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Does education matter even anymore?
Posted 9/15/14 , edited 9/17/14
As a language/education major, I have to seriously question what type of teacher I want to be. I've had almost entirely bad teachers. My grammar school teachers were drunks and priests who were untrained in teaching. High school was just terrible all around, but the only glimmer is college, where I've had some really, really great professors.

In my experience, the majors I see the most of now, as a second year, are...

1. Pharmacy Majors (which is a longer program and much harder)

2. Business Management

3. Pre-Med

4. Speech Therapy

5. Actuarial Science


We go to college to gain education to get a job.I plan on going forward, and getting my masters degree in education, possibly doctorate but God only knows if I'll have any money left at that point.

But we don't go to grammar and high school for it...

My point is this. There's an old thread about is going to college for a job worth it. The field I've chosen, the answer is an absolute yes. But what I'm asking is education as a whole, the school system from nursery to the end, or even homeschooling, is it worth it? Are we being taught right, are we being taught at all, or we not teaching anything?

My answer is 90% of the time, I learn most outside of school. But I feel we still need it. The US has a 99% literacy percentage, meaning 99% of the American population can read and write, just how much is the question. We're not dumb, but we're not smart and as the maelstrom of technology becoming is more intelligent, people are etting lazier, and life getting more expensive...

Is education really worth it anymore?

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My understanding of what Engineering College was trying to teach was the ability to learn on my own. That and basic engineering principles. Plus it helps if your goal is like that in "Stein's Gate". That being 'I am mad scientist". Since what I wanted to be when I grew up was an inventor or things to improve, protect, and save humanity. So a good mad scientist.

So yes education is worth it if it helps your goals. Then again getting a degree when the recession hit, I am working in a factory. I tell people I am a floor sweeper.
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Archmechanite wrote:

My understanding of what Engineering College was trying to teach was the ability to learn on my own. That and basic engineering principles. Plus it helps if your goal is like that in "Stein's Gate". That being 'I am mad scientist". Since what I wanted to be when I grew up was an inventor or things to improve, protect, and save humanity. So a good mad scientist.

So yes education is worth it if it helps your goals. Then again getting a degree when the recession hit, I am working in a factory. I tell people I am a floor sweeper.


I'd be a floor sweeper but the minimum wage it too damn high.
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Posted 9/15/14
i really cant see spending 4 year of my life in school, for a chance at a job.
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Posted 9/15/14 , edited 9/15/14
I don't know if this addresses your point or not. One thing I wish high school would have done was teach us more about adult life and being independent. They spent so much time teaching me math that I will never use unless I go into certain very specific jobs. I feel like that time could have been used more efficiently.

Not that I had trouble adjusting to a more independent adult life, but it would have been nice to learn how to write a resume before I actually had to do it. If not that then they could have at least spent more time teaching me math that will actually be useful in real life situations.
Posted 9/15/14

Sir_jamesalot wrote:


Archmechanite wrote:

My understanding of what Engineering College was trying to teach was the ability to learn on my own. That and basic engineering principles. Plus it helps if your goal is like that in "Stein's Gate". That being 'I am mad scientist". Since what I wanted to be when I grew up was an inventor or things to improve, protect, and save humanity. So a good mad scientist.

So yes education is worth it if it helps your goals. Then again getting a degree when the recession hit, I am working in a factory. I tell people I am a floor sweeper.


I'd be a floor sweeper but the minimum wage it too damn high.


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Posted 9/15/14
People go to school because most jobs require a degree.
Since some need a degree to get a job, then yes, I believe education is worth it.

Now if you're talking about the lack of proper education by means of "bad" teachers and how that would cause education to matter less, than I would also have to agree with that as well (somewhat); however, most of the learning a student achieves is and/or should be outside of the classroom. Whether it be bookwork or actual hands-on experience with regard to their respective discipline.

But hey what do I know--I'm just a student.
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Right now the high school system doesn't teach practical skills for outside of school beyond not having the reading level of a kindergartener in the US. When I went to HS they didn't really teach us how to learn things on our own like they did when I went to college. The problem is right now that they're treating high school as part of some development of sorts when that phase has already passed in elementary/junior high. There's also the fact we're way behind on teaching our students the sciences and math, because that stuff is basically what makes doctors, brilliant scientists and all the other elements of a technologically advanced country.

It WILL be worth it if we revise our school system, but that isn't happening soon with the way things are going.

Though that said I think there's also some flaws in the college system, but that's a topic for another day.
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I'm 15 and still in the Irish version of high school and I have my problems with it. I don't see myself using most of what I'm learning later on in life and that irritates me. I wish they taught more about becoming an independent adult but I don't see that happening. I want to be a writer when I finish my education so I don't know if I'll go on to third level education.

Education matters to everybody, everyone should have a basic grasp of everything covered in primary school (elementary school and beginning of middle school in America) but after that I'm not sure. I, personally, don't thing what I'm being taught matters but that's just me. I'm sure a lot of people benefit from it but I'm sure an equal amount don't.
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Six
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which is ironic because I actually like school. Although there are some aspects they lack to teach us about "real Life"
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yes
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Posted 9/15/14 , edited 9/15/14
Honestly, even with school a lot of people are idiots. Without it we'd probably see those people reduced to splashing around in their own saliva, giggling uncontrollably... at age 40.
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I went back to school and completed a BFA just because I wanted to go to grad school for a certain degree and career. Unlike other people I had awesome fun while in school and never regretted a moment(or the cost, which was high) because I knew this was not the end of my journey. The last career (high end retail sales) didn't require me to have any college degree. At the time I had a 2-year degree in something completely unrelated to what I was working in. I got the job because I had more ambition than just graduating high school.

You can't learn everything you need to know about the world in 4 years of high school. You don't need to go to a 4 year college for most jobs, but some employers won't even look at your resume unless you graduated from one.

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Posted 9/15/14

Zeboim wrote:

Yes, it matters. Knowledge is power, and a degree opens many doors for employment opportunities. Even if you don't use what you've learned, it never could be a bad thing to say you tried this and I'm sure this or that wasn't for me.


Also I agreed, most public High Schools still employ the track system. Those the system thinks are destined for greatness (rich) are often placed in college preparatory tracks while assumed ne'er'do'ell's (the poor, those in foster care, have behavioral issues, etc) are placed in food service and simple basic grammar and arithmetic, use different books in mainstream classes, etc, if not simply as a means of disposing of them in a category or 'box. ' The effect is that when they go to college, they are unprepared for it, and they end up working a factory job or fast food. There are many critics of this, not just lil ol' me, and I wont go further into it but I'll provide a link"

news.stanford.edu/pr/94/940302Arc4396.html


Uh, I think you've spent too much time at college. You're starting to sound like a damn communist. You can succeed in school regardless of how much money you have. Being poor alone doesn't prevent you from doing well in school. When I was in high school, my family had almost nothing, but I still made straight A's and got half my college tuition paid for by the state. Of course being poor usually comes with other complications which could explain poor performance in school, but just being poor isn't a death sentence. There is no big conspiracy against poor children to keep them in their place, even though that's often what it seems the rich want nowadays.
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Posted 9/15/14
Yes. Any form of education is worth it. But what do I know, I'm just a physician.

Stay in school kids, go to college but don't major in stupid things like art history or music. Go into one of the STEM fields and you'll be fine in the long run.
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