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It's one of those things that you'll never be able to stop. There have been many attempts from small minded people who don't get it in suits and ties to stamp it out but they only made it worse. The thing if people want stuff for free they will find a way to do it no matter what. No matter how many blocks you put in people find ways around them and there is too much profit to be made from loophole websites that can't be touched because all they do is link to streaming sites with illegal content while filling their website with advertising where companies profit from it too.

Since there will always exist the people who just don't want to pay for stuff the best approach for a forward thinking industry would be to make products you pay for better so you convince the people stuck in the middle to buy instead of download. The problem is the anime industry is still run by those small minded suit wearing folks who only see profit margins so they provide overly expensive products aimed at grinding as much profit as they can from a niche. Foreign markets are doing a little better but still struggle to provide interesting and enticing content in real releases to make them better than downloading. Sites like CR also help with the demand for faster releases since with streaming you can release as the show is being broadcast in Japan. Physical releases still need work although that side is caught up more in ridiculous licensing issues that hold things up.

In all no matter what a percentage of people since internet has become so fast and downloading and streaming in HD so easy feel that just because they can then they should. No matter what you do you won't change the mind of these people. Having a conversation with them about it is a continuous roundabout where they justify what they do with flimsy logic and have an answer for everything so not worth even trying.
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Posted 9/28/14 , edited 9/29/14
This might sound weird but I think that piracy has done a lot to promote anime (and manga for that matter) in countries outside of Japan. Many people have said it and it's true, that in the past it was almost impossible to find anime in western countries. Without all the illegal streaming sites, I don't think that would have changed. Companies don't really import foreign forms of media in bulk, generally speaking. The illegal sites, however, made it clear just how popular anime was outside of Japan. But since pirate sites have now basically become an institution in and of themselves it'll take a while to take them apart. And truthfully, I don't think we're at that point anyway. There is a vast library of anime that is still not available legally and won't be for some time and I'd rather be able to watch it than not.
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Posted 9/28/14

Vatta wrote:

It's impossible to get rid of, there are too many illegal sites and if one got taken down another would take its place.


Seems like a LOT of people inducing you have misunderstood the thread...

That depends on how they handle the take down. It's impossible to find a illegal streaming app that hosts Hollywood content in app stores like Google Play, Apple App Store and Windows store... Why? Becuase they have employees that take down those apps. Where as the anime industry just allows these apps to co-exist whit the legit apps.

I'm well aware of that it's impossible to take down streaming sites... But the point of this thread was that anime companies doesn't take apps seriously since they could easily take these apps offline.
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Posted 9/28/14
Illegal streaming sites is one of the reasons why anime is still relevant.
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Posted 9/28/14 , edited 9/28/14
You can't stop piracy but you can increase distribution options. Allow content on multiple services rather than making service exclusive deals and make your content easier to legally reach for consumers.

People aren't going to jump through hoops to get access to content and most of them are unwilling to pay for multiple services with the majority of the content overlapping between them. People will get what they want, whether they go through the avenues you prefer is up to how available you make it.

(and by removing such apps you just move that traffic around to other sources)
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Posted 9/28/14
Well, I directed a user to what I thought was a legal site, but it turned out to be an illegal one. I guess I was stupid since I never went there for NEW anime, but only saw much older anime that I thought it was legal. Never been so embarassed/ashamed lately.
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Posted 9/28/14
The main thing I see as being needed to fix the issue of illegal sites is access, especially access to good quality uncensored content. Personally I don't have a problem at all with paying for access to content as long as the price is reasonable. Finding that kind of access is difficult sometimes though considering the broad range of content, and the license fees that go with acquiring it.

My preference with 98% of it would be online rather than filling shelved with dvds since I typically don't watch most shows more than once. Therefore having legal sites like Crunchyroll available are good, and they give you an option of paying directly with membership or indirectly via commercials.

I probably have been on sites that were questionable while searching for a particular title, but the ones that seem shady I tend to avoid because there is a higher chance of malicious software. Frankly I would prefer to avoid those whenever possible, but it's just so difficult to find some things in a pure format.
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Posted 9/28/14 , edited 9/29/14

Dodebebop wrote:

I believe that they let the piracy spread too much and people sort have the idea that anime is free now. So the people doing it illegally don't even know what they are doing...


That's basically what has happened, when I was younger that's what I thought...but then I got a brain and realized I was hurting an industry, an industry that isn't even centered in my country, so I felt pretty bad after that.
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Posted 9/28/14
Maybe they need to make a decent site where you can watch anime legally
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Posted 9/28/14 , edited 9/28/14
Cracking down on illegally distributed anime won't change a thing. When anime can't actually be watched outside of Japan for a lot of people until it's released on dvd months, or even years after it's first broadcast, they have no option but to watch it illegally, or get it imported at great expense (and learn Japanese). Legal sites like CR & Funimation aren't exactly going to instantly solve this, since there are still a lot of anime not being picked up by them, and they can't always get full international licenses for their shows. The best things to do are to improve international distribution, and just encourage people to visit the legal sites.

It's also good to note that the sorts of people who refuse to pay for legal copies of anime (and other media) would generally be more inclined to just not watch anime than buy legal if illegal sites weren't a thing. Also removing access to illegal sites would get rid of a fair portion of the 'try before you buy' market. There are anime which I watched illegally when I was younger and later bought copies of, which I wouldn't have bought if my only options were 'Pay for this up front' or 'don't watch it'.
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Posted 9/28/14
Convince Russia and China to stop, I'd like to see that!
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Posted 9/28/14 , edited 9/28/14

Dodebebop wrote:

I believe that they let the piracy spread too much and people sort have the idea that anime is free now. So the people doing it illegally don't even know what they are doing...


You make it sound like they're doing something unforgivable.

Do people who give their money to the anime industry understand what they're supporting? There is no such thing in this world as an innocent, corrupted capitalist umbrella industry. such as anime.










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Posted 9/28/14
While it's a great thing that legit streaming sites now exist,(at least in the US). If it weren't for fan subs I doubt that anime would have made such an impact out side of Japan without them. I believe that when CR started up it made use of some fan sub content.
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33 / M / outer wall, level...
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Posted 9/28/14
to be honeest, i hate censorship with a passion. so guess where i get my uncensored anime? im an adult, damn it. dont feed me censored crap espically if i paided for it.
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That's why crunchyroll exists. Free and legal anime.
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