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Bekki from No-Rin. A good kind of broken.
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Gafennec wrote:

I am very, very sorry for not using spoilers. I thought these shows were so well known they wouldn't be needed. I apologize sincerely.

That's okay, it's not like there are solid rules for spoilers. I personally try to err on the side of caution but different people have different expectations. I also try to be forgiving of any spoilers I accidentally read though, since I can't expect everyone to be as over-cautious as I am.


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Sorry not everything revolves around sex.

Blatant lies.


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Yoko Nakajima from 12 Kingdoms.

I guess I need to move 12 Kingdoms up my list of things to watch judging by the comments here.

Another suggestion: Only Yesterday. I'm not sure any of the characters count as "broken" exactly, it's about a woman reflecting on her childhood and trying to decide on her future. It's quite slow paced and arguably not much happens so it's not for everyone but I think it's underrated (or at least under watched). I'd say it qualifies as "uplifting of the spirit" at least.
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Posted 9/15/14

Smeelia wrote:

I guess I need to move 12 Kingdoms up my list of things to watch judging by the comments here.

Another suggestion: Only Yesterday. I'm not sure any of the characters count as "broken" exactly, it's about a woman reflecting on her childhood and trying to decide on her future. It's quite slow paced and arguably not much happens so it's not for everyone but I think it's underrated (or at least under watched). I'd say it qualifies as "uplifting of the spirit" at least.


Yup. 12 Kingdoms is an incredible series, possibly the best fantasy series in any anime I've seen. And the light novels are even better. Fantastic characters, world building, politics, adventure, characterization and all that jazz. Absolutely worth a watch.

And yes, I've seen Only Yesterday. I don't think it fits in the "broken" category, but it definitely goes into the sentimental category. One of my personal favorite anime movies. Have you seen Millennium Actress? Another excellent film that shares similarities with Only Yesterday in terms of memory and sentiment.

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maxgale wrote:

For a moment, I thought this was going to be a topic about posting lewd fanart about broken anime chars, but then it wasn't.


Sorry not everything revolves around sex.



Bro do you even anime?!
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Everyone in Neon Genesis Evangelion , Mirai Nikki, and Deadman Wonderland.
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maxgale wrote:


Gafennec wrote:


maxgale wrote:

For a moment, I thought this was going to be a topic about posting lewd fanart about broken anime chars, but then it wasn't.


Sorry not everything revolves around sex.



Bro do you even anime?!


No I am not animated or a number. I am a real person.
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SoldierSangria wrote:

And yes, I've seen Only Yesterday. I don't think it fits in the "broken" category, but it definitely goes into the sentimental category. One of my personal favorite anime movies. Have you seen Millennium Actress? Another excellent film that shares similarities with Only Yesterday in terms of memory and sentiment.

I haven't seen Millennium Actress, I think I keep getting it mixed up with another film so I've probably missed opportunities. I'll have to give it a go the next time I have a chance.
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A character must have flaws too be human.
It's one reason unlike others I do like Shinji from NGE because how human he is.

Flaws usually make them tragic because these flaws are highlighted and people usually gravitate towards tragic characters more than others as a sense of familiarty or sorrow.

Every character in RahXephon is tragic and everyone has tragedy in Gantz making them all relatable or likeable except for fucking Reiko (fuck her)
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Pretty much every character period has something or another wrong with them. Having issues or problems doesn't make a character -- or a person in real life for that matter -- broken. But when overused, it really can make a character hard to sympathise with or care about. It's an easy and cheap writing tactic to heap on character flaws in an attempt to be 'realistic', but in all honesty all that tends to do is alienate characters and audience. A careful balance needs to be achieved, and it can't tip too far one way or another.

Characters usually have to have things to work through, even if they never fully resolve their issues.

Personally it's a large problem I had with the original Evangelion series and a number of others, because they initially introduced characters who had certain flaws they were working through...which by the end was difficult, if not impossible, to sympathise with since they heaped flaws on some characters and repeatedly had the main characters fail to do anything even remotely resolute. A lesson to be learned, perhaps. That and 'don't waste the budget on jiggle and try to pretend you're being artsy when you just have no money left'.
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Everyone has problems, some are just better at hiding them than others.

Broken Characters....


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In truth I wouldn't say that any character is actually broken. I think they are just misunderstood.
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Characters can be broken just like people can be, in the sense that they need to go on a personal journey in order to heal. Which is why Rape As Backstory is such a prevalent (if often lazily implemented) trope, and we have stories like Mardock Scramble which are all about characters fighting against their own inner demons made manifest.

Also Elfen Lied, and a super long list besides.

Characters can also be broken or "rebroken" in a sense by the story when they either experienced a trauma in the past or simply grew up in a warped or oppressive environment that caused parts of their personally to grow up "crooked". In which case a story can "rebreak" them like rebreaking a poorly mended bone fracture in order for it to heal again cleanly.

Which is more along the lines of where I think Youko Nakajima from The Twelve Kingdoms fits in:

The story "broke" her in a sense so that even older injuries and insecurities could be healed in the resolution.
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Seta Soujiro (Rurouni Kenshin)


Nobody, not even Kenshin at his lowest is as broken as Soujiro. His back story is one of the most depressing things in the entire series.
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Homura from Madoka



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Insomnist wrote:

Characters can be broken just like people can be, in the sense that they need time or intervention in order to heal. Which is why Rape As Backstory is such a prevalent (if often lazily implemented) trope, and we have stories like Mardock Scramble which are all about characters fighting their way clear of of their own manifested emotional hells.

Also Elfen Lied, and a super long list besides.

Characters can also be broken or "rebroken" in a sense by the story when they either experienced a trauma in the past or simply grew up in a warped or oppressive environment that caused parts of their personally to grow up "crooked". In which case a story can "rebreak" them like rebreaking a poorly mended bone fracture in order for it to heal again cleanly.

Which is more along the lines of where I think Youko Nakajima from The Twelve Kingdoms fits in.

The story "broke" her in a sense so that even older injuries and insecurities could be healed in the resolution.


Was this for me?

I think I just have an issue with the term broken, it makes it sound like there is something wrong with the person. In the case of rape as a back story, which two of my favorite shows Kara no Kyokai (Explicit Rape) and Denpa teki na Kanojo (Explicit Rape) come to mind right away, I think is kind of wrong to say that the rape victims are broken. I think it dehumanizes them a bit as a car breaks down or glass can be broken. I guess it comes down to context. The girl has been victimized, assaulted, and raped but I wouldn't call her broken.

It's like in group therapy for mental illness where people are encouraged not to say "I am Bipolar," but are encouraged to say "I have bipolar." You're not identifying the person by what they have, you're looking at the person first and then identifying the problem, the person isn't the problem. There isn't anything "broken" about the person who has had been raped, traumatized, or suffered a mental break from reality, I dunno if this is making sense or not.

Broken just comes off a crass when defining what has happened to a person and not really appropriate. You don't truly define someone by what they have and what's happened to them, those are just facts that have influenced them. You truly define them by who they are at their core, their innate traits. Those are never broken, but things can cover them up or corrupt them and when you think you've "fixed" someone who has been "broken," you're just returning them to their natural setting or an improvement on that natural setting.

As for true antagonists or villains, they are not broken either, it's just that their natural settings have more "evil" than good. Anti-Hero's have a equal level of both good and bad, and hero's are mostly "good." This is a very generalized and vague statement, it's just to make a point.

As for someone like Homura from Madoka, she's been corrupted by continuous tragedy and pain and lost her way in that corruption, but I wouldn't consider her broken.

The only time that I would comfortably use the term broken is if someone has become so damaged, so corrupted, and so lost from their natural state that there is no hope in saving or helping them.
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