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Posted 10/8/14

Real_Folk_Blues wrote:

I stopped Tokyo Ghouls after episode 2 and I'm doing the same for Terraformars as of right now. Watched episode 2 a little while ago and got pissed.


I don't blame you for dropping Terraformars, all the action is covered up with black screens.

However

I think you should still watch Tokyo Ghoul.

The censorship is still annoying but it's not as bad as Terraformars....
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Posted 10/8/14
Gentleman.

You do realize that the broadcast version of Rosario + Vampire had a giant ass bear face as censorship right?

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Imocho's heartlock and dating sim screens were another obnoxious censorship technique that I hadn't seen mentioned oh and I almost forgot they completely removed the girls body from one scene.

Yeah censorship blows, I wanted to enjoy Terraformars also but by the end of episode two I was just done...
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Posted 10/8/14

Real_Folk_Blues wrote:

Politics....ugh. Thanks for the info though Cellory! I should have known it was all a racket to rake in more cash on their end. I feel bad now for breaking CR's balls...LOL


What luxury is not a racket to make more cash? In the end the Animators and authors all want and need to get paid.

One other thought though, if it helps. Anime in Japan is not there as a work of art. And rarely is it there for the fans. In Japan, the primary purpose of Anime is the same as the Superbowl in the US, to sell commercial airtime. In some cases it is also to boost sales of the Manga or Visual Novel or Game. But in almost all cases, Anime is not made or broadcast for it's own sake. It is there to sell commercial time or some other product. So recouping costs generally has to come from the sale of physical media and licensed products. And for every show that is a success, there will be shows that barely break even, or not at all. The broadcasting world is a very cut throat one. So licensing and physical media sales are a very important income stream to make a show viable or not.

Now it can get far more complex than even that depending on who the producers are. This is a simplified model really.

The Satellite companies are a bit different. One reason they tend to broadcast uncensored shows. Because in those cases Anime commissioned by those channels are the reason for airing them. To draw in viewers and thus paid subscribers. Just like HBO survives based on it's shows and thus the number of people who pay for the service.

So if it helps it is not just a bloodthirsty money grab. There are actual financial reasons behind it all, even if some of them do not make a lot of sense from our point of view.

Objectively, this is somewhat similar to the US Broadcast model as well. The Daytime staple, Soap Operas, are called this because most were commissioned by a soap or other product company to advertise their product. These shows were cheap to produce so they fit in the advertising budget for the company. The show was then pitched to a Broadcast studio like CBS who then got to decide if they felt it would draw enough of an audience to allow them to charge enough for commercials. Thus shows that drew more people got continued and shows that did not got dropped in favor of shows that might do better. From the Broadcast Studio perspective though, it was all about commercial airtime, not the show itself. Because they did not pay for the show generally, they simply were broadcasting it for whatever company did produce it.

It is, again, far more complex today in the US, just like in Japan. With studio's now sharing often part or all of the production costs. But ultimately to a broadcast station the objective is always the same. To draw in more people to watch something so as to be able to charge more for commercial airtime and thus make a profit. The product does not matter so much as whether they are getting the maximum profit for the airtime. And since the producers (if they are not the studio themselves) usually have to recoup the costs of producing the show in the first place through other means. In the case of those Soaps, the show itself was advertising and thus generally a cost recouper in and of itself. But for a show like Star Trek The Next Generation, Paramount would need to recoup the costs of the show via DVD sales and merchandising. Because whoever broadcast the show was not paying for it. Often a producing studio would need to pay additional to the broadcasting channel to air it.

So physical media sales in the case of Anime can be a very important income stream. Sometimes, perhaps often, the make or break point for a show and studio. Too many shows that fail to recoup their costs and they may go the way of Studio Ghibli.
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Posted 10/8/14 , edited 10/8/14

AnimeKami wrote:
Gentleman.

You do realize that the broadcast version of Rosario + Vampire had a giant ass bear face as censorship right?


I buy the DVD's so that I do not have to remember there is a censored version.
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Posted 10/8/14

AnimeKami wrote:

Gentleman.

You do realize that the broadcast version of Rosario + Vampire had a giant ass bear face as censorship right?



lol It did?!

I never knew that.

I kinda want to see it now.....
Posted 10/9/14
If anyone's seen the old original anime of sailor moon, you know all about censorship. Zoicite being made a female, Uranus and Neptune's lesbianism taken out, etc. They didn't think westerners could handle it at the time, they were probably right...
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Posted 10/9/14

Real_Folk_Blues wrote:

Wow. You mean even the folks in Japan have to deal with this shit? Just wow...I'm speechless.

Unless they shell out for AT-X (which costs about 3 times a monthly sub to CR), yes. Even it doesn't have all new anime uncensored.

If you see uncensored fansubs of a show while it is airing in Japan (vs. after the discs are released), that is where they are coming from. It also makes the "people in Japan get to see it for free" excuse of fansubs a lie for those shows.

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Hi,

This topic has been covered multiple times, and I am closing this as both a duplicate and a personal thread.

-Makoto
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