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Gender inequality in Anime?
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I (usually) don't mind if a female character is sexy and has ridiculously huge mammaries as long as they are still well written CHARACTERS with a good/realistic personality and goals.

I personally hate it when people look at a character with big breasts and hastily jump the gun and scream ''sexism'' without knowing a thing about the character in question. Ironically, this is quite close to slut shaming which is an act that feminists strongly oppose.

However, if the girl in question only exists for either Fanservice or Moe appeal, then it becomes a problem.

Another example of gender inequality would be the aforementioned SAO. In the show, the girls seem to only exist so that they can interact with Kirito and lack a certain sense of individuality. In other words, they're only present to make him look better; it's pretty much all about the teen power fantasy.
For example, let's look at Asuna who, at first, did look like a potential action girl, or strong female character. Unfortunately, as time went on she gradually because a tsundere love interest, then a waifu, and part two literally turned her into an trophy to be won.

Yes, it's just one show but it's still a trend that can be observed an many different types of medium. It's not even necessarily mysoginistic, but rather lazy writing; it can be hard for men to write three dimensional female characters.
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StateAlchemistAlex wrote:

haha that would actually be interesting! female eren or ichigo or naruto, does make you wonder if people would still watch?


For Bleach, Ichigo wouldn't exist. Interestingly, Tite Kubo was originally going to have Rukia as the MC, with very different details and story all around. Ichigo only came about when Tite became insecure about whether or not the viewers would prefer a male lead. As bad as it may sound, Ichigo and his story was essentially a last-minute decision, with his looks and personality intentionally being the opposite of Rukia's.
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Claymore?


Only one of the best shounen anime ever made in my humble opinion. The characters aren't miniskirt wearing sex symbols, but actual people.


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Ah, true.

Wasn't sure to mention Ghost in Shell or Black Lagoon? Oh well I mentioned it.
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Greylurker wrote:
but a show using a different core formula relies on different things. Attack on Titan was mentioned. Not counting fan art, do you think the female characters of that series depicted poorly? Sure Mikasa isn't the Main Character but is she depicted as an object of lust for the men of the show?


On the other hand, her entire personality, her only source of motivation and subject of all her inner monologue... is a guy. An often abusive guy at that, one who absolutely does not reciprocate her devotion.

And it's kinda shown as an admirable trait, at least in the anime.

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You're not watching enough shows or you're watching the wrong shows if you really think that.
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disclaimer: am not racist or sexist. so don't misconstrue my words.

personally believe Japanese culture/Asian culture is different from Western culture in terms of gender role. the Asians have a very stringent gender role, especially for men and women. if you talk to an Asian person (especially older ones), they will say something along the lines of... "Men don't cook, they do manual work around the house, women must cook" etc.

Western culture is more lax when it comes to gender roles; however... having said that, I still see Western women making the bed for their husband in the Children's hospital that I work in. Which I find to be peculiar, because... like... "Why can't you make your own bed?" thought pops in my head.

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So when it comes to anime, if you notice, when the writers are male, they usually put the female characters on the back burners, while the male characters would shine and be the ones to save the world (and the female characters). I just think Asian male writers have this ideology stuck in their head, that men must be responsible for everything heroic and chivalrous, while women are the weaker gender.


Of course not all the male writers are like this, Kill la Kill is an example where female characters are put on the forefront... and the male characters are the support roles. That's why I find this anime to be revolutionary, it gained success while breaking that social gender role ideology.
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Will you watch an anime with moe looking anime characters who have good/realistic personality and goals?

I wonder.
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Well of the season that's just wrapping up, of the shows I watched, 6 of them had females as the main characters (i.e. the very centre of the story such as Sabagebu and Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-Kun, not including stuff like Barakamon or Nokujouma), some of which were rather good, and one of my favourite shows from the season prior (Soredemo) had a female as the main character as well, and left me very much hoping for a second season. I mean hey, Ghost in the Shell, one of my favourite sci-fi anime has a female MC. And don't get me started on Revvy from Black Lagoon, I freakin' loved that show, even though Rock was more of the main character.
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The female characters are usually a lot more annoying - they are a key part in deciding whether or not I drop a show (if there's too much squealing and all that b.s.)
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qualeshia3 wrote:




Ah, true.

Wasn't sure to mention Ghost in Shell or Black Lagoon? Oh well I mentioned it.


Fate/Stay and Soul Eater too. Even the most narrowed-minded can't ignore those juggernauts.
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qualeshia3Wasn't sure to mention Ghost in Shell or Black Lagoon? Oh well I mentioned it.


Well... If you want to be nitpicky Makoto Kusanagi is certainly sexualised, but that's actually an aspect of her personality. She's a bi-sexual showoff.

Technically the protagonist of Black Lagoon is a guy I guess, but he's more there to be the "normal" point of view character, all the characters moving the plot are women. It's also really light on fanservice: in fact it goes completely the other way since it shows that treating women as merchandise is REALLY friggin' awful.


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IS ANYTHING OKAY WITH YOU PEOPLE ANYMORE??


Of course! Admitting a work has some problematic bits isn't the same as saying that it's bad.

One of favourite animes of all time? Tengen-Toppa Gurren-Lagann. Love it to death, although it's one of the most sexist shows I ever watched,

Another one I love is Cowboy Bebop, where the women are sexy and the protagonist's lost love could be replaced by a refrigerator for all the personality she's got. It's still friggin' awesome.

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AmazingStef wrote:


Greylurker wrote:
but a show using a different core formula relies on different things. Attack on Titan was mentioned. Not counting fan art, do you think the female characters of that series depicted poorly? Sure Mikasa isn't the Main Character but is she depicted as an object of lust for the men of the show?


On the other hand, her entire personality, her only source of motivation and subject of all her inner monologue... is a guy. An often abusive guy at that, one who absolutely does not reciprocate her devotion.

And it's kinda shown as an admirable trait, at least in the anime.



Mikasa is a bad example for that show. She's got some serious issues from her past and latches onto Eren to steady herself.
The characters in that show, male and female, have a wide array of characterizations and various copying mechanisms for all the crap they go through. The other prominent female characters (Hanji, Annie, Christa, Potato girl, etc) don't latch onto a male character and aren't really demeaned in a misogynistic way. They're all sort of nuts, but I think the only sane character in that show is Jean.
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True.
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