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I searched the forum and didn't find a thread like this, surpisingly, so I thought I would make one.

What are your views on using animals in laboratory tests? Do you think it is right or wrong and please state your opinion.
I personally think that if it is unavoidable, animals can be used in medical science, because it is for an overall good cause (not always, but more often than not). However, I am wholly against using animals to test cosmetics, simply because it is unnecessary and extremely selfish. We do not need cosmetics to survive, so there is no need to sacrifice life for it.

So what is CR's opinion? for/against and why. And please refrain from flaming people because of their views.
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I am totally against testing on animals for cosmetic reasons, because, not only are cosmetics not vital to survive, but you are also harming animals simply to make yourself look good.
Testing on animals for medical reasons is, in my eyes, wrong as well because you are harming an innocent animal, when there often isn't even a high success rate and the animals are often treated horrifically. I've seen dogs kicked to death, rats with BLEACH put in their eyes, and acid injected into rabbits, just because the scientists were bored.
Thus being the reason that I am TOTALLY against ANY kind of animal testing.
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I've seen dogs kicked to death, rats with BLEACH put in their eyes, and acid injected into rabbits, just because the scientists were bored.


Boredom does not count as a medical reason... Do you think it's wrong to use them for research? I do agree that the conditions the animals are kept in are often appauling, but if it can make a major breakthrough in science such as a cure for cancer which can save the lives of millions, is it still wrong?
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Boredom does NOT count as scientific research, but, because they were bored with the research, they done the aforementioned actions (if that makes any sense)
This is a somewhat difficult topic, because it's difficult to answer the question directly due to there being both positives and negatives of animal testing for medical reasons. If I had to choose however, I'd have to be a hypocrite and completely disregard my previous post. Animal testing is acceptable if it is the final resort and there is a high success rate. The question "What would you prefer; the death of an animal, or the death of a relative?" is often posed to show this point of view because people would often place a relatives life at a higher priority than that of an animal. Animal testing is also acceptable if the animals are treated well and are not abused.
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All around the world, people abuse animals, people eat all kinds of animals. Yes its creepy, yes its freaky, and yes...its TRUE (The City "Canto" In China, is a place where long as you're a living thing, you're eatable in their sense...they eat everything, worms, poisoning fish/bug/animal...even First degree protected animals are found there to be ate...long as you have enough money...you may even get pandas..)

there's always the big question "Should or should not?" All living things are made in "whomever's" image...All things are equal on a degree. Because the most basic laws of life is "Born, Live, Die"

Now, personally, I think its completely cruel to do "any" kind of testing on "any" kind of animal(s), even if its for the sake of man kind. E.g: testing new medical thingys on Rats. its cruel, its unfair, think of your self in the place of the poor animal to be born and just to be used...It's cold, its fate...

Though there always comes in the picture, should or should not, To some degree, Animal testing is unavoidable...For example, to be tested on for the safety of new medicine and/or new theory that may save lives of many humans. Or to be tested to see if something can be cured...

Thus, ginny pig...we'll always use ginny pigs, we'll always protest because its cruel..but its life...Is it really any crueler than the meat that you eat every night for dinner? What about the Chicken your mother used to make "Chicken Soup"?

As for animal testing on.."Unneeded things" again, its their fate...Not to sound blunt or anything; i'm only telling the truth, not because I like it or want it. Even if the tests are being conducted on is "unneeded"...People pay money for it, so therefore its needed for some..like testing perfumes on Cats/Dogs that some company use to do...It's insane...its unfair...Just because they can't speak their mind, they're being used, just because they're not smart enough to rebel, they're being used; being killed; being abused...

Its Cruel, its the animals' Fate...And the Nature of "need and carelessness against the good of another" Of Humans...>_< Even if most people know it shouldn't be done, not many is taking it in to their hands and actually start doing something to change the Fate of those unlucky animals; maybe its because there are many other problems to be solved before them; maybe its just because of our most common nature too Lazy

it can't be helped...I'm against Animal testing, yet I'm for it; because it can't be helped..>_<
Posted 2/1/08
I don`t think that using animals for research is wrong . However , torturing them ' for the name of science ' or whatever crap scientist say like the cosmetic thing is not acceptable and different from ' using them for research ' . According to the bible ... or my Christian Living / Religion teacher , humans were created to take care of animals , not to hurt them in any way . Hurting animals in laboratories that`s avoidable is no different from animal cruelty . I don`t think scientists have the right to use animals to satisfy their curiosity that`s not even useful aka cosmetics .
Using animals for medical purposes is understandable but make-up is not a medical purpose . We don`t need it to survive , as insane_killer_bunny has said . Making a rat have cancer , write down observations while it`s suffering , experiment a treatment on it that has a high possibility of failing is cruel . Disecting animals in school just so students can see what`s inside although half the class will surely puke is just disturbing . We`re going to disect rats maybe this month and I thought it was pretty cool . Thinking about it now , I don`t really care what`s inside . A lot of people have done it . All I have to do is search it up on the net and I can even see pictures .

To sum that up , using animals for a possible scientific breakthrough is okay but experimenting on animals for something useless is not .
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i am ok with it
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There is, however, a moral difference between eating an animal and testing on an animal. The latter is acceptable in some ways to aid the progression of the human race, whereas the former is an individual need to survive. The latter may only affect those with the illness being studied (eg, cancer) whereas, the former affects everyone.
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i am ok with it


The topic is EXTENDED Discussion, so if you're going to say something, it would be appreciated if you'd care to give reasons.

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That be super awsome 2 test at ur anime person!!!
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IcyHeart448 said:
That be super awsome 2 test at ur anime person!!!


......sorry, what?
Posted 2/1/08
wrong.
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Hmmm this is really tough...I really don't like the idea of using animals as test objects but if it's for a good cause (medicine, cure for cancer or something) then I guess there would be no choice, since we clearly can't test on humans (I'm guessing)...

I'm against animal testing if it's for cosmetic products though, people shouldn't go so far for beauty...I wouldn't want a living thing to die for the cause of ensuring that your lip gloss is safe >_>
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le1chi wrote:

Hmmm this is really tough...I really don't like the idea of using animals as test objects but if it's for a good cause (medicine, cure for cancer or something) then I guess there would be no choice, since we clearly can't test on humans (I'm guessing)...

I'm against animal testing if it's for cosmetic products though, people shouldn't go so far for beauty...I wouldn't want a living thing to die for the cause of ensuring that your lip gloss is safe >_>


We can test on humans, but it is a very controversial subject, seeing as in the early stages of developing a medicine, there are so many things that can go wrong and the subjects can end up dead. Testing on humans is usually the final stage of drugs testing, after animals with similar DNA patterns to ours have been used first. Having said that, there are people who would be willing to be part of a scientific experiment for money. Human test subjects are often paid a lot of money to be part of an experiment.
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Go go go small animals. Take one for the human race
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