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Where Does Life Begin?
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At conception.
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34 / F / I dont speak english
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I'm 100% for abortion, so the logical way to think will be "life start at birth" inst it ?

Well thats not that easy.

Unless its liveable by itsefl, its not worth more than a liver or a pancreas. The identity you give them is in your beliefs. The projection you make of that life that will eventually be make you belive its someone. But at this very moment, until 24 weeks of pregnancy, its not liveable. Therefore, it doesnt fit in the "human being" category.

What after? There its different. I would admit im not sure. Are we alive when we get a identity? When we are know and can have interaction with the world arround us consciously?

Does someone in a very deep vegetative state is really "alive" ... Do they have a soul? What is soul, and when does it enter the body and mind. Most people will tell you its at the conception and not at birth. That notion hit people pretty hard somehow. So, when do we start to be "someone" insteed of "something" ?

Because im here to protect the idea of abortion and abortion rights, I will say its at birth. But If you want me to be troughtfull with myself... i'll say "Idk" ...

Since life start at birth, it is currently impossible to impose something to a mother in order to protect her baby.
Example:
Mary is a junkie, she smoke crack and is heavy on Crystal Meth. Johnny, her BF, get her pregnant. While seeing his GF pregnant is a wake up call for him, he cant force Mary to stop taking drugs trought pregnancy even tho its sure to be bad and affect the baby that will prolly be born with physical and mental handicaps. If legally life started at conception, Johnny could protect his unborn baby. Since life start at birth, abortion is legal but Johnny cant save his unborn baby.

We still want to protect the future life of the baby... or do we want to protect "the baby" there a difference.

And you know... we will never have the answer to that question =P

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Life begins, when god wills it to, then it is up to you if you want it to begin too, life ends the same way sometimes, it is your choice when your life will end or begin,and if God wills it so. ^^
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when i chose it to be
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I believe life begins at conception. And I'm strongly against abortion, because I consider that killing a human being, whether it's born or not.
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25 / M / Uh... here
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Some people here don't really seem to understand the point of "Extended discussion" threads, which is that you can't post short, pointless posts. If you don't have an opinion, or if you're just agreeing with someone else, shut the hell up.

Anyway, if you think about it, a sperm is alive, so is an egg, so when they first join is when it becomes a new living human, but it is only one cell. Any stem cell has the potential to be grown into another human with the right techniques, but they don't count as people. Living cells in your body die every day and you don't care at all, they're just cells. So the question isn't really "When is it alive?" it's more like "When is it a separate human, and when is it wrong to kill it?" I'm not religious or anything, so I don't really know what god thinks about it but in general he seems to be against killing. The definition of "alive" for a human being is generally seen as breathing, having a pulse and so on, but I personally have gone without either of those for a while and I'm pretty damn sure I'm alive now, and I was then, and I wouldn't be too happy if someone decided it was okay for me to die. For a person to be alive their brain stem has to be functioning, even someone missing most of their brain, or all of their cerebral cortex, can live as long as they are looked after, so surely a foetus should be seen as alive when their brain switches on? I personally wouldn't want to let my girlfriend kill her baby even if she got pregnant now (16), mostly because everyone I've ever known to do it has regretted it, and my mum had a child at 16 and I'm pretty damn happy to have my sister. I know this isn't about abortion but I felt like saying that.

Just to summarize: They're alive when their brain works, but they have the potential to live before then so don't go killing embryos.


Edit: Haha it's like schrodingers cat, but with a foetus, and not really at all. If you kill a foetus, is it alive before then? Or was it neither until you killed it? Either way, it's dead now. Feel the guilt.
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Posted 2/6/08
live begins when
IT
YOU
HE
SHE
THEY
know they are alive
i call it the realise of living
Posted 2/6/08
When mommy and daddy do the 'dirty dirty'...
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27 / M / Nowhere :D
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Posted 2/6/08
i think everything matters and starts in high school, i mean it matters starting elementary, but high school and up is meaningful

i mean you learn how to get/have/lost/fight friends
make choices to do bad things or not
the whole sex things
girls
leading on to college
life,etc

i say high school
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24 / M / Singapore
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life begins when you truely learn to enjoy life itself , some people might never discover this throughout their entire life while some poeple just know it .hehe
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24 / F / boring, bland ohio
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I think life begins when you are born and not at conception.
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when ur parent FUCK ur out
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29 / M / California
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It happens when you hit level 10
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29 / F
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from conception, its proven that after a very short time not sure if its days or weeks but iw atched a documentry on it and u can see a baby with its tiny fingers and toes and heart etc and its literally abt the size of ur own finger. but its devloped into this tiny minature human already.

u cnt say life begins wen ur born becos wen u look at ur own baby on a scan moving around or kicking ur belly that baby is alive inside of u already experiencing how to live and move.
Posted 2/6/08
Life begins when your head pops out your mom. Before that its pretty boring and the scenery is very repetitive
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