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Bri0518 wrote:

This might sound weird but I think that piracy has done a lot to promote anime (and manga for that matter) in countries outside of Japan. Many people have said it and it's true, that in the past it was almost impossible to find anime in western countries. Without all the illegal streaming sites, I don't think that would have changed. Companies don't really import foreign forms of media in bulk, generally speaking. The illegal sites, however, made it clear just how popular anime was outside of Japan. But since pirate sites have now basically become an institution in and of themselves it'll take a while to take them apart. And truthfully, I don't think we're at that point anyway. There is a vast library of anime that is still not available legally and won't be for some time and I'd rather be able to watch it than not.





LONGNAMEYOUWONTMISS wrote:

Illegal streaming sites is one of the reasons why anime is still relevant.


Exactly.

Is illegal anime really that bad?

Rather, would anyone be watching anime if illegal anime was wiped out when it sprang up?

I'd think that the 'illegal' anime industry is helping out.

Illegal anime helps publicize anime series. Once people find out about a series, it is more likely they will buy merchandise than if they didn't see the series (duh). The purpose of anime isn't to just entertain us and sell anime DVDs, it's to make the series known.

The LN industry has recently seen a big boom. Why? Because of the illegal anime/LN industry. Had the illegal forms not existed, sales would be many, many times lower.
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^ kinda reminds me of how Naruto didn't become the next DBZ possibly because it was taken off TV.
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Meh. The baddies win again. GO GO GO!!!!! <3
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I watch things I can here on crunchyroll legally. (I have a paid account for HD). EVerything else, when I want to watch it, I watch it somewhere else. That's final, and not going to change, no matter how many people/companies/governments whine about and/or what there arguments are. If I want to watch a show, I will watch it, right now. I won't be the only imbecile in my entire friend circle who won't watch an airing show just because it doesn't happen to be available on crunchyroll, only to be spoiled everytime I open facebook, so that if it finally gets licensed 6 months later I won't have any fun watching it anymore. PERIOD.



Well I find that if you have access to netflix, crunchyroll, and Hulu, your anime selection should be covered. They even have some legit youtube channels like Funimation and Manga entertainment with a wide variety of movies and shows. Sure you have to deal with ads but that's a small cost to pay to support the industry.

I only watch anime through these websites, but that's a personal choice so I'm not judging.

I also think there should be more legit websites that give you access to online mangas as well. I only know of crunchyroll and Viz media and for someone who enjoys "Kenichi Mightiest disciple", or "Boys on the Run," I can only read their manga on illegal websites because they have not been translated yet.

Oh yeah I also make sure to tune into Toonami as much as I can because they have really been doing a great job on delivering quality anime to the American audience and I don't want them to get taken off the air again.
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( This is not directed at anyone in particular. )

Am I the only one who notices that, a lot people complain about "Illegal anime" yet they use free accounts with add blocking software. Correct me if I'm wrong, but does that not defeat the purpose of crunchyroll using adds to pay for anime, etc?
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very interesting I wouldn't much thought into it since illegal streaming is not likely going to change anytime soon
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Posted 9/28/14 , edited 9/30/14
I watch it and no, I don't care.


You know what I have to pay to buy an anime dvd with 2 episodes on it? $50. Nu-uh, no way. That's what happened to Naruto too.

And with the 120 anime and more to come that I have watched. I have MUCH more important things to use my money on; I want a house of my own. I will not be spending money milking the anime cash-cows.


I am pro-piracy. I am a proud pirate. With my eye-patch and my steaming sites, I will blast away at the economy with pride! Ahahahaha!

Also Crunchyroll has no hentai and I think that their age restriction things are completely ridiculous. I'm only on this site to chat with people. I don't bother with the crap anime. Thank god there are better sites for that. I would never lift a finger to support crunchyroll.




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This reminded me of when I went to download the android Crunchyroll manga app and I looked at the review comments. There were people who basically said, "Why would they charge a subscription just for me to read manga. Other apps don't do that."

I will admit, I first came to enjoy anime (and other shows) by watching stuff put up on youtube or other various sites. I didn't really care, I made the excuse that it was the only way I could watch the shows (I didn't have a credit card or time for a job). Then things changed and I found out about things like Netflix and later Crunchyroll and I was thrilled that I could watch and support some good shows at a reasonable price. I was happy...until One Piece. Did you know that even between Funimation and Crunchyroll, it's not legally possible (last I checked) to watch all of the One Piece episodes? Most of the episodes it is, but there is that little chunk of Thriller Bark that just isn't there. As far as I am aware, situations like that don't really occur with "mainstream" media.
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Mugen417 wrote:
Well I find that if you have access to netflix, crunchyroll, and Hulu, your anime selection should be covered. They even have some legit youtube channels like Funimation and Manga entertainment with a wide variety of movies and shows. Sure you have to deal with ads but that's a small cost to pay to support the industry.



The problem is that not everything is available on those sites, and for people like me that lives in Norway, Hulu isn't available, netlfix only has a handful of anime. crunchyroll of course has a big library but not nearly enough if CR wants to compete with the illegal anime sites. Some have said that if i want to use Hulu or watch anime on Netflix i should just use a VPN, but why should i make it seem like i'm in a different country just for watching anime? the problem is that there is too few legal options to watch anime and if there are then they are expensive, in Norway the only decent site that i can use is CR. I'm for illegal sites, because the amount legal options in Norway is nearly nonexistant.
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Mugen417 wrote:


eragon2890 wrote:

I watch things I can here on crunchyroll legally. (I have a paid account for HD). EVerything else, when I want to watch it, I watch it somewhere else. That's final, and not going to change, no matter how many people/companies/governments whine about and/or what there arguments are. If I want to watch a show, I will watch it, right now. I won't be the only imbecile in my entire friend circle who won't watch an airing show just because it doesn't happen to be available on crunchyroll, only to be spoiled everytime I open facebook, so that if it finally gets licensed 6 months later I won't have any fun watching it anymore. PERIOD.



Well I find that if you have access to netflix, crunchyroll, and Hulu, your anime selection should be covered. They even have some legit youtube channels like Funimation and Manga entertainment with a wide variety of movies and shows. Sure you have to deal with ads but that's a small cost to pay to support the industry.

I only watch anime through these websites, but that's a personal choice so I'm not judging.

I also think there should be more legit websites that give you access to online mangas as well. I only know of crunchyroll and Viz media and for someone who enjoys "Kenichi Mightiest disciple", or "Boys on the Run," I can only read their manga on illegal websites because they have not been translated yet.

Oh yeah I also make sure to tune into Toonami as much as I can because they have really been doing a great job on delivering quality anime to the American audience and I don't want them to get taken off the air again.


Problem being, I live int he Netherlands, so funimation, hulu, and netflix, I literally can not watch a single title on there, and altough crunchyroll licensing here is pretty good, there are still a lot of awesome titles on crunchy (like no game no life) which I can not watch from here due to stupid licensing crap, so I watch those elsewhere. XD
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Without illegal streaming platforms I wouldn't even use Crunchyroll, much less be a paid member. Personally I found Crunchyroll when I was looking around trying to find a particular series online, years ago. Back then I hadn't even established the difference between legal streaming and illegal streaming. I sort of had the mentality that most of what I do online is illegal but doesn't matter (I stay far away from this way of thinking now that I understand more about piracy and how it hurts companies and even entire industries.) I was completely blown away by the difference in quality between Crunchyroll and other sites who don't have licenses, even with the standard quality that free users get. By that point I had accepted that anime is just something you watch with crap resolution whether you like it or not. But with the leap in quality I saw here I decided to stick around.

Little by little I started understanding a bit more about how anime is a regular industry, and how Crunchyroll and other licencors actually support it, so I decided to become a premium user, since I quite like anime. But without free streaming, I probably wouldn't even be into anime now, maybe not even know about it.

I see illegal streaming websites as free advertising. Because at one point, everybody gets tired of the crap quality they offer as well as the unreliability of fansub/dub. And if not, well, every form of entertainment is open to a bit of piracy.
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Posted 9/29/14

cloudff800 wrote:

( This is not directed at anyone in particular. )

Am I the only one who notices that, a lot people complain about "Illegal anime" yet they use free accounts with add blocking software. Correct me if I'm wrong, but does that not defeat the purpose of crunchyroll using adds to pay for anime, etc?


I have to admit, I do use adblocker. But addblockers isn't a bad thing in of it self. There are different types of add blocking softwares out there. Some addblockers only block add elements of a website (basically just hiding the adds) and others use script away meaning that your browser doesn't read the script for the add... And well, if the browser doesn't read the script for the adds then there's no way for the site providers to earn a revenue out of your visit.

I think the total sub amount on CR is higher then what the forum alone can display since not every user is active on the forums.

Also, concerning your comment about people complaining when they use free accounts... Well, some users do have a premium account even if it says that they don't in the forums... And well, that's because their account name's are too long to display on the forum page. Check the spoiler!

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And I'm just sitting here region blocked. So while I want to support this site, to see the most of the content I'm paying for I would also need to pay monthly for VPN tunneling to gain access, or just torrent them.
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I'm on the fence with this subject to be honest.

On one side I am all for full support of the industry even if it is through legal 3rd party means (FUNi, CR, Hulu, Netflix, and those handful of other legal sites fit this bill), hell if you have the money (I don't) do a full support by buying and shipping the goods from Japan, I know it is possible, and hell once you forget about the shipping at least, it is sometimes cheaper to buy from Japan because they usually get is cheaper (example a manga volume here in the states is 2-3 volumes in Japan or one of their special editions that come bundled with goods)

On the other side though... I will NOT pass up a good show if I want to watch it. Licensing is sadly a pain in the ass, CR, FUNi, Netflix, etc etc just can't keep shows forever (we lost what 11 shows just last month or something here on CR?). Not to mention some good and decent shows are orphaned each and every season and there is nothing we can do about it legally (Jinsei, Encouragement of Climb season 2, Atellier). So sometimes I sadly will go to the dark side so I can watch a show I want to watch, this has reduced significantly since using CR Funi Netflix and Hulu, but sometimes there still is no helping the matter and I have to go somewhere else.


Now what I do hate about the subject are the people who refuse to pay at all, choosing to use free accounts or illegal stream sites and nothing else, and then complain about or put down people who pay saying it is a complete waste of money to pay for something that can be found for free. That is what I hate.
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Posted 9/29/14 , edited 9/29/14
May I please remind people that it is not allowed to post about the use of proxies and the like to get around the region locking on Crunchyroll.
The region locking is not by Crunchyroll's choice, but by the original license holder.

Advertising ways to bypass this may hurt Crunchyroll in the future when trying to attain streaming licenses.

I have just removed a few posts suggesting this.
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