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Anime Fandom In Changing Times
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AiYumega wrote:The only thing I heavily disagree with is the dub issue. I hate English dubs in anime, and always will, and people who say they don't watch subs because they can't read or it's too fast really grind my gears.


I know what you mean. It grinds my gears when people say they don't take the stairs because they can't walk or it's too many floors. I hate elevators.

On a less impish note, there's no real reason to change how people think. Let them be who they are without ridicule.
Posted 9/9/14

Kavalion wrote:


AiYumega wrote:The only thing I heavily disagree with is the dub issue. I hate English dubs in anime, and always will, and people who say they don't watch subs because they can't read or it's too fast really grind my gears.


I know what you mean. It grinds my gears when people say they don't take the stairs because they can't walk or it's too many floors. I hate elevators.

On a less impish note, there's no real reason to change how people think. Let them be who they are without ridicule.


I do hate elevators. Got stuck in them all the time. Had to rip the door open once.
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It grinds your gears when people don't subbed anime but enjoy dubs? I enjoy dubs and subs. Where exactly do I stand in this?
Posted 9/9/14

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It grinds your gears when people don't subbed anime but enjoy dubs? I enjoy dubs and subs. Where exactly do I stand in this?



Neutral like Switzerland. And rightfully so.

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I would make a Hetalia joke but I'm not sure I should.
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It's funny, because15 years ago I was in the same place. I thought Dragonball Z was the stupidest thing I had ever seen and I was tired of trying to explain why I thought Akira was just OK. There seemed to be this big gap between anime as an underground thing that few people knew about and the stuff that was on TV on Saturdays and in the afternoon. The thing is, it's not about anime as a community. The medium will take care of itself. It's about how each person relates to it individually. If you can accept that the worldwide popularity of dubs and subs or even AOT and SAO will have almost no impact whatsoever on what comes out of Japan, then what other people like shouldn't matter.
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AiYumega wrote:

I go on Youtube and stupidly read the comments



Give me just a minute here. Off topic, but I saw this and the comedic part of my mind took it as reading comments with slurs and hiccups. Maybe, the comments were stupid instead?



TL;DR Anime fans are split, why is that and what can be done to change it



I think it is safe to say that as long as you view enjoying something as strictly only the way you view it, as correct. Then, you will see splits in any fandom.

I like to think of fandom's as stairs, and by that I mean I thought of them as stairs just now. Every group in a fandom has a stair to themselves and the rest that enjoy something to that same degree. Would I say, if I was to place myself on a higher stair, that the lower stairs are less of a fan than myself? Not really. They may not know page 35 by memory, or remember when that one girl stole from that other girl, but they are none the less a fan in my book.

I feel like, as a fandom of anything, that if we keep splitting hairs there won't be anyone left to talk to about things we enjoy.

As for why is a fandom split? Dubs and Subs? Some people like to use their ears to understand, some like to use their eyes to understand. No biggy. We have five senses for a reason, pick your favorite one to use!
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It is not proper to call yourself an "anime fan" as that implies that you are a fan of all anime that has ever existed. Because anime covers such a broad scope of genres, saying "I am a fan of anime" is as ridiculous as saying "I am a live action fan." There is simply too much content in both types for any one person to even attempt to like.

Because of this, the idea that the anime fandom is split is nonsense because the anime fandom does not exist. There are fans of AoT, SAO, and specific genres of anime even, but not of anime as a whole
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Ill watch Anime Dubbed or Subbed, to me it doesn't matter as long as the translation is Correct.

Anyways if you haven't Seen Golden Boy Dub, then you are missing out. Gotta be one of the best, most hilarious dub out there. hahahaha =]

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i dont see a problem with fans being split. anything that gets anime out to the populace is a good thing. ive been around anime since ghost in the shell was brand new. my cousin was hard core into it back in the days of VHS and 'japanimation' him renting gunsmith cats for me was great.

still gotta watch dragonball Z.
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Atheyon wrote:

It is not proper to call yourself an "anime fan" as that implies that you are a fan of all anime that has ever existed. Because anime covers such a broad scope of genres, saying "I am a fan of anime" is as ridiculous as saying "I am a live action fan." There is simply too much content in both types for any one person to even attempt to like.

Because of this, the idea that the anime fandom is split is nonsense because the anime fandom does not exist. There are fans of AoT, SAO, and specific genres of anime even, but not of anime as a whole


I've heard people self-identify as movie fans. You can be a fan of a medium without loving everything of that medium.

I am a fan of cartoons in general as a medium, but I do not love all cartoons. For instance: I will go out of my way to watch The Amazing World of Gumball and Gravity Falls, but don't care for Uncle Grandpa. I still consider myself a fan of cartoons because I enjoy the medium itself. Even if I don't like all the content.

Looping back to sub vs. dub and such, one of the things I really like about dubs is that they allow me to share things with family that cannot yet read well. I've gotten Lily and Ashley** (4 and 7) into anime to some degree. Lily's favorite anime series so far as I can tell is actually 'Ghost Hunt,' which surprises me a little. The more surprising thing is that she introduced me to it.

If we define the "anime fandom" as people who enjoy anime: it is too fragmented for anyone to declare that a definitive "split" exists. There's a lot of disagreement about a lot of things. A lot of different camps. That is a good thing for the most part. If everyone's opinions aligned it would be a pretty stagnate group. (Or in other words, really boring.)

** Names changed to protect the devious.
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Anime! Your fan-base is split! Tidy yourself up for the love of god! People are watching! ... Also, that girl across the street is way kawaier than you!
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I don't think anime fans are "split", at least not in a bad way (like taking sides in some sort of conflict). Anime is an entertainment medium, it's entirely subjective and the main goal is to find what you like. There's no "right" or "wrong" way to enjoy anime, just personal preference. The best fans are those who are aware of that fact since they can discuss anime without trying to defend their opinion as "right" or denounce others as "wrong".

To be fair, humans do tend towards "Tribalism" but it's an instinct we can overcome and it's usually better for everyone when we do resist it. The people who don't like the things you like aren't your "enemy", they're just people with different views. Maybe you even have the same views on some things but if you're constantly attacking them it's going to be harder to find out (also, don't be surprised if they dislike you for it).

It's funny (and/or sad), tolerance and being accepting of the differences in people are almost universally promoted as good things and yet intolerance and an unwillingness to accept others are probably the biggest causes of conflict everywhere.
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I enjoy both subs and dubs - depends on the series.

For some, I prefer the sub because the voices are preferable to my ears.

For some, I prefer the dub because the voices are preferable to my ears.

I like many subs over dubs. I like many dubs over subs. End of story.

On the other hand, I cannot stand weebos, or people who hate on a dub just because it isn't Japanese and therefore cannot possibly be better. Grow the fuck up.

Anyway...Every fandom is split. Why? Because people are individuals, and have individual feelings about things. There is nothing wrong with that; when handled well, it creates a welcoming fandom of diversity and understanding where everyone can feel they belong somewhere.

The key word here is tolerance. Don't like something? You can state your opinion while not bashing others. Incapable of doing that? Then you need to grow the fuck up.


That was absolutely perfect and I agree with everything.

Bravo!
Posted 9/11/14

Zatheko wrote:

That was absolutely perfect and I agree with everything.

Bravo!


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