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Post Reply How "evil" can you be? (Not for the faint of heart)
Posted 10/7/14
I've done horrid things to animals. Just insensitive, cruel and messed up shit that people more deserve.
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Depends on the severity of the issue. If I can help them without severely busting my ass or placing myself in severe danger I'll help them out, but say they were in a massive debt or being beaten up by a gang of thugs, I wouldn't go out of my way to help them, because that could be cripplingly dangerous to me. Generally speaking, if I see an opportunity to be a decent human being I'll take it, I don't need any motives, but the severity of the issue/s in question are a factor. After growing up in a way that I've seen the massive asshats and tossers that some people can be, I refuse to stoop to their level and go with the whole 'If you can't beat them join them' routine.

In my eyes, frankly, if you act like a dick to someone, or even just indecent, regardless of who they are you're still showcasing that you're willing to be a dick, and that says just as much about you as it does them. I can think of all sorts of cruel and sadistic things, that's really not hard, but the difference between me and them is I don't actually carry those things out, because I'm not a sadistic piece of shit who takes pride in making people's lives crash and burn, nor do I believe that's a 'cool' thing to do. You don't prove you're better than someone you hate, by being a hateful person.

Though I do wonder how many people get 'kindness' and 'being a decent fucking human being' mixed up. For example, holding a door open; I wonder how many people would view that as a kind act rather than just an average act of manners in general. Common decency shouldn't be a hard thing to come by but it often is. Why, only recently when I was walking the dogs with my mother, a young man stopped and gave the dogs a quick fuss, then wished us a good night. My mother questioned whether he was maybe disabled because of how few people would actually say that.

Pretty much says how fucking rude some societies can be, when someone simply wishing you good night blows you away to the point of questioning their mental state. As such I strive to not fall into the general group that people think about when they bring up the rude side of an entire estate. I'd rather be known as that guy who held open a door, than that guy who always takes up two spaces in the car park (the most evil act of all). Speaking of holding open doors, I like to think the difference between someone who's a bit of a twat, and someone who isn't is one of them thinks 'Ooh, I'll get this for them to save them the faff' and the other thinks 'Ooh, time to show off what a kind and caring person I am'.

At the end of the day if you can help someone out without it being any skin off your nose, just fucking do it. It's not a case of 'I'm not obliged to'; of course you're not fucking 'obliged to'... whether you are 'obliged to' or not shouldn't even cross your mind, you should just do it out of common decency. You don't have to even be a 'kind' person, in fact you shouldn't even view it as being an act of generosity and kindness, it's just being a decent person and then continuing with your day. I will say obviously anyone with the slightest trace of a brain can tell my experiences don't account for everyone elses, but I will add that thus far after living a life of not being a dick to the people who were a dick to me, I've come out perfectly fine, and I live in one of the roughest areas of my country.

But then the world needs people like me to balance stuff out, because if everyone just had the mindset of 'I don't have to so I won't' the world would be a bigger shithole than it already is, and don't mistake that as me bragging, I'm actually depressed that a lot of people have that mentality. I'm certainly not perfect either, but I'm not saying 'be perfect' or 'be a saint', I'm saying be decent, be good. We all make mistakes and have our off moments, but plenty of us control the severity of the actions we carry out when we feel like being cruel. If you feel you have to justify your reasons for being evil, chances are the thing you did was evil, and saying something like 'I'll admit it I can be evil' or 'Yeah, I'm a coward' are the ultimate scapegoat for running away and trying to justify the unjustifiable.

Admitting you're an asshole doesn't make you being an asshole okay, no more than a murderer admitting they're a murderer makes things okay. It's not something to take pride in, it's something you should try to resolve for yourself. I mean seriously, if you think avoiding doing something for someone under certain circumstances might be evil, why the hell would you risk going through with doing things the evil way. If you think 'this might be evil' and go through it anyway, then yes you're likely an asshole, because you're showing you're willing to be evil and then shrug it off with 'not my problem'. A guy could stand and watch a steamroller approach a murderer who's unconscious on the road, but leaving him and saying 'not my problem' in no universe makes him a good guy. It makes him a guy who will gladly see death brought to someone no different than the murderer. Otherwise we end up with the whole ideology of 'The way to punish murderers is murder, the way to punish a rapist is more rape but involving them' and in my mind no sane person should wish that shit upon someone and actually mean it. When you stand there and say 'this person should be raped' regardless of who that person is or what they've done, you're still saying the go ahead should be given for someone to be raped.
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Well when it comes to it I see it as there being a line between sane, but partially evil with your intent, and then complete and utter sadism. I mean, normally evil people would think of bad things to do to other people, but sadistic people can think of much worse things, like for example I got bored during my Int. Business class and started to think of ways to torture a human being. Later on I figured out that the most painful thing I can imagine would be skinning them alive, and dunking them in salt-water, just think about that. I'd call that sadism.
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Too much horrible crap has happened to me in my life whether is was through my disability or hurtful acts.. The things people have done to me, not helped with ect...

its makes you go one of two ways, everyone Ill be an ass back and wont care, or I want to try to be better than that so others dont feel this way...

I went the more positive way

one event I will always remember which makes me sad more for my mum than me... was when I was 6 I had one of these on each leg, I was in a wheel chair a lot of the time.

warning may be too graphic for some
its called a fixator

pins connect to one side of the frame go through the leg/ bone and connect to the fame on the other side. its painful and the open wounds are sore.

my mum and I were on a walk to get some air id been stuck in the house for days.... I was in my wheelchair and a piece of the pavement/sidewalk caved in, my wheelchair tipped over and I fell out. Both legs and fiaxtors crashed to the ground.. It was extremely painful, I was in agony, my legs were bleeding, I was crying and my mum was shouting for help 12 people just walked by..... Some even walked faster to get away...

the fiaxtors back then were VERY HEAVY they aren't made from the light weight metal they are now... she couldnt lift me back into the chair on her own and I couldnt stand... thankfully my mums friend lived in the area and heard us from their garden he recognised mums voice , he helped mum get me back to my wheelchair and calmed us down...I ended up in hospital...

I will never forget that memory because my mum felt helpless, she was scared, I was crying and no one helped her......

It makes me sad to think about that....


it could have made me think everyone, but I choose to not let that and other things like it turn me into someone uncaring.....I will and have helped other in need... I find they go on to help others too when they need it.. things like this help our society be less

you cant change other peoples behaviour but you can change your own

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Posted 10/7/14
I come back to this topic and still see people implying(or moreso than that) that I'm some crazy bitch, despite the fact I never did anything wrong, or evil. It shows a little more insight into how some people think, as this they are downplaying the notion that they are even capable of any non saint acts. There's no use is saving the life of a criminal, or returning something stolen from a thief, what does it matter? Would you save a rapist from getting raped?

Saying: "Oh, jail/prison is where they should go. Not raped/murdered/tortured." Even prison has all those things. People should reap what they sow, and just the generic. "Put them behind bars." Is lazy and shows how screwed up your moral compass really is, I bet there are people in this very topic that are a lot worse than I am, and I mean a lot worse, heck, I might have the "best" morals!

I have another question for those who see this.

Tell me, instead of murdering a murderer/letting him fall to his doom, what would you say his sentence should be?
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Magical-Soul wrote:

I come back to this topic and still see people implying(or moreso than that) that I'm some crazy bitch, despite the fact I never did anything wrong, or evil.


But you are! You literally let the final nail into a guy's coffin be hammered in just because 'you didn't like him' and then laughed about the fact he might be dead. No fucking sane person does that, regardless of the person in question, though this was arguably worse since the fact you 'didn't like him' makes you think that's enough to justify laughing about him maybe being dead. Unless you're willing to elaborate on why you hated him so much, you have no right to say people are getting the wrong end of the stick. We can only go on what you've told us, and the way I see it what you've told us doesn't justify adding to the suffering of a guy who's life is already a living hell. You can't expect us to relate when you don't tell us why you disliked the guy so much you would be happy to hear he died.
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Magical-Soul at the rate you are going this is a thread dedicated to masochism or sadism. Either way it is sad to see topics like this.
Posted 10/7/14
So sad that there are many apathetic people in this thread.

Stranger or not, if I had the opportunity to save someone, I would.

I usually treat people how they treat me, so if you are nice to me I will be 100x nicer to you but if you are rude to me, I will just act like you don't exist because I don't believe in lowering myself to other people's levels.

Kindness is the best feeling in the world. I've been shown kindness by mere strangers and those moments stayed in my heart because without them, I wouldn't have been better. So, I want to return the favor and try to show kindness to those around me unless they're complete assholes.


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Posted 10/7/14
Altruistic tsundere...

yeah... I have no idea why I do it, I just move.

If you're rude to me, I assume you're having a bad day or you just don't like me, benefit of the doubt.
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I wish to add my view into this.

Now here I see two main people who's beliefs have caused some debate. These two are Magical-Soul and Phersu.
These two in my eyes, are on a path towards corruption.

Magical Soul believes that a person that is living a very hard life due to poverty should be fired simply because this person wasn't liked by Magical Soul. This person who begged not to be fired in order to keep his life and the life of his family from ruin was possibly ruined because of her choice. You Magical Soul could of ruined the lives of a family out of your own dislike towards him. This in my view, shows Magical Soul as selfish and cruel, with no regard for others.
As for Magical Soul believing that two wrongs make a right, that isn't correct. Killing a Murder makes you one unless in the defense of yourself or others, for more life could of been lost because of the actions of the murderer. Killing after they have been captured makes you at the same level as they are. That's why I despise the death penalty, because despite the fact this person murdered another, it doesn't mean that you should kill another out of what is simply revenge. That's what the penalty is, revenge.

So my answer is to lock this murder away, where he can't harm another being. It stops the loss of life

Phersu believes that if a person's life is in danger, that he should just leave them alone. If Phersu's life was in risk because of the situation, I would understand. This situation that he place does actually cause the risk of Phersu falling off with the other person, but he also said that if he could 100% save this person without death, he still wouldn't. This shows that Phersu has no regard for the lives of others and simply doesn't care if he could of saved that person.

Now, I wish to say thank you to BLACKOUTMK2. BLACKOUTMK2, I am glad to see that there are people in the world who believe in same morals, with light in their hearts. Frankly, too many people have degraded to the level of evil that these two have, believing that the only way to survive is to fall to that level. I believe that to be a decent human being is to do many good things with no ulterior motives, which should be true. But the problem is that much of the world is corrupted. I wish to make the world a better place too, even if I can only do so with my voice ,my words and my actions.

Aura-chan, I also am glad that you believe that people can still have a heart. You choose to be the light so others don't feel hurt by any actions you do. You understood that two wrongs don't make a right, but a right can undo some wrongs.

I think that humanity should and can be better than this.
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Posted 10/7/14
The most evil i have probably been-

My dog is old. She is my dog. I'm the only one in the family who takes care of her. Basically she gets sick and has diarrhea all over the house and all over herself, and also in my room which no one is ever aloud in because it always smells like my dog. Waking up to diarrhea all over the house every day (carpets) really REALLY drains you. Every day starts with you scrubbing shit out of the carpet (she wouldnt do it in one place, she would walk around and do it, and also step in it as well and track shit even more), and also cleaning up the dog herself, wiping her behind and all of that, only to know the next day I'll probably have to do it again. (she has weekly episodes every other week or whatever, sometimes once a month if I'm lucky).

This made me wish once that she would just die. She's old anyway. I love her but I didn't know how much longer I could live like that. It especially angered me that when my father and brother would see the dog they would just treat her like a pet, showering her in hugs and kisses and whatever, when I was the one who really made that all possible by cleaning all the shit off of her an hour or two before. I'm at school now so I haven't had to deal with it, but all the questions my family have been asking me over the last month on "how to exactly take care of the dog" every day have been making me feel great. Finally, they get a taste of what it's like.


yeah that's true evil.
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Posted 10/7/14
Is he even in the category "really evil" when he did not make those things or whatever.

I say hes lawfully evil so hes legit to me.
Posted 10/7/14
Wow, there's a lot of drama on this thread.

Anyway, no. I'm not even slightly evil. I guess that's why people treat me the way that they do because I'm "nice and quiet" they order me around and treat me pretty badly but still I would never say or do anything evil upon them.
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Oh, I used to be a thieving little bastard in primary school. Hopefully admitting to this won't get me convicted. So, between the ages of 8 and 12 what did I steal? *Cracks knuckles*

* Let's start off pretty tame. One time when I didn't do my maths homework, I stole my friend's, erased the name and tried to pass it off as my own... It would have worked if I erased his name on the middle page, too.

* I stole a bunch of one of my friends felt tip pens because I thought they were cool and I wanted them.

* This guy who wasn't exactly liked, due to him being a bit of a bully, had a huge pack of Yu-Gi-Oh! cards, and a few of my friends thought a great way to get him back was to steal them. I don't know how it was decided who would do it, or if many of them were even that serious, but a couple of us were serious and I was the one who took them.

* I definitely stole a great deal of Pokemon cards, but from various people I probably didn't know.

* Game Boy Color. So, on Fridays we would have about half an hour at the end of the day to pretty much play around with things we were allowed to bring from home. So, being a terrible child I stole a Game Boy Color that someone put down for a second. I mean, it's awful, I know, but I'm trying to remember it and I'm smiling at the thought, because I had to have been pretty cunning and have great timing to pull it off, because it was so out in the open.

* Sticking with Nintendo, a classmate brought in a Game Boy Advance. We all know where this is going.

* A friend invited me around to his house once and I stole his game of Sonic Heroes that I later found out was a birthday present. Oh, and I stole his little brother's GBA SP. It wasn't until years later, when I sent him a chain letter (because of course I was a complete moron) that he came around to my house with his parents and well... yeah. He said he always suspected it was me. And hey, a couple of years later we met up in college and became friends again, so all's well that ends well.

* Oh, and a couple of times I stole sweets from small newsagents/corner stores.

* Uh... Oh, and a couple of times I stole souvenirs from museum gift shops.

Most recently, as an adult, I've stolen a bit of money from my family here and there, since I needed it, but who doesn't? But, other than that, after growing up I haven't stolen anything... that I know of.

So, did I win?
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CreatorTheta wrote:

I wish to add my view into this.

Now here I see two main people who's beliefs have caused some debate. These two are Magical-Soul and Phersu.
These two in my eyes, are on a path towards corruption.

Magical Soul believes that a person that is living a very hard life due to poverty should be fired simply because this person wasn't liked by Magical Soul. This person who begged not to be fired in order to keep his life and the life of his family from ruin was possibly ruined because of her choice. You Magical Soul could of ruined the lives of a family out of your own dislike towards him. This in my view, shows Magical Soul as selfish and cruel, with no regard for others.
As for Magical Soul believing that two wrongs make a right, that isn't correct. Killing a Murder makes you one unless in the defense of yourself or others, for more life could of been lost because of the actions of the murderer. Killing after they have been captured makes you at the same level as they are. That's why I despise the death penalty, because despite the fact this person murdered another, it doesn't mean that you should kill another out of what is simply revenge. That's what the penalty is, revenge.

So my answer is to lock this murder away, where he can't harm another being. It stops the loss of life

Phersu believes that if a person's life is in danger, that he should just leave them alone. If Phersu's life was in risk because of the situation, I would understand. This situation that he place does actually cause the risk of Phersu falling off with the other person, but he also said that if he could 100% save this person without death, he still wouldn't. This shows that Phersu has no regard for the lives of others and simply doesn't care if he could of saved that person.

Now, I wish to say thank you to BLACKOUTMK2. BLACKOUTMK2, I am glad to see that there are people in the world who believe in same morals, with light in their hearts. Frankly, too many people have degraded to the level of evil that these two have, believing that the only way to survive is to fall to that level. I believe that to be a decent human being is to do many good things with no ulterior motives, which should be true. But the problem is that much of the world is corrupted. I wish to make the world a better place too, even if I can only do so with my voice ,my words and my actions.

Aura-chan, I also am glad that you believe that people can still have a heart. You choose to be the light so others don't feel hurt by any actions you do. You understood that two wrongs don't make a right, but a right can undo some wrongs.

I think that humanity should and can be better than this.
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Reading your post the way I did makes it sound a lot better than how you probably intended it to read.

There is a problem with the scale of "None participation" =/= "Negative Participation", for the simple fact that it's loaded with an assumption, which is called "bill of pains" which is a rule/law/guideline, etc that presumes one guilty.

For example, a presumption of guilt is illegal, you have to be proven guilty, not innocent. You cannot presume guilt, because, well, if you do that, you create an impossibly tall list of problems we are not going to get into.



Magical-Soul! You devil! You let that guy get fired and now he's probably ruined! You monstah! You have 3 choices!

1. Save his job and his family! - Good!
2. Tell him a lie and get him in trouble - Bad!
3. Take absolutely no action whatsoever but enjoy the result - Bad!


As you can see here, there is only one "good" option for Social Justice Warriors, but the other two are both bad, despite them both being completely different. Which obviously lacks reason, math and logic. How could two different options both be bad? Because of the presumed guilt I mentioned earlier, "Bills of pains and penalty".

SJW believes that non participation is the same as bad participation, which is just baffling for the brighter side of civilization.

Their beliefs are strong enough for them to set ideals for themselves and for others. For example, death is emotionally a bad thing for people, worse than locking them up for awhile. The media and super heroes combined "death" with "dark" "evil" "bad" etcetera, negative connotations, so good guys on TV on don't kill. The TV shows and video games, etc. Painted the picture that "death" in itself is wrong and negative so of course, the mass majority might think the same.

Now let's talk about fate, shall we? Most people think their ideals are absolute, so definitively to them, being locked up is less evil than killing, for no other reason than the fact that super heroes don't kill. So whether or not the victim thinks being locked is worse is not up for discussion, because the Social Justice Warriors have already decided what's what for you. They already built up this reality and you are in it whether you like it or not.

It goes like this to our every men and women:

Community Service > Paying Fines > Being severely beaten > Being locked up > Death/Rape > Death/Rape.

The last two are very interchangeable for most SJWs, it really depends on the country and age. I would rather be killed than locked up for the rest of my life. Being in a cage for the next 60 years. So this just shows that your average armchair dude/gal is probably less than experienced than your average non-armchair dude/gal.


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