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Ebola and Bakas
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Posted 10/5/14
People really need prospective... If you regularly wash your hands, have little to no chance of ever coming in contact with someone who has ebola, ie: living in a third world country, and don't regularly make a habit of coming in contact with ebola contaminated fecal matter, your chances of contracting ebola are exceedingly low... There are more serious things for "first worlders" to be worried about. Namely, environmental issues, problems in government, the economy, not to mention the whole "anit-vaxxers" movement that is trying to kill off the human race...

Also, it's pretty funny that considering how long ebola has been around, the only time the world started caring about it is when a white American contracted it, then suddenly there was a vaccine and a huge media explosion.
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Posted 10/5/14

Luchsen wrote:


Yang08 wrote:

Live with a nurse and half my family are doctors....and honestly we think the hysteria over ebola is kind of funny.



Yeah, and they all have experience with ebola... Since the beginning of this ebola outbreak, there were a lot of medical experts who never saw an ebola patient in their life and claimed this and that, and then this and that proved wrong. For example, at the very beginning: "We had a few ebola outbreaks in Africa in the past, and all got under control." Now, in the past ebola broke out in small, isolated villages. Now we had it in high population density areas. And that's the problem for the US and Europe: If there is an ebola outbreak, with the high population density and the high personal mobility, there is no say if it can be controlled. As many resources as there can be, if you have to isolate all people who got in contact with someone infected (and then the people who peopled the people that peopled people), and you suddenly and simultaneously have to establish the necessary facilities, then good night, and good luck.


They don't necessarily need "first hand" experience with ebola... The symptoms are well documented... And have been for quite a while.

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I LOVE YOU EBOLA-CHAN!
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Just remember this is happening in Texas, home of the "replace science with creationism" populous. Wonder if they have laws on the books against witches like a few other states.
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Still, this provides practice to get quarantine right when zombies start surfacing.
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Lykradonai wrote:

I LOVE YOU EBOLA-CHAN!


Ebola-chan is love. Ebola-chan is death. wait... what?
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Posted 10/5/14

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I just look through these posts and half of them seem to be teenagers just outgrowing the weeboo stage


That was my take away from the thread. I really don't even want to post anymore after this.

. With that, I was uncertain of the agenda of this thread. I figured it was to call made up people, or an extreme minority of extremists (those that are against helping those that need help), stupid. Which just disgusts me.


I'm not sure if you're talking about me with that last part, but the point of this was saying that people are getting way ahead of themselves in fear of ebola, and that I don't think it would be right to close the borders, stop aid in Africa, or refuse flights, because our medical industry is trained and able to handle the disease. People who are against helping others are stupid, plain and simple.

And I used the word baka because this is an anime site. If anyone is offended by people who are interested in Japanese culture on a Japanese entertainment site, they're in the wrong place.


I too think that closing the border and not sending aid is going too far. But our medical industry is working on this as hard as they can, right now they are basically testing every new drug they make for Ebola in hopes that one of the will work and that really says a lot about how bad they think this is.

Another thing is that if people and the media don't get ahead f themselves over things like this then it will simply be a one time news story that is swept under the rug, and that's not good. By saying that this is the worst outbreak and everything and constantly running stories on it the general populace is able to keep tabs on what is happening because people don't just go out and google information on this stuff everyday; its a way to keep almost everybody informed on what is happening concerning the latest outbreak.

As for use of the word baka, I understand it is an anime site, but using it for such a serious discussion makes one seem young and childish. As I said in my post people are relating this to the swine flu outbreak then calling everybody an idiot for getting all worked up, but these are two very different outbreaks. Maybe I should have posted the mortality rate for swine flu as well as the survival rate for Ebola, but lets hope this puts in into perspective. The mortality rate for swine flu is about 10% meaning that 90% of people that get the H1N1 virus will live. The survival rate of Ebola is 40% and that's less than half. So simply saying "its just like swine flu you bakas!!" is a huge understatement in some areas.

Another thing to be disliked though is that whole "good luck Ebola-chan we love you" thing. That's really just sick and wrong. That makes the people posting that seem even more childish than the people simply using the word baka is this forum post. I know the internet has the personification of random things, but a deadly disease that is running amuck in other countries at the moment is just wrong.
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I don't know if I'd call Todd Kincannon (former executive director of the South Carolina GOP who has an extensive history of making inflammatory comments on his Twitter feed) an idiot, but I'd certainly say that his comments on a great many subjects are idiotic. When you call for the standard response protocol to a positive diagnosis for ebola to be euthanasia of the patient you've said something profoundly idiotic, Overton window be damned. A discussion on public health policy isn't a haggling match, you don't start at genocide in order to work your way down to border closures. The same goes for a discussion on transgender peoples' rights: you don't start at opening concentration camps (seriously, no Godwin committed) in order to work your way down to pretty much fucking anything.

Fortunately he's a former executive director of the South Carolina GOP at this point, but think about what that also means: a man like that was once an executive director of an entire state's GOP. South Carolina Republicans, you've some very tough introspection to do. This is ridiculous.
Posted 10/8/14
Actually, it's now getting serious and scary. It's coming to Australia, 1 or 2 suspected cases here already.

The transmission of the virus isn't as easy as flu/cold, but it's easier than Hepatitis because it can enter through your mouth and nose through bodily fluid. This means if you touch an infected person's bodily fluid, you have a high chance of becoming infected yourself.


This isn't like swine flu, where the virus can only thrive in immuno-compromised people; Ebola virus can thrive in healthy people. And there are no vaccinations or treatment available.
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Ebola has just claimed it's first victim here in 'Merica. It'll happen again soon. Just watch.
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Posted 10/9/14
thats the power of the media. you won't hear about it until they feel it's necessary to tell
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Ebola, while very bad, doesn't pose that much of a risk for outbreak in North America since the facilities exist here to treat it effectively.
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Posted 10/9/14

GayAsianBoy wrote:

Actually, it's now getting serious and scary. It's coming to Australia, 1 or 2 suspected cases here already.

The transmission of the virus isn't as easy as flu/cold, but it's easier than Hepatitis because it can enter through your mouth and nose through bodily fluid. This means if you touch an infected person's bodily fluid, you have a high chance of becoming infected yourself.


This isn't like swine flu, where the virus can only thrive in immuno-compromised people; Ebola virus can thrive in healthy people. And there are no vaccinations or treatment available.



http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/canadian-ebola-vaccine-safety-trials-move-ahead-newlink-genetics-says-1.2792722

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Beat me to it.
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So, ebola won't have much effect over here in the US because our medical system is so good and our society is so developed? That all worked out so well at controlling HIV, now didn't it?
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