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Order, Chaos, and the Way of the Universe
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I've got it! I know who Phersu is under the mask! Phersu is the Joker!

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I remember a good quote from the book "Science, Order and Creativity by David Bohm and F. David Peat. Something like; "Chaos is a pattern of infinite complexity."
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This is what I see in the wild everyday:

Also, my coin landed on its side rather than heads or tails a couple times before, lol.
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there's some chaos out there but have you seen op how the planets revolve along the sun with such precision? how the earth axis tilt perfectly for the day and night and seasons to happen in orderly fashion?? how the earth's gravity and weather's pattern are just right for life to exist and continue? how the planet is in the right place in correlation with the sun in order to harbor life because its not too far not too close to it???its mind boggling to believe that the universe and life came to be because it willed itself to be OR as they say by evolution????i believe in a creator OP

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there's some chaos out there but have you seen op how the planets revolve along the sun with such precision? how the earth axis tilt perfectly for the day and night and seasons to happen in orderly fashion?? how the earth's gravity and weather's pattern are just right for life to exist and continue? how the planet is in the right place in correlation with the sun in order to harbor life because its not too far not too close to it???its mind boggling to believe that the universe and life came to be because it willed itself to be OR as they say by evolution????i believe in a creator OP



I don't think the perfection of earth means order so much as finding order out of chaos. From a mathematical perspective i.e. Drake Equation, it's actually quite likely. It's analogous to sending trillions of robots to bet on a lottery and you automatically download your consciousness into whoever wins. Winning a lottery as one person is almost impossible, but when faced with trillions? You get the picture. The order is great but the chaos is vastly greater.

It points to how people deviate towards order like OP mentioned. People grew up with and are used to order and so they do not notice how much chaos is out there. It's like how most Americans don't know much about other cultures since they just hang around with their own and some people believe that other cultures have little to offer. I once read about this writing in rocky walls that was thought to be a language that no one could decipher. Turns out it was nature's accident.

I would be impressed if most life could survive in the magma core, the oceans, or in outer space. They don't however. Also, most of the universe is not complex, they're just... big. We can model how distant nebulas and star systems work but we can't do our own weather yet.

I'm not really arguing against the existence of a creator, just that there's a lot of chaos, creator or not. We have useless organs that do nothing but kill us if they rupture even.
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perrandy wrote:

there's some chaos out there but have you seen op how the planets revolve along the sun with such precision? how the earth axis tilt perfectly for the day and night and seasons to happen in orderly fashion?? how the earth's gravity and weather's pattern are just right for life to exist and continue? how the planet is in the right place in correlation with the sun in order to harbor life because its not too far not too close to it???its mind boggling to believe that the universe and life came to be because it willed itself to be OR as they say by evolution????i believe in a creator OP



I don't think the perfection of earth means order so much as finding order out of chaos. From a mathematical perspective i.e. Drake Equation, it's actually quite likely. It's analogous to sending trillions of robots to bet on a lottery and you automatically download your consciousness into whoever wins. Winning a lottery as one person is almost impossible, but when faced with trillions? You get the picture. The order is great but the chaos is vastly greater.

It points to how people deviate towards order like OP mentioned. People grew up with and are used to order and so they do not notice how much chaos is out there. It's like how most Americans don't know much about other cultures since they just hang around with their own and some people believe that other cultures have little to offer. I once read about this writing in rocky walls that was thought to be a language that no one could decipher. Turns out it was nature's accident.

I would be impressed if most life could survive in the magma core, the oceans, or in outer space. They don't however. Also, most of the universe is not complex, they're just... big. We can model how distant nebulas and star systems work but we can't do our own weather yet.

I'm not really arguing against the existence of a creator, just that there's a lot of chaos, creator or not. We have useless organs that do nothing but kill us if they rupture even.
interesting, that's the only thing that i can say right now.

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I think there is Order.

Gravity is Order and other forces.

Planets form nice sphere type shapes from the bits of pieces of whatever and high gravity. Billions of planets have been formed this way.

Either from the destruction of other planets or gravity. It is an on going cycle that will not end for a very very long time.

Gravity causes the rotation of our planets in line with the Sun. Letting us live and the Sun rotates with the Milky Way and the Milky Way rotates all with the flow of gravity really.

The atomic force is a constant and is orderly. It binds the atoms particles together and what not letting us be who and what we are. Letting the universe be what it is.

But back to planets. Circles, spheres and rings are like the cosmic order. Billions of planets are shaped like spheres (to my knowledge).
Some planets having strong rings around them. Billions of round stars.

All be dictated by the rulers of the universe like Gravity and all that.
Cycles are the way of the universe and cycles are orderly.

But if you want chaos there are black holes. And I am not talking about that one.
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