters. Therefore, businesses such as anime distributors will have contracts (licensing contracts) to whoever pay better in an specific region.
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Gracias2 wrote:


If you use a VPN you can see everything.

Not too sure the use of a vpn to access stuff otherwise unavailable on CR is that well regarded in view of their rules... ?


No, it's a violation of the /ToS.
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