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your Favorite Fetish manga is?
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I like the forbidden love category that has fantasy-like themes.. like.. DemonxHuman, God/GoddessxHuman, etc.
I also have this strange love for reading manga with possessive male lovers, even though I would hate that for myself. Lol.
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It's called Acute, but there's only 2 chapters translated so far and the MAL page is just a placeholder. Looks promising though.


I would be curious to read more, but apparently it's just some kind of Vocaloid doujin based on the song Acute.
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Gender bender.
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I know the difference between fantasy and reality and I'm not apologetic for this. I hate seeing people getting raped and I think it's wrong for prepubescent girls, and boys for that matter, to be turned into sexual objects. I believe that it is wrong whether it is in fantasy or reality.

Do I necessarily think that he's a rapist just for reading it or he will turn into one? No, I don't.

Was "Please stop and get help" dramatic? A little

Can rape or child abuse be used as an element in a story or back story? Yes it can.

The reason why I don't separate rape (for fetishes) and lolicon / Shotacon that is in an anime or manga is because of this. What if someone walked up to you and said, "I would like to use your 9 year old daughters likeness in my next work and show her having sex or flirting with a 30 year old," or "your wife is really attractive and I'd like to draw her in several rape scene for my next fetish manga."

It's all well and fine until it's a character that resembles someone you know.

How about not just in manga. Would you allow an artist to make a nude and sexual themed painting of your 5 year old daughter? I mean, all he did was turn it into art which many so adamantly argue that since manga is art, that rape and lolicon is okay because it is just the artist exercising his artistic freedom. As long as it's art he's free to draw your grandmother sexually abusing your daughter, but it's okay as long as it's art.



Except that loli, rape and every other fetish depicted in fiction is just that, depicted in fiction. It's not only unnecessary to use an actual person as a model, but it would be illegal in the case of underage children in the first place.
That argument is nothing but an appeal to emotion, it's not a logical or rational argument. You can just as well use that argument to claim that all literature that have mentioned or depicted what would be a crime, should be banned or otherwise criminalized, but it just so happens you draw your particular line in the sand on this topic.
Second, coincidental resemblances usually are just that, coincidence. It's almost inevitable that someone, somewhere in the world, will bear some resemblance to a fictional character either physically, or in personality. The disclaimers to that effect aren't just for show, they carry weight. Proving that something doesn't exist is basically impossible after all, so the benefit of the doubt is a given, just as people are innocent until proven guilty in any just legal system.





Unfortunately you can't determine age in this industry. You can look twelve or thirteen and be thirty or forty.


That's an excuse, not a true reason. There's a reason it's called lolicon as it refers to a loli who in definition is an adolescent. While this covers anyone under age, it more specifically defines prepubescent children which represents a certain age range. It doesn't have to spell out the actual age of the character in numbers. Yes you can determine age in the industry whether through a tag or is is implied and many characters are given birth dates by their creators.

Those characters who look, 14, 13, or younger but are actually adults usually have that fact defined. They are not left ageless, the age may not be explicitly stated, but the character is clarified as an adult. A small adult isn't a loli, they are just a small adult.

You can also use the story and how the characters are treated to get an understanding of how old he or she is. By choosing to overlook these clues and stated facts, and say "you can't determine age in this industry," is really just a defense using ignorance.


Loli is not by definition an adolescent though, loli is defined by appearance alone, child and loli are not equivalent terms. If that were not the case then there would never be a loli character who is not explicitly underage or at minimum of unidentified age, the existence of the 1,000 year old loli trope alone shows loli characters who are not adolescent, or children exists.


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kardonius wrote:
[Except that loli, rape and every other fetish depicted in fiction is just that, depicted in fiction. It's not only unnecessary to use an actual person as a model, but it would be illegal in the case of underage children in the first place.
That argument is nothing but an appeal to emotion, it's not a logical or rational argument. You can just as well use that argument to claim that all literature that have mentioned or depicted what would be a crime, should be banned or otherwise criminalized, but it just so happens you draw your particular line in the sand on this topic...



kardonius wrote
Loli is not by definition an adolescent though, loli is defined by appearance alone, child and loli are not equivalent terms. If that were not the case then there would never be a loli character who is not explicitly underage or at minimum of unidentified age, the existence of the 1,000 year old loli trope alone shows loli characters who are not adolescent, or children exists...




Thread OP - I apologize for digressing so much in this thread and I will no longer continue this argument.
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nozoki ana
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nana to kaoru, I like the SM stuff
Unbalance x Unbalance, I love the forbidden romance between an older woman and younger man who happen to be teacher and student.
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Supernatural, and cooperating arch-nemesis romance. Superior would be an example of both .
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