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Posted 9/28/14
Sure.

Then maybe an anime character will end up being interviewed by Jimmy Fallon.
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I dont think its mainstream really, theres like a couple channels that play anime but some of them only play once a week like toonami.
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But I like cute moe shows that are goofy and fluffy and such and I also like harem ecchi shows that are funny and have sexy characters with big boobs like Rias and Lala. Off course ecchi and moe are not the only types of anime I love, i also loe sci-fi and mecha and tons of others, but I do think that me and a LOT of other hardcore otaku, the ones keeping conventions alive by going there and such, would be turned off and become less passionate if there was less cute fluffy moe stuff for example. I don't think you want to replace passionate convention-goers by people watching two mainstream shows and talking about it once a month at work...


And this is another problem. It's the whole 'do we really want it to become mainstream and risk it becoming something it's not'? I'll admit I didn't really delve into the whole 'why mainstream would be bad' so much but what I'm saying is where all the mecha and moe stuff is concerned, that doesn't appeal to the majority of westerners which is why I don't ever see it becoming mainstream. Anime very much caters to Japanese tastes which are very different from western tastes, and unless that changes which I highly doubt it will, it'll remain niche. As much as I'm not incredibly fond of moe stuff, I'll admit I like it to comfort me after watching something really messed up. Anime has very much made itself clear and established what it is, and since I think that's going to push a lot of westerners away, its popularity's not really going to change. That's not to say its popularity won't continue to grow; as we get well into a generation of adults that grew up with anime as accessible as it is now, there'll be a bigger chance they can get their kids interested and so on, but as things stand, and as anime isn't often made to appeal to anywhere but Japan, it's not going to thrive anywhere but Japan, at least not on the level that it is in said country. What's more, a country that hasn't grown up with much anime-merch, shows being that prominent on TV, where it's a staple of that country's culture, only makes it more difficult to be accepted, thus narrowing down the popularity.
Posted 9/28/14

MediocreMichael wrote:

Anime isn't stigmatized - the annoying fans are stigmatized. Overweight goofs squealing "kawaii" and imitating jutsus in broad daylight isn't going to make it look cool.


Wouldn't they stigmatize it because of the fanbase?
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Yeah - what I meant to say was anime isn't really judged on it's own, it's because of the large population of annoying fans that make them think anime is for losers.
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eragon2890 wrote:

But I like cute moe shows that are goofy and fluffy and such and I also like harem ecchi shows that are funny and have sexy characters with big boobs like Rias and Lala. Off course ecchi and moe are not the only types of anime I love, i also loe sci-fi and mecha and tons of others, but I do think that me and a LOT of other hardcore otaku, the ones keeping conventions alive by going there and such, would be turned off and become less passionate if there was less cute fluffy moe stuff for example. I don't think you want to replace passionate convention-goers by people watching two mainstream shows and talking about it once a month at work...


And this is another problem. It's the whole 'do we really want it to become mainstream and risk it becoming something it's not'? I'll admit I didn't really delve into the whole 'why mainstream would be bad' so much but what I'm saying is where all the mecha and moe stuff is concerned, that doesn't appeal to the majority of westerners which is why I don't ever see it becoming mainstream. Anime very much caters to Japanese tastes which are very different from western tastes, and unless that changes which I highly doubt it will, it'll remain niche. As much as I'm not incredibly fond of moe stuff, I'll admit I like it to comfort me after watching something really messed up. Anime has very much made itself clear and established what it is, and since I think that's going to push a lot of westerners away, its popularity's not really going to change. That's not to say its popularity won't continue to grow; as we get well into a generation of adults that grew up with anime as accessible as it is now, there'll be a bigger chance they can get their kids interested and so on, but as things stand, and as anime isn't often made to appeal to anywhere but Japan, it's not going to thrive anywhere but Japan, at least not on the level that it is in said country. What's more, a country that hasn't grown up with much anime-merch, shows being that prominent on TV, where it's a staple of that country's culture, only makes it more difficult to be accepted, thus narrowing down the popularity.


But that's not a problem, that's a good thing. Because countries/people's shouldn't have to change their culture to appeal to western (usually' u.s.a.) tastes. Their country, their culture, and if some people in the west like it for what it is, more power to them. It's a quite creepy/imperialist worldview to want a country go change their (pop) culture to appeal to western society. It would also make for a boring world...
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eragon2890 wrote:

But that's not a problem, that's a good thing. Because countries/people's shouldn't have to change their culture to appeal to western (usually' u.s.a.) tastes. Their country, their culture, and if some people in the west like it for what it is, more power to them. It's a quite creepy/imperialist worldview to want a country go change their (pop) culture to appeal to western society. It would also make for a boring world...


Well not neccessarily. I mean, that's what I was debating about in the first comment. It's not a completely good thing since, given how the industry is struggling to make money, keeping the same small fanbase is probably going to end up showing a degradation in quality over time. Insiders of the industry have even said the reason they often make little slice of life shows is because they don't have the budget to make anything knockout worthy, they have to settle with a completely safe bet. The only way to make more money, is to make more sales, and they can only do that by appealing to more people which means changes to the medium. So it's this whole double-edged sword of both sides having benefits and downfalls, where it goes from there is all personal preference as to which outcome you prefer. But like I say, who knows, maybe parents who grew up with anime will make the whole thing seem more acceptable and they can get their kids interested in which case anime can stay afloat, if not grow, and not have to appeal to other countries. It's honestly hard to predict since you can't really know what'll happen till the time comes.
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Slowly by each day. I remember going to an anime store. It was usually so simple. Not that many people until soon many people had come around to it! I'll never forget that I was talking one person and they told me because they went because if there was any of the popular and big time anime (like AOT and etc) was there and how it seemed he had to watch. I could tell he just into the popularity of it. Which is okay to like popular anime. Just made me realize how big anime is becoming.

You could go into a cell phone store or anywhere and they have a selection of anime. Though, it will only SOA, AOT, and kuroshitsuji.

I hate being one of those people but I don't think I could enjoy anime as much if it did become mainstream.

The bright side is if it does become mainstream is that you have more people to talk about it. More licensing companies and that there will be those who like dubs to watch more anime. We would be able to go and buy more things instead of using online sites.
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eragon2890 wrote:

But that's not a problem, that's a good thing. Because countries/people's shouldn't have to change their culture to appeal to western (usually' u.s.a.) tastes. Their country, their culture, and if some people in the west like it for what it is, more power to them. It's a quite creepy/imperialist worldview to want a country go change their (pop) culture to appeal to western society. It would also make for a boring world...


Well not neccessarily. I mean, that's what I was debating about in the first comment. It's not a completely good thing since, given how the industry is struggling to make money, keeping the same small fanbase is probably going to end up showing a degradation in quality over time. Insiders of the industry have even said the reason they often make little slice of life shows is because they don't have the budget to make anything knockout worthy, they have to settle with a completely safe bet. The only way to make more money, is to make more sales, and they can only do that by appealing to more people which means changes to the medium. So it's this whole double-edged sword of both sides having benefits and downfalls, where it goes from there is all personal preference as to which outcome you prefer. But like I say, who knows, maybe parents who grew up with anime will make the whole thing seem more acceptable and they can get their kids interested in which case anime can stay afloat, if not grow, and not have to appeal to other countries. It's honestly hard to predict since you can't really know what'll happen till the time comes.


Hm, well I like the slice-of-life cute show sand the ecchi harem ones, and the mecha ones. They give me something different to watch than western stuff. I don;t want the difference to dissapear; there is a reason I don't watch western shows almost never: I like sexy chicks/dudes, humor, super-cute stuff with cat ears, and big robots in my fantasies. XD Also what's the point for a maker to have more money to make what he wants, if he can't make what he wants (something related to his culture!), because he is forced to make something which will have appeal in the rest of the world? He/she is just as bound in terms of what he/she can create, and actually in a worse way, one that makes all (pop) culture the world over the same (American...) way. Not a fun development.
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eragon2890 wrote:

Hm, well I like the slice-of-life cute show sand the ecchi harem ones, and the mecha ones. They give me something different to watch than western stuff. I don;t want the difference to dissapear; there is a reason I don't watch western shows almost never: I like sexy chicks/dudes, humor, super-cute stuff with cat ears, and big robots in my fantasies. XD Also what's the point for a maker to have more money to make what he wants, if he can't make what he wants (something related to his culture!), because he is forced to make something which will have appeal in the rest of the world? He/she is just as bound in terms of what he/she can create, and actually in a worse way, one that makes all (pop) culture the world over the same (American...) way. Not a fun development.


But this is the problem, a lot of them don't want to be making the really basic, cheap to make shows either. They want to work on something more fun, but are restricted by a limited budget. There are a lot of great titles out there that could be adapted, but most companies simply don't have a big enough budget to make them. I'm not saying there's anything inherently wrong with liking basic moe shows and the like, they'd still exist, it's just there are bigger projects a lot of them would like to pursue, and which I even as a viewer think would be more interesting. There are plenty of shows that come out that are just 'eh' which a lot of viewers can agree on, and there'd be far less if the budgets were bigger. The aesthetic and main stuff that makes anime 'anime' wouldn't neccessarily have to change, they'd just be able to work on more adventurous projects, adapt more interesting manga and produce them in a more hard-hitting way, rather than make stuff that's just sort of there, one's that no-one really talks about . Under the Dog is a great example of this. It looks like it'll be fantastic and only exists because it received the funding. It's also definitely looking pretty 'anime' to me.
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.anime will never be mainstream. why? cause people are not open publicly about their passion for anime and i don't mean social network i mean open as in having a real convo about anime with someone face to face.


But video games went through that phase and passed.
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It's not mainstream but I think you will find it is much more popular than you think it is. I was surprised at how many people like anime (and Pokemon) when I started college last year.Nobody really lets people know so you never really think that other people like it.
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DON'T LET ANIME BECOME MAINSTREAM GUYS!
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cianbratherton wrote:

It's not mainstream but I think you will find it is much more popular than you think it is. I was surprised at how many people like anime (and Pokemon) when I started college last year.Nobody really lets people know so you never really think that other people like it.


If it's going to be mainstream then it MUST be accepted by everyone. Plus, do we as a fanbase really want to make anime mainstream?
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I think it would at least be cool if there were a few channels on American TV dedicated to anime. Like Toonami should be its own channel.
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