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Gender inequality in Anime?
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Shnooze wrote:

It boils down to perspective, and what you choose to watch. I feel like girls get just as much fanservice as guys do in modern anime, so I'm completely fine with what the guys get in their shows, because I get equally as neat stuff, like NEVER ENDING WAVES OF SHOUJO ANIME.




All I'll say is that these two arguments somewhat represents my view. SOMEWHAT. I would rather not argue about this one right now, maybe another day.
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This is anime if you wish to be a feminazi please go do it in the real world.
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Is there gender inequality in anime?

It's like asking if antisemitism is in music. In certain cases? Yes. On a whole? No.
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The most talked about in this threat is fanservice. There have been some animes that try to bring equal fanservice. Kill la Kill being placed big time. That anime did have equal fanservice and wonderful female protagonists.

It does deepen on the genre but also on what type of audience it's picking up. One of my favourite genres is shonen. Anyone can tell the the typical shonen most of the time has their female characters thrown to the side or hardly show them at all. They are often used as plot device, love interest, or just fanservice. But I've noticed that they are trying to bring more female characters or sometimes protagonists. Sometimes they say that side female protagonist should have been the main character! Though, in media (not just anime) are scared to have a female protagonist because it might not do so good or have very low ratings.

One thing I have seen is saying that a female characters need to be 'strong'. Physically strong. When they don't need to be because there can be many different types and need to be seen as a character, not solemnly by their gender and body strength alone. This goes for male characters too. Overall, I think its great more anime is trying to do so but there still isn't enough yet.
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Posted 10/2/14 , edited 10/2/14

Insomnist wrote:
I'd say relevant works by Satoshi Kon, Hayao Miyazaki and Mamoru Hosoda, as well as:



You went all out didn't you

I appreciate it. I have seen nozaki-kun and a couple of the others, but will definitely check the rest out. Thanks mate.
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Nearly every anime/manga is. Artist's are usually geared towards feminine sexuality
i.e. Short skirts, big boobs, ass sticking out, etc...

When it's not however related to provocative clothing or sexual actions, they stereotype female behaviour.
So by this I mean they make the girl act in a certain way, like obsessed over a male character, clumsy, 'super girly', these sorta things.

Honestly it's really different to think of an Anime that doesn't have a non-sexist female character in anime, the closest I can maybe think of is Saber from Fate/Stay Night, but if memory serves right (watched it years ago) there were still a few lewd scenes of her, and other characters were also portrayed quite sexually.
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I personaly tend to enjoy male led Anime more simply because I'm a guy and can almost invision myself in their shoes. For example I'm more likely to watch a romance Anime where a guy is the main character and has girls after him. I have watched plenty of Anime's with female leads as well but those are usualy Action etc... such as Kil La Kill. I'm also one of the rare breed of guys that dislikes the giant cow utters they give a lot of female characters in Anime. But a quality story and I can get past that.
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Posted 10/3/14 , edited 10/3/14

StateAlchemistAlex wrote:

I've noticed when I've watched anime that most main characters are always boys. If a girl does end up being the main character it never ends up being fancy. Do you think there is preference of men over girls in Anime? Could someone like Naruto or Ichigo have been a woman instead of a boy?

Would you agree that woman in anime are always represented as being lewd and only used as a tool for sexual attraction to please the fan base? And I am aware of things like Yaoi, but please ignore that.


are woman portrayed fairly?




Shonen shows generally have male main characters, Shoujo shows generally have female main characters. It's just how it typically works out.

If you want some fighting shows where female characters are prominent, there is Air Master, Shadow Skill, Ikkitousen (lots of fanservice), Queen's Blade (even more fanservice), Slayers.
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if T&A is prominent in shounen and seinen, what would it be for shojo and josei, boku no pico? In other words, fanservice is relative to the genre, shojo has female protagonists and fanservice is orientated to fit that. Anime just happens to have a larger spectrum of viewers that are young males, (correct me if I'm wrong) that is why many series usually have a male protagonist.
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I enjoyed Ouran High School Club for the main character's father. A father & yet not afraid to be who they are, a transvestite working a bar to make tips and pour people drinks... and listen to their stories ~ <3 ~
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Posted 10/3/14

LoomyTheBrew wrote:


Shnooze wrote:

It boils down to perspective, and what you choose to watch. I feel like girls get just as much fanservice as guys do in modern anime, so I'm completely fine with what the guys get in their shows, because I get equally as neat stuff, like NEVER ENDING WAVES OF SHOUJO ANIME.




All I'll say is that these two arguments somewhat represents my view. SOMEWHAT. I would rather not argue about this one right now, maybe another day.




If you do, make sure it is in the superior thread.
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I have a quick bone to throw.

No it is not equal


Tatami Galaxy, an amazing show about a guy who goes through college life hoping to live that rose colored campus life. Also known as have a girlfriend.

Each episode shows the Protagonist's 2 Years of college as he joins a club, meets friends, and does shit.

At the end of each failed 2 years, time resets and the entire 2 years restarts with him in a different club, somehow meeting the same friends and living a similar life.

The minor differences lay in who he spends his time with and how he see's each person. The end result has him realize that people are more than just a single viewpoint. That when he looks at things from a different angle, he see's that people aren't so clear cut.
For example, in one episode the antagonist is a rather mean senpai who makes movies and picks on our Protagonist. In another episode, the protagonist befriends him, and in another they're rivals in love. The Senpai never changes who he is, we simply see him from different perspectives.

This is true for every single male character within the show.

However, the show never sits down to show us who or what the Female characters are like. In fact, the show insists that the best possible result is that our protagonist hooks up with the main Heroine. IN fact, in 1000 timelines, he is always able to ask her out, and only once does he do it. That's supposed to be the good timeline.

Perhaps she shouldn't go out with a guy who fails to pursue her in over a thousand timelines? Perhaps she meets someone far better sometime?

Or do we never see her story? She's just better as an accessory to his arm?

That's just a recent one I wanted to point fingers at.

As good as the anime is, and I'm talking 8/10 worthy, it's considerably worse if you can't Identify with a hero so insert that he doesn't have a name. All because he has a Gender 50% of the population doesn't have, and that is a big thing.
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RolexKid wrote:

if T&A is prominent in shounen and seinen, what would it be for shojo and josei, boku no pico? In other words, fanservice is relative to the genre, shojo has female protagonists and fanservice is orientated to fit that. Anime just happens to have a larger spectrum of viewers that are young males, (correct me if I'm wrong) that is why many series usually have a male protagonist.


It's kind of split among young people though girls seem to read more Manga than boys do in their teens so maybe for Anime there are more male viewers. Shojou is pretty popular in Japan a lot more than in the west. The main thing is the effect of Otaku the hardcore obsessive fans who spend a lot of money on Anime and goods and these are mostly males from late teens to 30's. They have the most disposable income and are the main target audience which is why Anime with cute girls geared towards male fantasy exist so these heavily sexist Mommy's boys can get their rocks off over some submissive girl who is overly obsessed and impressed by a male. They buy all her figures and goods then fantasize about her.

There is just much more money in typical Otaku fodder than anything else it has kept the Anime industry going along with investment into the Western market.

As for fanservice in Shojou it tends to be different when geared towards girls. Sometimes you get straight up man service but it's mostly just surrounding a female MC with different types of guys who have ridiculously exaggerated personalities. The pretty boy who is cool but has a shy side and lack of self confidence so needs to be loved and nurtured. Those tend to be the girl fantasy plots.
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Posted 10/9/14 , edited 10/9/14

asharka wrote:

4 pages and no mention yet of Moribito or Michiko (to Hatchin)? Or did search stop working again...


Thank you...I just searched through the thread to see if anyone had mentioned Moribito. Balsa is the perfect model for female characters we need to see more of.

I had hopes for Asuna in SAO, but then they made her just another princess in the castle...and the roper scene...just wrong.

Some folks might not consider RWBY to be 'anime', but it has great female characters.
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gismode wrote:

This is anime if you wish to be a feminazi please go do it in the real world.


Thank you sir
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