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Should you have to take down your flag that's on your property because someone is offended by it? And when did the american flag become an offense in the United States?
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I'm not sure I understand the source of the offense. Was it the flag itself, or did you violate the flag code somehow? There's a particular way to fly it, it can't be exposed to the elements, all that stuff. We haven't really been given any details apart from the flag was on your property, someone was offended upon seeing it, and they demanded you take it down.
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I'm not sure I understand the source of the offense. Was it the flag itself, or did you violate the flag code somehow? There's a particular way to fly it, it can't be exposed to the elements, all that stuff. We haven't really been given any details apart from the flag was on your property, someone was offended upon seeing it, and they demanded you take it down.


It wasn't me,I heard about this story in the news. An older lady that had police called on her because she had an american flag on her property. The police told her she had to take he flag down because it offended someone in the neighborhood. She assumed it was a neighbor. The police didn't tell her who was complaining about it. I can try to find the link to it, if you like?

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[It wasn't me,I heard about this story in the news. An older lady that had police called on her because she had an american flag on her property. The police told her she had to take he flag down because it offended someone in the neighborhood. She assumed it was a neighbor. The police didn't tell her who was complaining about it. I can try to find the link to it, if you like?


A link would be very helpful, because that sounds odd.
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To tell you the truth, people take flags way too seriously...
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Posted 10/9/14

BlueOni wrote:


Leechan69 wrote:

[It wasn't me,I heard about this story in the news. An older lady that had police called on her because she had an american flag on her property. The police told her she had to take he flag down because it offended someone in the neighborhood. She assumed it was a neighbor. The police didn't tell her who was complaining about it. I can try to find the link to it, if you like?


A link would be very helpful, because that sounds odd.


I had saw the story in this video. You don't have to watch the whole video but if you skip to 3:00 , you'll see what I'm talking about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz5DSHFLhNk&list=UUx11wx9-IT2jV7vha6y-MhQ
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I had saw the story in this video. You don't have to watch the whole video but if you skip to 3:00 , you'll see what I'm talking about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz5DSHFLhNk&list=UUx11wx9-IT2jV7vha6y-MhQ


Do you have a source which doesn't accuse the President of being the Devil in its title?
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Posted 10/9/14

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Leechan69 wrote:

I had saw the story in this video. You don't have to watch the whole video but if you skip to 3:00 , you'll see what I'm talking about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz5DSHFLhNk&list=UUx11wx9-IT2jV7vha6y-MhQ


Do you have a source which doesn't accuse the President of being the Devil in its title?


Lol no thats all I got, I couldnt find any other video with just that one story

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Lol no thats all I got, I couldnt find any other video with just that one story


Well, then in principle I agree that people shouldn't be compelled to take down a US flag (or any other flag, for that matter) which is being flown on their own private property simply because someone else finds its display offensive. With that in mind, I think it's appropriate to ask your neighbors to stick to the standards outlined in the US flag code out of respect to both the symbol itself and to the veterans who have fought under it.
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Depends.. is the person offended because the flag, or the handling of it goes against the Flag Code, which people violate all the time while talking up how much they love the flag?

On a more serious note.. a youtube video isn't very convincing about the story. Sounds like an issue for Snopes, perhaps?
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Leechan69 wrote:

Lol no thats all I got, I couldnt find any other video with just that one story


Well, then in principle I agree that people shouldn't be compelled to take down a US flag (or any other flag, for that matter) which is being flown on their own private property simply because someone else finds its display offensive. With that in mind, I think it's appropriate to ask your neighbors to stick to the standards outlined in the US flag code out of respect to both the symbol itself and to the veterans who have fought under it.


I agree. The american flag represents the country, I don't which part it offends people.
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I agree. The american flag represents the country, I don't which part it offends people.


Well, it's not as if there aren't groups for which dislike of the symbol isn't at least somewhat understandable. Native Americans, for instance. Still, if it's your flag, on your property, and it's flown correctly, there is no discussion to be had.
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Depends.. is the person offended because the flag, or the handling of it goes against the Flag Code, which people violate all the time while talking up how much they love the flag?

On a more serious note.. a youtube video isn't very convincing about the story. Sounds like an issue for Snopes, perhaps?


I gave the link to show where I saw the news story. if you click on it you can watch it at 3:00 you'll see it for yourself.
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Posted 10/9/14 , edited 10/9/14
Does the person live in an area that is part of a Home Owners Association? Some of them have rules where certain things cannot be placed on your property, especially front lawn. There was a story a while back about a homeowner who had his HOA threatening him to take down his US flag because is violated their rules.

This is a video of what happened.
I don't like FOX at all but... oh well. Video is from 2013
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/29/marine-veteran-ordered-to-remove-american-flag-from-his-yard/


There are specific ways to fly the US flag, but that is to be respectful. If you do it wrong you won't and can't be arrested for it.


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Posted 10/9/14 , edited 10/9/14
This shouldn't even be an issue, it's private property. I raise a foreign flag outside and no one gives a damn. But then again I'd have to agree with the person who wanted the flag removed on the personal level because I'm an anti-patriot.
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