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Post Reply A lot of Anime is blocked in my country.
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Posted 9/12/15 , edited 9/15/15
Who ever thought streaming anime country by country (only available in specific places), needs to be slapped on the face really hard.

OK, sure I can just purchase it when blu-ray comes out in the US few weeks/months later. (Which is a pain because shipping to the forwarding address to ship to my country from US, and paying a lot more takes time and money), but I wanna see it now
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Posted 9/16/15 , edited 9/16/15

MrKenkadze27 wrote:

Who ever thought streaming anime country by country (only available in specific places), needs to be slapped on the face really hard.


Well if each regions is $10,000 for example and 98% of regions don't have enough revenue then it's a very smart thing business wise that country regions exist.

How many countries are there in the world and times that by $10,000.
Then say where is the money going to come from to pay for it all?
CR might put you on there management team if you have a fantastic idea.
You said it yourself that anime studios rely on CR. So they can't afford to pay less so go on where is 25 to 50 shows for each country in the world, revenue wise going to come from? Make every internet subscriber in the world pay for CR is they like it or not is the only way I can think of.

That CR is a 3rd party business and it's goal is to have a profit. Paying for shows in regions that don't have much in the way of revenue is going to be a a major drag on money. Even if you pay the $7 or whatever it costs in your region. Where is the rest of the money to pay for things meant to come from?

In terms of shows you pretty much already have the world wide or nothing approach... The rest of the titles are pretty much just sub-licenses, Or regions where it just isn't worth it to broadcast it.

All it will take is for one region to say no I want this title as a exclusive (which happens quite a bit) and well another show can't be on here even if it is able to be for 99.9% of the world.

Some regions and services that CR has to complete with.
Germany's peppermint service. Australia and NZ's animelab service. UK's animaxtv service.
CR is not the only anime legal streaming site in the world. CR, daisuki and viewster are the only world wide ones most are tied to particular regions.

While your frustration is real there is nothing that will change how current business works. Unless you think of a way to prop up regions that have next to no revenue. Your "they need a slap" "they are stupid etc" is not going to change that.

Try websites such as www.Daisuki.net and http://viewster.com/ if they have any shows in your region.
If viewster and daisuki has nothing/next to nothing in your region that proves that even 100% ad supported streaming services struggle in a lot of regions.
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Posted 9/24/15 , edited 9/24/15
Ok, so Daisuki seems to have less stuff, but they seem to be stuff I wouldn't turn away just looking at their cover (unlike on CR). Viewster only offers 2 anime that looks like it's cr*p by looking at their cover.

It's been over a year since I created this topic. It's unfortunate that Crunchyroll was unable to get rid of this problem. (Not that I expect anything anymore.)
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Posted 1/28/16 , edited 1/28/16
Happy new year everyone, I wanted to post earlier but I was waiting for TBD's to disappear but whatever.
Anyway, here are titles available in my country.

Oh, looks like we're still doing this.. OK...
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I am a huge proponent of the Anime industry but I think that the site would be able to support that community much more if there were some changes. I think that new episodes ought to be released for free two weeks after the original release day, not one week. I for one as a consumer don't mind waiting one week in order to watch the show- but if I had to wait two weeks I'd much rather buy the membership. As for the benefits of becoming a member. I think that there ought to be more commercial breaks honestly (currently I just use them in order to get snacks); in addition to the commercial at the beginning and end of the video, the commercial after the opening song and the commercial before the ending song, I believe that having two commercials within the episode itself would prompt people to want to buy the Premium membership more. I have other ideas that I also think would help support the company and build the industry. A point system: everytime a member watches an anime epis ode they get one point for every minute watched. Once they get two thousand points they get a $20 certificate for Crunchyroll store items. Maybe they can save up their points to get something more expensive- but the most they can use for purchase using certificates is $80. Maybe Crunchyroll would offer digital petitions that can be signed and sent to the series animators (something to keep Crunchyroll unique). Perhaps item discounts in the store are only available to paying members. Also that members can add certain series to their wishlist, and when a new season comes out they receive a notification. On the info page for each series there would be a section that provides updates on the show (whether their are any sequels or prequels, whether their are any announcements for future seasons, and whether or not the show is on-going). Maybe those pages would also have a wikia like setup where members can browse character bios, back story on the show, etc. Maybe the website would also have a section for anime bands. Where you can view info and music for various openings and endings of anime shows as well as read about the bands themselves. Perhaps members would also be able to personalize how they view pages by using themes, rearranging page info, and setting backgrounds. Lastly I think that Crunchyroll should off far more anime and videos. I was surprised to see that many of my favorite animes are not available on the site. I often end up going to unreliable and virus-rigged sites in order to view my shows because they are unavailable on Crunchyroll. But I know for sure that these are still quite popular shows. Most of the time friends and I check Crunchyroll, etc. first to see whether or not they have the show, but then we usually give up. Classics like The Twelve Kingdoms, or shows like Venus Project Climax, Code Breaker, Soul Eater NOT, Owari No Seraph; Seraph of the End(!), Kenichi: The Mightiest Disciple, Noragami Aragoto, etc. And movies are some of the mo st difficult to find safe sites for. Spirited Away, Little Nemo: Adventures in Slumberland, Kiki's Delivery Service, My Neighbor Totoro, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, The Place Promised in Our Early Days, Children Who Chase Lost Voices, or The Princess and The Pilot. I hope the best for the company and the industry.

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Posted 1/28/16 , edited 9/22/17

UprisingDestin89 wrote:
So how can I watch Bleach then?


Unless it's available from a local streaming service or CR is able to expand their regions, I'm afraid you're out of legal options without importing the home media from another region.
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Posted 10/14/17 , edited 10/14/17
Honestly I would much rather have catalog than simulcast. The point is to be able to watch the show eventually. So long as you have options for what to watch, what does it matter whether you can watch it one hour, one day or one year after the original release in Japan?

At the moment I'm also a subscriber at Netflix and it's the same BS there as well. I feel like my options are getting alarmingly low after some months of subscription. Also some shows are behind on seasons which would have been ok, had I more options to occupy myself with.

On the other hand, the games industry with the advent of digital distribution has totally shifted to it and due to sales every now and then, even old games are still marketable enough, games that would have probably stopped selling if we were still focused on physical copy distribution.

Licensing gets in the way of everything. You pay for a streaming service, you expect two things mainly, enough content and good streaming. If they can't provide it, what's the point in long term subscription? You end up subscribing for 1-6 months and then cancel it because it no longer makes sense.

How does that help anyone?!
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Honestly, crunchy roll does not care for Europe... I'm getting tired of this, is just a matter of time until I withdraw my subscription...
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Posted 10/14/17 , edited 10/15/17

npatch wrote:
How does that help anyone?!


It's not about helping anyone, especially Crunchyroll, since they get nothing but complaints about it. It's always been about (Japan) making money from licencors, whether they are streamers, TV broadcasters, Disk producers, etc.

In times past, the production committees in Japan were able to make more overall by accepting exclusive offers in localized regions from different companies, who, at the time, may have only been interested in one aspect of the business, and maybe only a country or two out of the grouping that Japan was offering, so they let a lot of rights sit unfulfilled, and aren't interested in ceding them to anyone else.

There are also some different divisions of associated distributors for the same show. Aniplex of America vs the main Aniplex in Japan, (Or Wakanim in France for that matter). There's also Toei US vs Toei Europe cover different parts of the world. It's not like there is a one-stop place to order "all the shows", there are many different committees each with their own agendas. Licensing is very complicated.

Older shows already have their licensing locked up, making it difficult or impossible to expand regions, or even get those older shows at all. CR has more clout nowadays, so with brand new new series coming out each season, they can make the offer to get all/more regions up front. But going back means trying to find who already has the license in each region, and it's usually direct competitors, who, even if they are using only disk, or only TV, aren't usually interested in diluting their perceived market by letting someone else stream.

Yes, I understand it is frustrating, but it's a business operating on capitalistic principles; it's not a social club or hobby, even though we all might wish it was.
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Posted 5/11/16 , edited 5/11/16

AlucardTepesPT wrote:

Honestly, crunchy roll does not care for Europe... I'm getting tired of this, is just a matter of time until I withdraw my subscription...


Our ultimate aim is to have content parity for new series in all regions that we serve. If you check out the current season, you can tell that we're already getting much closer than before. As for catalog series, that is much harder to achieve, as the number of players involved in the market is even higher than for simulcast, which makes the license situation very complicated.
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Posted 10/15/17 , edited 10/15/17
Yeah, I wanted to edit my post to add a PS after I posted yesterday but I didn't see it last so thought my post was up for moderation or something . The order of the posts here is weird :P.

My post wasn't meant as complaint against CR,just taking my frustration towards the outdated licensing models they still use to export anime from Japan, hence my comment on the games industry and platforms like Steam or Humble Bundle or GoG.com. I think it would be profit them more to follow the games industry example. Not to mention they'd have access to even more users by doing so. Licensing per country/region is a restriction towards the final consumers. And I reckon people would pay double CR's subscription fee if they could have on-demand access to a lot of content , old or new. I would at least. I also don't think that would mess with physical copies that much. Japanese people have been buying physical copies of shows they loved even though they can just record everything straight from TV.

In Netflix I had the misfortune to start a great show, but due to licensing issues, they couldn't secure the third season, but they managed with the fourth. So I can't really move on. Not until they manage to get the rights for the third season. As if licensing BS messing with a whole show was not enough, it had to mess with individual seasons of a show that's available as well. It negates the choice people make to go the legal path. And that's on the source. The people deciding who to license to. That's what I meant by "how does that help anyone" at the end.
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Posted 10/22/17 , edited 10/22/17

npatch wrote:

Yeah, I wanted to edit my post to add a PS after I posted yesterday but I didn't see it last so thought my post was up for moderation or something . The order of the posts here is weird :P.

My post wasn't meant as complaint against CR,just taking my frustration towards the outdated licensing models they still use to export anime from Japan, hence my comment on the games industry and platforms like Steam or Humble Bundle or GoG.com. I think it would be profit them more to follow the games industry example. Not to mention they'd have access to even more users by doing so. Licensing per country/region is a restriction towards the final consumers. And I reckon people would pay double CR's subscription fee if they could have on-demand access to a lot of content , old or new. I would at least. I also don't think that would mess with physical copies that much. Japanese people have been buying physical copies of shows they loved even though they can just record everything straight from TV.

In Netflix I had the misfortune to start a great show, but due to licensing issues, they couldn't secure the third season, but they managed with the fourth. So I can't really move on. Not until they manage to get the rights for the third season. As if licensing BS messing with a whole show was not enough, it had to mess with individual seasons of a show that's available as well. It negates the choice people make to go the legal path. And that's on the source. The people deciding who to license to. That's what I meant by "how does that help anyone" at the end.


What show you were watching? I'm just curious
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Posted 10/22/17 , edited 10/22/17

What show you were watching? I'm just curious :)


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2303687/

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Posted 12/31/17 , edited 12/31/17
Well...in Bulgaria a lot of anime is blocked. Thankfully not every good anime is, but most are blocked.
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