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Posted 10/20/14

FlyinDumpling wrote:

I wonder how the Natives feel about the American Flag.

I personally have a problem with the imperial Japanese flag. Of course, all these people wearing t-shits with the rising sun on it have no idea what it means. Still, don't be that tourist.


There's something to be gained from this: you should be free to fly whatever flag you want, but you should be aware of the present meaning and history of whatever flag you choose to fly and practice some situational awareness with respect to that meaning and history. If you have Korean, Chinese, or Filipino neighbors, flying the sun and rays in your yard (while your right) is probably in bad taste and unlikely to win you many friends. The fact that you can do something, and further that you ought to be able to do it if you so desire, doesn't necessarily mean you should.
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Posted 10/20/14

FlyinDumpling wrote:

I wonder how the Natives feel about the American Flag.


The first thing that came across my mind when I read this thread.
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Posted 10/21/14

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When you examine why someone is offended, you should pay attention to whether their concept of offensiveness is REASONABLE. Imagine you going into an auditorium full of 1000 people and presenting the facts. If only like.....10 people vote that it is offensive, it is probably not reasonable. Beside, you are allowed to do as you like to your property as long as you're not ruining the image of your neighborhood or creating potential dangers for the people who might happen by.


Reasonable is a subjective word, good luck getting people to agree on it.
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Posted 10/21/14

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FlyinDumpling wrote:

I wonder how the Natives feel about the American Flag.


The first thing that came across my mind when I read this thread.


Don't know. Another example I absolutely despise the Confederate Flag, however while I support one's right to fly the flag of traitors in the name of preserving the 1st amendment, just don't expect me to have much respect for you.
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Don't know. Another example I absolutely despise the Confederate Flag, however while I support one's right to fly the flag of traitors in the name of preserving the 1st amendment, just don't expect me to have much respect for you.


Good point. Most people view it as a simple representation of the 13 colonies (the way I used to ignorantly see it as..) But that's like saying the US flag today just represents the 50 states. People flying these flags need to understand that it has different meanings for different people, and the history behind all that.

I mean, to me, if you're a true "patriot" you should do a bit of research on this subject before displaying a big fat flag on your front porch.
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Posted 10/22/14

kevz_210 wrote:


Morbidhanson wrote:

When you examine why someone is offended, you should pay attention to whether their concept of offensiveness is REASONABLE. Imagine you going into an auditorium full of 1000 people and presenting the facts. If only like.....10 people vote that it is offensive, it is probably not reasonable. Beside, you are allowed to do as you like to your property as long as you're not ruining the image of your neighborhood or creating potential dangers for the people who might happen by.


Reasonable is a subjective word, good luck getting people to agree on it.


In law, reasonable is what the average person considers reasonable. Incredibly sensible people are unlikely to sway a verdict in a case that hinges upon reasonableness.
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FlyinDumpling wrote:

I wonder how the Natives feel about the American Flag.

I personally have a problem with the imperial Japanese flag. Of course, all these people wearing t-shits with the rising sun on it have no idea what it means. Still, don't be that tourist.
There's something to be gained from this: you should be free to fly whatever flag you want, but you should be aware of the present meaning and history of whatever flag you choose to fly and practice some situational awareness with respect to that meaning and history. If you have Korean, Chinese, or Filipino neighbors, flying the sun and rays in your yard (while your right) is probably in bad taste and unlikely to win you many friends. The fact that you can do something, and further that you ought to be able to do it if you so desire, doesn't necessarily mean you should.
Speaking of bad taste:

http://www.chinasmack.com/2014/pictures/chinese-man-with-imperial-japanese-rising-sun-t-shirt-attacked-taishan.html
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No how the fuck can you live in America and enjoy the freedoms and perks of this beautiful country of ours yet be offended by the flag. Just tell them this flags embodies all the people who died to protect and ensure the freedoms that you are enjoying. those men were heroes you should be ashamed. American Flag embodies the trials and tribulations we went trough as nation. It inspires hope,courage and commendatory ,pride at times of struggle

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