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Anime Fandom In Changing Times
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Posted 9/11/14 , edited 9/11/14
This conversation again...

I've said it many times and I'll say it again. I will appreciate subs and good dubs. There's bad VA's and subpar performances on both sides of the aisle. Most of the reasons people say dubs are bad mainly involve the choices of words the translators used (which are essentially the same in the Japanese context, a lot of people that complain about that swear by fansubs) and the fact that some of the emotion in the performance has to be changed due to sentence structure differences between Japanese and English, lost in translation, if you will.

If you like either, I will give you a thumbs up, but the people that try to ostracize someone else for their preference are the types of people I can't stand in the anime community.
Posted 9/11/14
Dubs are ridiculous sometimes, it just sounds retarded.

Other times they're brilliant like dragonball z or Rurouni Kenshin.

All in all, I like original, take RWBY for example, I want to see it in original English, not Japanese.
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Posted 9/11/14 , edited 9/11/14

Zatheko wrote:


SoldierSangria wrote:

I enjoy both subs and dubs - depends on the series.

For some, I prefer the sub because the voices are preferable to my ears.

For some, I prefer the dub because the voices are preferable to my ears.

I like many subs over dubs. I like many dubs over subs. End of story.

On the other hand, I cannot stand weebos, or people who hate on a dub just because it isn't Japanese and therefore cannot possibly be better. Grow the fuck up.

Anyway...Every fandom is split. Why? Because people are individuals, and have individual feelings about things. There is nothing wrong with that; when handled well, it creates a welcoming fandom of diversity and understanding where everyone can feel they belong somewhere.

The key word here is tolerance. Don't like something? You can state your opinion while not bashing others. Incapable of doing that? Then you need to grow the fuck up.


That was absolutely perfect and I agree with everything.

Bravo!


Ditto, although weebaoos or however you spell it, don't bother me.
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Posted 9/11/14
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Posted 9/11/14 , edited 9/11/14
Right now I have no problem with the split in the anime fandom. Honestly I am somewhere in the middle. I normally watch shows subbed; however, there are times when I prefer to watch a show in English. People that I know all have differing opinions on this issue, yet they do not let it come between them, which is quite an important thing. Frankly, I even know one person who used to watch mainly dubbed shows and yet now cannot stand any language other than the original for it. In my opinion, I watch a dub because the voice actors really bring a good experience to the show or that I watched the show first in that form and believe that that version is the more enjoyable. In other words, if I watch something in English first, then I will probably prefer that version, unless there is a lot of high pitched voiced characters in a dub because for some reason these characters are usually TERRIBLE in English dubs.

More thought will be put into this, but due to my nature I may never post again. I can say that there are times where a dub adds to a show because of the actors being able to better showcase dialects and accents that come with characters from different parts of the world. I can also say that I usually prefer the language that the series was originally intended for.
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Religion: We have Catholics, Christians, Scientologists, Athiests, Satanists, etc.
Videogamers: We have PC Gamers, Nintendo fans, X-Box fans, PS Fans, etc.
Politics: Republicans, Democrats, Independants, etc.
Diet: Vegetarians, Carnivores, Omnivores, Vegans, etc.

Everyone has religious beliefs of some sort even if those beliefs are to choose not to believe. Every videogamer despite preference enjoys playing thier favorite videogames. Everyone has some political affiliation of some sort even if it's to only themselves in thier best interest. Most importantly, everyone eats some sort of food, if they didn't they'd die.

It's no different with anime. I hate most anime dubs. Do I consider myself an elite anime fan? Do I look down on those who prefer them? No and no. It's our love of the industry that keeps us getting more and more anime produced each year. We may differ in opinions with fellow fans on the best way to watch and enjoy anime but honestly we differ as a society on pretty much everything else.

You asked how can we change it? We can't and honestly we don't have a right to. To each, his own; live and let live.

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Posted 9/11/14 , edited 9/11/14
Some people just want to act like they are an expert. Trying to point out all the problems with attack on titan even though it's a great show. Not my favorite show but I can't deny it's good. People just want to be hipster and say they like these obscure ones and all mainstream anime is crap. In terms of dubbed i prefer to listen in dubbed unless it's really bad because it saves so much time as you can multi task when watching in dubbed. But some dubs I prefer to the subbed usually depending on which I listened to first. (Gurren Lagann)
Posted 9/11/14
It's a subculture outside of Japan. I wouldn't call any of it mainstream unless it is that well known in Japan.
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Posted 9/11/14
Well im sure there are more people then we think but im sure some people will not admit it.
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It may be irony to use lyrics from a jingoistic song when discussing a foreign influenced subculture but in the words of Charlie Daniels....

"we may have done a little bit of fighting amongst ourselves, but you outside people best leave us alone. 'Cause we'll all stick together and you can take that to the bank "
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Posted 9/11/14
Let`s face it
Dubs introduce newcomers to Anime world. it just a example for them how big the anime world could be and if they like it or not enough to go to Subs.
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Posted 9/20/14

InvisibleFriend wrote:


CherryDynamite8 wrote:


I myself am regularly annoyed by an acquaintance of mine who is a fellow anime fan and likes to abuse the Japanese language in everyday conversation. He likes to call our friends by "-kun", -"chan", "-senpai", etc. while adding in "Kawaii" and other obvious/overly used Japanese words. XD Maybe he's relatively newer and more enthusiastic about the fandom, but he's a 20 year old college student and to me it sounds just a bit ridiculous.
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I'd like to believe everyone goes through that phase so that guy should be given a break... or at least I did But I'd be able to be forgiven easier because I was only 12 haha.

And with the whole dub vs sub thing, I'm ok with people having preferences as long as they have understandable reasons for liking either. Making huge generalizations like saying "All English dubs suck" gets on my nerves. People who say "Ew Japanese, why do you watch it in that weird language?" also annoy the hell out of me. All that matters is that you're intelligent about voicing the reason why you like certain things.

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AiYumega wrote:


Kavalion wrote:

I know what you mean. It grinds my gears when people say they don't take the stairs because they can't walk or it's too many floors. I hate elevators.


I do hate elevators. Got stuck in them all the time. Had to rip the door open once.


escalators are a lot more fun tbh
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Posted 6/18/15
Nothing can be done to change it but the more practical fan's voice is starting to overtake the fanatics.
Posted 6/18/15
Meh, I say don't bother trying to change it.

It's really not worth it - people will like what they like and dislike what they dislike. Even the more "dedicated" fandom splits as you go further in. There you jsut get different people arguing over which shows are good and which are "ruining anime".

Still, for the life of me, I cannot understand the dub hatred. Nor can I understand why these conversations always devolve into the never-ending dub debate.

I swear, people will find anything to divide themselves over. I guess because competition is fun? That's the only conclusion I can draw at this point.
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