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Posted 9/25/14 , edited 9/27/14

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Taitou85 wrote:

Can anyone here kindly explain the difference between otaku and an anime fan? I always thought both words have the same meaning, no?

Many thanks for taking time to educate me!


Hey Taitou =^^=

Basically otaku has two meanings but it depends on which side of the ocean you are on. In the west, otaku simply means an anime fan and can vary in degrees of intensity. Some of us are fanatics heh =^~=

In Japan the term doesn't necessarily apply to anime and manga like it does here. An otaku is someone who is obsessed by a particular hobby. Unfortunately the term isn't looked at with great appeal by Japanese culture as a whole, because of a several murders, kidnappings, and rapes that have happened in the past which were committed by otaku. Now those horrific crimes do not apply to the community as a whole. The criminals who committed those crimes were messed up in the head to begin with. The reason Japanese culture would relate them to the entire community is that Japanese culture revolves around the group and what one person does reflects greatly on the group. Quite different from the United States or west but similar in many ways too.
Most otaku in Japan are basically like otaku here in the west, they have a great passion for their hobby. Japanese society has started to accept otaku for what they are but most still view them as strange or socially awkward (OUR KIND OF PEOPLE!). The attitudes toward otaku in Japan would be like the pre nerd and geek awesomeness era that we live in now in the states =^^=


So basically:

America
Otaku = anime/manga fan (puffs out chest, fist bump, silly dance!). Pretty well accepted in society.

Japan
Otaku = fanatical fan of a hobby, not necessarily anime or manga. Majority of society view's them as "interesting". Culture is slowly changing. Not really accepted like here in the US.

Hope that helps. If you have any questions please ask away =^^=


Thank you, FeralLion, for enlightening me on the differences between the word used in Japan and in the West. Always learn something new everyday!!

Appreciate your taking time to explain to me.

Cheers,

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I'm not an otaku
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afletcher770 wrote:

are there many people on here 35 years and up? or am i the only cool old person? hahaha


You clearly misinterpreted "otaku". Doesn't take much to be called a no-lifer or nerd in the west. Imagine what it takes to be called that here in Japan...
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I will be 36 in a couple months, I have enjoyed anime for many.... years. I really enjoy the culture and media of Japan, I am not a collector of any particular goods. I never tried to define myself other then a fan of anime and the culture, if someone asked me if I was an otaku i'm not certain my reply would be yes, but more likely to explain that I enjoy watching anime, reading manga from time to time, and the culture in general.
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You're very welcome =^^=
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xdtoolman wrote:

I will be 36 in a couple months, I have enjoyed anime for many.... years. I really enjoy the culture and media of Japan, I am not a collector of any particular goods. I never tried to define myself other then a fan of anime and the culture, if someone asked me if I was an otaku i'm not certain my reply would be yes, but more likely to explain that I enjoy watching anime, reading manga from time to time, and the culture in general.


Thank goodness for a response like this. I'm young myself, but I've been watching anime for 10 years, among other things that people often associate with "shut-ins" such as gaming - nice SWTOR profile picture by the way - but although I dedicate a lot of my time to these interests, I'm not a shut-in by any means and have an education etc therefore I would never call myself an otaku. There are way too many times I've seen young teenagers who have just gotten into anime (normally through the big 3, or solely one or more of the big 3 titles) and claim they're an otaku as frequently as they possibly can, as though it's a badge of honour. They have a very skewed perspective on the meaning of otaku (among other Japanese words and labels), and clearly a very shallow understanding of the culture and so forth.

That said, I've known someone (mid 30s region, due to family connection - was dating a relative of mine) who acted as immature as some of these young teenagers in regards to their watching of anime. I understand there's not as many people from the older generation who are invested into anime as there are younger people but, my god, please maintain your dignity. With at least 30 years of life experience it's really embarrassing to see older people using "XD" among other phrases that I generally reserve to be only acceptable for 11 year olds going through their "I'm so randem!!!11! n kewl XDDD" phase.

So, PSA to older "otakus" - please, stop. You can still be an adult, hopefully with a decent measure of maturity, and have fun and enjoy your interests without indefinitely humiliating yourself.
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Im 25 years old :P
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I turn 25 soon.
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Posted 9/26/14 , edited 9/26/14

AzazelOfNexium wrote:

sadly im only 19 so i cant call myself old. But i guarantee, ill be an otaku/hardcore anime fan until i draw my last breath :3

Anime is a drop of color in my otherwise grey world.


WHY do you say "sadly im only 19" The only cool thing about being old is wisdom.

edit: I wonder if i'll be one of those old people that watch old shows. I'd be the 80 year old dude watching Naruto
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44. Involved with Southern California University clubs and Anime Expo. Sadly married a non fan (that didn't last too long...lol). Got to live in Akihabara for a few years. More of us around than you might think.
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early 40's here and yes still watching anime like i did when i was 8-9 years old
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Oldie here, but my 3d wife cosplays my waifu. She has a waifu too. That just about sums up our so called "Maturity level". You are as young as you act.

As far as the "Otaku = bad" conversation don't buy it.

Haruhiko Mikimoto and Shouji Kawamori called themselves "Otaku" in the late 70's when they were in school together in their Gundam anime club. Then they went on to become some of the most influential creators in anime.

The Japanese media later attempted to portray "Otaku" as bad due to a murder (the culprit wasn't even an anime fan) so the word got a bad name for awhile. Now it's not as frowned upon in Japan. In the US lately we have jerks on 4chan and tumblr giving Otaku a bad name.

Now the same is happening with "Gamer".

Don't buy it. Don't let them drive you away. Fight back and change fan culture for the better. You see somebody being terrible, hateful, or running new fans off: call em out on it.
And don't let outsiders "Other" you saying your hobby is bad. People are always going to hate somebody doing something different. This will pass.
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I'm 39 and I like what I like!

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I'm 40+ and agree with most here. You like what you like, don't think about it, just enjoy it (as long as it's legal and not going to get you arrested).
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riem2k wrote:

I am 35 and i have been watching anime since i was a toddler, the oldest show i remember watching was mazinger z. I am more a fan of Japanese culture, I don't consider my self an otaku but an anime fan .


since toddler age?

*imagines her class of 12 toddlers watching anime*

nope, can't see it that's pretty amazing for sure
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