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I think a hikikomori is still different from being an otaku.

An otaku is someone who obsesses over something to the point where it becomes unhealthy and detrimental to their well-being. Otaku does not just apply to being an anime fan - it's a broad term, and applies to people with obsessive interests in anything, from anime to manga to electronics to cars, anything. And it's not just an obsession, like, "Oh, I really love Gunpla and Gundam anime! I'm a huge fan, and keep up with the series as they broadcast. I even own a few figures, and have favorite characters." It's more like... "I really love Gunpla and Gundam anime! I'm more or less an expert in these fields and can tell you anything you want to know about them! I know every single character, and can / will explain to you why X is Y, or why you're wrong about X. I own a ton of Gunpla models, many of which I sacrificed eating for a week / etc. to buy! I place my love of Gunpla / Gundam over my daily needs and / or responsibilities, because it means more to me than those things do." Chances are, if you meet someone in the west who claims to be an otaku, you're running into someone who just really enjoys anime, and doesn't understand the meaning of the word. It's not a simple label.

A hikikomori is someone who will shut themselves off from life, will typically stay inside, won't venture out into public unless it's absolutely 100% necessary, that sort of thing. They are typically someone without a job, or at least, someone with a job that doesn't require them to leave the house, and they stay indoors due to some other reason - maybe extreme social anxiety, maybe a fear of society, it doesn't matter. They just refuse to leave, avoid any and all social contact, and become a shut-in. Being a hikikomori isn't something to be proud of; you'll probably be looked down upon if you say that you are one, because that means you are no longer a healthy, functioning member of society. Again, it's not a simple label.

You can be one, or both, but it's like... Think of a venn diagram. Otaku are on one side. Hikikomoris are on another. You'll end up with some overlap, but they are still two entirely different things. Either way, both are negative in Japan - you don't want to be an otaku, and you don't want to be a hikikomori. That's like proudly proclaiming that you're someone with an unhealthy obsession, or that you're socially incapable of being around other people.
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People who call others weeaboos are usually the same people who call people "retards" or "autistic" out of context because they don't agree with their behavior or opinions. They aren't really trying to use the term to its definition, but instead they're just going out of their way to find a so-called negative name to brand someone they don't like. The term probably won't even be seen as negative in the future, just like how nerd used to be so insulting but is completely acceptable socially now. Even encouraged and considered attractive.

I'd also like to add that I personally don't like labeling myself as an otaku or anything of the sort, even when I might have a few characteristics that belong to the group. I just value my interests and habits as an individual rather than always being part of a group of something. That's just my opinion, I respect people who like to be members of groups and identify themselves with people who are similar to them, so long as they know what the term they are giving themselves actually mean. Which most "otakus" don't.
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People always hate on the term "weeaboo" but the fact is that true weeaboos are damaging to our culture. Especially in the vocaloid fandom where people honestly believe that the west is inferior in practically every way that a fandom can be. They insult our songs, our vocaloids themselves and always shout down attempts for the west to try and break into popularity. Weeaboos are still a common problem. The alleged superiority of japan without proper proof really puts down the west's attempts to improve.

Not to mention that weeabooism has engrained itself into western otaku culture (it may be an insult in japan but I'm fairly sure that we in the west have reclaimed that word) to the point that we can't tell what's weeabooy or not. RWBY is a good case. You can say that rwby is crap (we're all entitled to our opinions) but there was an argument over whever or not it counted as anime. I believe that anime is a style and if the creators think it's anime then it's anime. While disagreeing with me doesn't make you a weeaboo, it certainly is something a weeaboo would say. Couple that with arguments such as "is anime also cartoons" and when people say "it's anime not animes" then you really have to wonder whever or not people are weeaboos in majority here. The truth is that people are scared because we all know that we slightly hint towards weeabooism but we're generally just otakus - or are we? Are the terms mixing together faster than we'd like? I don't know but I'd like to think not. It's ok to think that a specific Japanese thing is better but when does it come to the point that we have a bias toward these things? Truth is that we're in so much blind denial that we really don't know anymore.

I am an otaku in the same way that I'm a geek or a gamer. It's my lifestyle of seclusion into my specific hobby. I do it because I enjoy it.
I'm not a weeaboo - which is something that most people will say. In truth I'm probably no more a weeaboo than you (the reader) are.
I think that we should keep it to ourselves if we are lolicons or not. In the same way that you wouldn't ask somebody if they were a pedo or not - the answer would be no anyway.
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I don't care what people think I am. If something brings me happiness, I couldn't honestly care any less about what they think. If someone wants to walk around in a kimono and clog shoes performing a Japanese festival...


So. Be. It.


I find it funny when people say "Americans shouldn't like ___". America is not a country of Americans. America is a country of millions of different races and cultures, and other the conservative Fox News chicken sh*ts, no one cares. Be accepting of others and maybe this world won't be so deep down the rabbit hole.
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Even Japanese people don't have a singular definition for otaku guys. It's subject to opinion for them just like it does for us.


The negative connotation for otaku dominated in the late 1900s but it has long since evaporated. It has quite a diverse definition today.
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weeaboo makes me think of weenies



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I hate labels in general so.... > >
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For the convenience of knowing and categorizing a large group of people without having to go to the effort of learning about them individually.
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Otaku's negative connotation lies mainly with the older Japanese population.
I have no problem with the way people are using it now. It was slang in the beginning, and slang often doesn't have just one meaning.
Posted 10/1/14

zomgenius wrote:
An otaku is someone who obsesses over something to the point where it becomes unhealthy and detrimental to their well-being. Otaku does not just apply to being an anime fan - it's a broad term, and applies to people with obsessive interests in anything, from anime to manga to electronics to cars, anything. And it's not just an obsession, like, "Oh, I really love Gunpla and Gundam anime! I'm a huge fan, and keep up with the series as they broadcast. I even own a few figures, and have favorite characters." It's more like... "I really love Gunpla and Gundam anime! I'm more or less an expert in these fields and can tell you anything you want to know about them! I know every single character, and can / will explain to you why X is Y, or why you're wrong about X. I own a ton of Gunpla models, many of which I sacrificed eating for a week / etc. to buy! I place my love of Gunpla / Gundam over my daily needs and / or responsibilities, because it means more to me than those things do." Chances are, if you meet someone in the west who claims to be an otaku, you're running into someone who just really enjoys anime, and doesn't understand the meaning of the word. It's not a simple label.


Japanese do it too. If anything, it's an extreme exaggeration.
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I think this is just a case of someone being butthurt again, fuck people get offended over everything take a joke it's reaaaaally not a big deal. Also people calling you a weeb for having an anime DP is just like how people use the word gay for everything now even if it doesn't make sense.
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labels are a part of society as one fellow crunchyroller once informed me ... u need to have a label or else ur "boring"
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i use the term "weeaboo trash" often to describe myself and my actions but mostly as a generalizing term to explain why i had an essay due in an hour but my shows updated so i kinda forgot to do it. Its easier to tell my friends "I was being a weeb and forgot i had homework" rather than explain to them why i stayed up for three hours arguing about whether or not kaneki is in the case or not and subsequently forgot to do something or why i dont feel like going out. they get the reference and our conversation moves onto the next topic.

As for people calling themselves "lolicon" i find it disgusting bc its the only aspect of anime and anime culture i dont like and cant ever find myself not being critical of. The sexualization of young bodies, male or female, gross me out to no end. and its mostly bc my niece is very much into anime like i am and she always wants to cosplay as some of her favorites and its hard to explain to her that if she goes to a con with me i dont want her to cosplay bc there are people there who proudly call themselves "lolicon" and her prepubescent body are exactly why they want to take her picture, not the actual accuracy or workmanship put into her cosplay. Same with Shotacon. its just another pedophiles justification for outwardly expressing their interests without getting shit for it bc "its anime, its cartoons its not real girls."

i think as long as you have a general understanding of the word and its negative connotations then i dont see the problem? if someone calls themselves a weeaboo or otaku i can judge them from afar and if someone calls themselves a loli/shotacon i can keep my distance and remind myself to never make contact with them again.
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to quote Cameron Fry, "Call me Sir Goddamnit!
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Otaku, Weeaboo and Lolicon = all of these things are insults in Japan. Japanese people use these words to make fun of people with obsessive hobbies and unhealthy attractions.

I HATE weaboos and I refuse to associate with their kind.

I don't even like Japan. I just like the anime and music.
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