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Posted 9/29/14 , edited 9/29/14
Usually I am all for legal Anime, but if there is no legal way to buy/watch it with english subs, i don't blame people using the dark side.
Sometimes(more like always) it is really a pain to search for legal source, at least through Google.
You always find like 100 pages of illegal sources, so you would have to directly open sites like crunchy, funi, hulu, w/e and search there, which is a real pain.
What I totally despise though are people justifying their illegal behavior with'too expensive so I download it'.... I mean, if it is too expensive, ok, not everyone can afford it, but that is by no means a free pass to download stuff.
You want a car so you can drive around, but it is too expensive? Yeah go steal one
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27 / M / ihlok
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Posted 9/29/14
i came to know about anime, manga, ln and crunchyroll from illegal sites
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Posted 9/29/14
Most good stuff don't air legally in most countries. What's your take on that mr. OP? Example: around 50% of the series shows in Crunchyroll due to area restrictions, cant, havent, or never will be shown to some countries. I originally joined this site in 2004? Because I wanted to watch the digimon series. Well, it _still_ says after 10 years "we're trying to get the license to air this show in finland..."

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I'm really conflicted on this whole issue. On the one hand I am subscribed to Crunchyroll, Hulu, Funimation, and Netflix to access my anime legally. Built up that's quite a monthly fee I pay for my anime (I do share the Netflix account, so that is thankfully cut in half.) Altogether I think that might equal one season of an anime from Funimation a month, if I were to put my money towards buying DVDs. I suppose my take is support the industry where you can, and when you can't at least encourage others to support it.

For example someone who lives in the UK. They might use CR to stream "The WWW Show". They're supporting the industry a little in that regard. But for some reason they are unable to stream "The RRR Show" on Crunchyroll or anywhere else due to licensing issues. In that case I wouldn't hold it against them to watch an illegal stream of "The RRR Show", but the least they could do while, say, posting in some forums somewhere, is inform US users that the show is available for legal streaming to them.

Also, don't forget that there's lots of cheap merchandise you can buy online to support your favorite shows. Even if you can't afford the DVDs/BluRays you might be able to pick up a pack of trading cards, a plushie, or a pin to support the show's creation and put your money into the industry somehow. Back when I was younger I bought a lot of Naruto trading cards even though I couldn't afford the DVDs, and these days when I like an anime but can't afford its new release I go and buy the manga - which I can pick up in cheaper increments, usually packing more of a story per volume than the anime.

TL;DR: Just support the industry in ways you can and don't sweat the rest. When push comes to shove it'll all be forced to progress as every other industry has.
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I started watching animes since i was 15 years old, when i got a credit card one of the things i made first was to go to Netflix and Crunchyroll to make an account and support what i liked. I've watched anime from illegal streaming and still do sometimes, without it I wouldn't be paying for Anime, because since then i started to like it. Most people won't like anime as much as to pay for it, but i'm sure that almost everyone who really wants to support anime are doing it, and some others are waiting for their first credit card to be able to pay for crunchyroll. So i don't really see how does people who won't buy or pay for anime would affect the anime industry, watching it on some illegal way. What i really find bad is that most of these illegal websites make money with it.
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Posted 9/29/14

leolachante wrote:

I'm really conflicted on this whole issue. On the one hand I am subscribed to Crunchyroll, Hulu, Funimation, and Netflix to access my anime legally. Built up that's quite a monthly fee I pay for my anime (I do share the Netflix account, so that is thankfully cut in half.) Altogether I think that might equal one season of an anime from Funimation a month, if I were to put my money towards buying DVDs. I suppose my take is support the industry where you can, and when you can't at least encourage others to support it.

For example someone who lives in the UK. They might use CR to stream "The WWW Show". They're supporting the industry a little in that regard. But for some reason they are unable to stream "The RRR Show" on Crunchyroll or anywhere else due to licensing issues. In that case I wouldn't hold it against them to watch an illegal stream of "The RRR Show", but the least they could do while, say, posting in some forums somewhere, is inform US users that the show is available for legal streaming to them.

Also, don't forget that there's lots of cheap merchandise you can buy online to support your favorite shows. Even if you can't afford the DVDs/BluRays you might be able to pick up a pack of trading cards, a plushie, or a pin to support the show's creation and put your money into the industry somehow. Back when I was younger I bought a lot of Naruto trading cards even though I couldn't afford the DVDs, and these days when I like an anime but can't afford its new release I go and buy the manga - which I can pick up in cheaper increments, usually packing more of a story per volume than the anime.

TL;DR: Just support the industry in ways you can and don't sweat the rest. When push comes to shove it'll all be forced to progress as every other industry has.


I don't care about the people out of NA, if they don't have the show licensed, torrent away. It's the people in NA that are torrenting/illegally streaming licensed anime and trying to justify it that bothers me.
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47 / M / Santo Domingo, Do...
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Posted 9/29/14
When companies finally accept that the old distribution methods are dead and embrace legal electronic distribution then piracy will be under control. It will never go away but it will be manageable.

The problem lies with distribution rights, especially outside the US. While no local channel in my country plays anime, for some reason most content on crunchyroll is inaccessible to me unless I pay for a service like unblock-us or hma to make it look like I'm in the US. That drives up the cost considerably and makes some people go the illegal route. Japanese publishers really should stop signing obscure distribution rights over to companies who, in most cases, don't end up doing anything to promote the shows but prevent most of us from watching them.

Either crunchyroll lowers the price for users outside the US or they make ALL content available to anyone regardless of location. Until then piracy is going to be a very tempting and viable alternative and the publishers have no one to blame but themselves.

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28 / M / wherever my work...
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Posted 9/29/14
Meh, you get what you pay for. You want better quality, don't steal it.
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Also doesn't help that fansubs are higher quality than legal subs.
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Posted 9/29/14
I use Cruchyroll and Animax to watch shows legally in the UK but sadly anything on the Viz/funi streaming sites plus hulu and netflix don't work here so it's a hugh pain in the ass. If that sort of thing stopped being an issue more people would use the legal sites to watch instead of the Illegal ones.

Also sometimes the offical subs are horridous(squidgirl I'm looking at you) and the fansubs are ten times better. I mean we saw Ghost In The Shell with offical subs at the cinema on saturday and half the subs made no sense it was almsot painful to watch.
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Posted 9/29/14
i try to watch stuff legally but apart from new ones that come out it's hard to find a legal alternative for old anime. And it doesn't help when i can't even watch a new show on legal sites do to licensing problems. If the anime industry wants to stop piracy they should provide a better alternative to view anime legally
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Posted 9/29/14
I love the concept of Crunchyroll. A legal place for mass anime watching. I gladly pay my subscription each month to watch the anime they offer here.

Sadly though they do not have everything I want to watch. Do not get me wrong, for what Crunchyroll is they have quite a selection. and allow you to watch popular ongoing series as they air. pretty impressive how far they have gotten.

I think what is killing sites like this is the liscensers being unwilling to work with them and allow crunchyroll to stream their content.

If money is the issue ill say this. If crunchyroll could get nearly every anime out there on this site I would gladly pay 30 dollars a month to subscribe here.

However crunchyroll, please do not take the hulu route. I have never understood the concept of paying monthly to view ads and never will. If that happens the dream is dead.

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Posted 9/29/14
If the shows are on here on Crunchyroll, I will watch it. If not, you bet I will watch it illegally.
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Posted 9/29/14 , edited 9/29/14
The anime industry is going exactly through what the music and movie industry had gone through from the onset of the internet and digital distribution. There just is no identifiable way of stopping piracy. The only things the anime industry can do is to adapt and provide a much better incentive for retail purchases and paid viewership. Licensed streaming sites like Crunchyroll and Netflix are gaining traction and would be a great place for the industry. Other than that, I believe there should be some sort of protection from data ripping on special disks made specifically for the entertainment industry, though the consumer base would never condone this.
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Posted 9/29/14
I get frustrated with people watching on illegal sites to see things like Attack On Titan, because you can easily watch it on Crunchyroll for free. I don't care if it's a really old show that no one is currently licensing because it would be close to impossible to find a way to watch it legally. Basically, I'm only not okay with illegal anime watching when there are legal ways to stream it online.
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